Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). Read warning in 1st post

20-04-2016 09:56PM

billyhead wrote: »

I will probably get slated here but is this just a case of McGregor winning a few fights in the UFC been hyped to the 90s making a fast buck based on this hype and getting out when his millions are made realizing that he is not as good as the hype makes him out to be and he would more then likely lose against Diaz again and a rematch with Also and the bandwagon would lose interest. Like what has he actually achieved to become so famous. He knows how to talk the talk but one lethal punch knocked Aldo out. If it went eh full distance or longer then it was he probably would have lost against him. He fought a bunch of nobodys to get to fight Aldo apart from Mendez who could easily have beaten him on the ground

Probably yes, considering the stupidity of your post. Even the script sounds childish "like" what has he actually achieved!! "eh" full distance. what are you tweeting from starbucks there with your skinny latte on the way!!

if mendeS with an S seeing you're such a big fan and all, could have easily beaten him on the ground, why in one of at least 4 takedowns did it not happen??

Can everyone on this thread agree this is one trolling post not to be taken seriously!!:cool:

eddie73 · 20-04-2016 10:00PM

Fromvert wrote: »

If he just wants a fast buck, why leave the $10/12m+ on the table by not fighting Diaz and Aldo. Because even if he lost to Diaz, he's still pulling a million plus PPV buys by rematching Aldo.

Oh yeah, Aldo lost the first striking exchange and ended up KO'd but if it went longer he 'probably' would of won.
Mendes could of easily beat him on the ground? He had two rounds to do it, if it would be easy he should got it done. He didn't and ended up turtled up waiting for the ref to stop it.

And then the he fought nobodies to get his shot.
Did Mendes (twice), Lamas, Korean Zombie, Hominick and Florian all have better wins than McGregor before they got a title shot against Aldo?

I would say ego. I dont think that he would particularly want to risk losing against a flurry of good opponents. There is no guarantee that he would have lost, or won for that mater. The difficulty McGregor faces or faced is, if you build yourself up to be a mega star and are found out once and then more than once, you start to look foolish. Retiring now would save him a lot of potential embarrassment.

I am starting to believe that he will be back for more. He cant just walk away from the sport the way he did, surely not?

rogieop · 20-04-2016 10:04PM

eddie73 wrote: »

I would say ego. I dont think that he would particularly want to risk losing against a flurry of good opponents. There is no guarantee that he would have lost, or won for that mater. The difficulty McGregor faces or faced is, if you build yourself up to be a mega star and are found out once and then more than once, you start to look foolish. Retiring now would save him a lot of potential embarrassment.

I am starting to believe that he will be back for more. He cant just walk away from the sport the way he did, surely not?

No mans ego is going to stop him from walking away from 12/15 million quid ffs. It has absolutely nothing to do with that. He hardballed the ufc. At the minute he has lost, so have the ufc. He's young, 200 isnt the be all and end all. He will be back.

Fromvert · 20-04-2016 10:08PM

eddie73 wrote: »

I would say ego. I dont think that he would particularly want to risk losing against a flurry of good opponents. There is no guarantee that he would have lost, or won for that mater. The difficulty McGregor faces or faced is, if you build yourself up to be a mega star and are found out once and then more than once, you start to look foolish. Retiring now would save him a lot of potential embarrassment.

I am starting to believe that he will be back for more. He cant just walk away from the sport the way he did, surely not?

Is his ego so big he would leave life changing money on the table? I don't think so. He's lost three times, is losing another one, two, three fights going to break him or is he going to enjoy a great life win or lose, with millions in the back and all done before he's 30.
He'll fight again, 100% he will.

He wants more money, that's what's stopping this. To negotiate well you have to willing to walk away from the table when you don't get what you want. It doesn't mean you won't go back to the table in the future though.

Frank Bullitt · 20-04-2016 10:11PM

Deadst4r wrote: »

I'm expecting an announcement.

Balls in his court, be interesting to see what he says. He doesn't usually stay quiet for long.

It really isn't. Without the UFC, where does he fight?

Den_M · 20-04-2016 10:14PM

rusty cole wrote: »

what are you tweeting from starbucks there with your skinny latte on the way!!

What has Starbucks or lattes (skinny or otherwise) got to do with the price of spuds, may I ask?

Deadst4r · 20-04-2016 10:16PM

Gintonious wrote: »

It really isn't. Without the UFC, where does he fight?

Not sure you understood what I was saying there.

Dana has left it for Conor to call him or at least clear up the 'retirement' announcement.

..So it's his turn to make an announcement

sonofenoch · 20-04-2016 10:25PM

billyhead wrote: »

I will probably get slated here but is this just a case of McGregor winning a few fights in the UFC been hyped to the 90s making a fast buck based on this hype and getting out when his millions are made realizing that he is not as good as the hype makes him out to be and he would more then likely lose against Diaz again and a rematch with Also and the bandwagon would lose interest. Like what has he actually achieved to become so famous. He knows how to talk the talk but one lethal punch knocked Aldo out. If it went eh full distance or longer then it was he probably would have lost against him. He fought a bunch of nobodys to get to fight Aldo apart from Mendez who could easily have beaten him on the ground

Nah he's just very very good...sure Diaz caught him good and won, but he delivered a beating to Diaz for most all that 1st round like he's never had in all his near approaching 30 fights, in an experimental fight

Call Me Jimmy · 20-04-2016 10:29PM

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rossi. · 20-04-2016 10:36PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Nah he's just very very good...sure Diaz caught him good and won, but he delivered a beating to Diaz for most all that 1st round like he's never had in all his near approaching 30 fights, in an experimental fight

had to delurk to laugh at this.
With ten days notice, diaz took his time, got cut(as usual), kept coming forward unfazed, and bet mcgregor at his own game.

cyfac · 20-04-2016 10:36PM

Check out zach arnolds piece over at www.fightopinion.com nails this story anyone who can remember Randy Couture trying to fight Fedor when afflicion was around will understand

eddie73 · 20-04-2016 10:39PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Nah he's just very very good...sure Diaz caught him good and won, but he delivered a beating to Diaz for most all that 1st round like he's never had in all his near approaching 30 fights, in an experimental fight

No he didnt. Dos Anjos hammered Diaz in a 3 round fight at the end of 2014. There were a few others too. I think that while McGregor did give him a clipping in the 1st round you could forgive Diaz seeing as he was on his holidays when he got the call to fight 10 days later.

I also think that it is a fair yardstick to judge the moves and shapes that are now happening behind the scenes.

Is McGregor worth the money he is demanding on the back of this last fight?
Can he continue to beat people in the future? The lightweight division is absolutely full of top quality opponents now, most of whom would kill to fight Conor, because of the purse, and because of the 'ABU' factor that he has generated about himself.
Can Conor McGregor come back to the table and say ok to Dana White, and if so, could he expect new terms and conditions from the UFC?

eddie73 · 20-04-2016 10:42PM

I forgot to add, the ease at which Diaz took Conor out in the 2nd round. Listening to the audio of the Diaz corner in round 2 shows absolutely no surprise. It was no fluke.

Cathy.C · 20-04-2016 10:43PM

That_Guy wrote: »

Just thinking more on this situation.

Given the recent death of Carvalho and Conor being cage side watching it and being engulfed in the aftermath, it may be draining him mentally.

Yeah, that was my first thoughts last night also.

Cathy.C wrote: »

My call on this is that Conor was just in no damn mood nor frame of mind to go to Vegas and be 'Conor McGregor the trash talking UFC fighter' so close to Joao Carvalho's death. He has also just spent time in Portugal, where no doubt he had been meeting people on a daily basis who knew Joao and most likely wanted to (quite understandably) talk about him and just what his take was on what happened to him.

Then he leaves there and has Dana on the phone pumped about promoting UFC 200 and all that would entail. How could he in all fairness go to Vegas right now and sit there and trash talk back and fourth with Nate about burying one another, or whatever. Just think of those past UFC promos and press conferences and the sort of things there were saying and the energy that took. Your head has to be right for that kind of theatrics, which he would absolutely have needed to in order to do the rematch justice.

I do however now think there is a lot of posturing between the two of them (Conor and the UFC) given that Dana keeps dropping subtle, or maybe not so subtle, hints that Conor thought he ran the show somewhat and he wants to make it clear to him that he doesn't. Can't see Conor ever eating humble pie and so if there is some sort of change of heart from him, or u-turn as it were, I would still expect him to not meet all of what the UFC are demanding from him.

A compromise could be for him to do the more pressing promo stuff via video link perhaps and then show up for the rest of the press stuff and photo calls in May. Nate and Conor did simultaneous video-link interviews promoting the last fight and so it's something that both are open to, or were at least.

Frank Bullitt · 20-04-2016 10:52PM

Deadst4r wrote: »

Not sure you understood what I was saying there.

Dana has left it for Conor to call him or at least clear up the 'retirement' announcement.

..So it's his turn to make an announcement

Yes and no, Dana could equally just take the belt off him if he doesn't move fast.

Strazdas · 20-04-2016 10:53PM

degsie wrote: »

If he does retract his 'retirement' statement, who's going to believe anything this guy says in the future?

Wasn't an official statement or announcement though, more of an oblique Tweet.

nc6000 · 20-04-2016 10:55PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Wasn't an official statement or announcement though, more of an oblique Tweet.

Yep. +1

All he said was "I have decided to retire young" which doesn't exactly mean an awful lot.

I could say that myself but I'll still be in work tomorrow.

Wonzy · 20-04-2016 10:59PM

He started following stephanie, shane mcmahon and triple h on twitter today. Same money without the risk of life threatening injury. If he does do it would be crazy to see him in it. Like most wrestlers are three times his size

Deadst4r · 20-04-2016 11:00PM

Wonzy wrote: »

He started following stephanie, shane mcmahon and triple h on twitter today. Same money without the risk of life threatening injury. Bit stranger

He did that the day of wrestlemania, not today.

Wonzy · 20-04-2016 11:04PM

Deadst4r wrote: »

He did that the day of wrestlemania, not today.

Ah sorry

Deadst4r · 20-04-2016 11:05PM

Wonzy wrote: »

Ah sorry

All good, just clickbait websites looking hits.

shrewdness · 20-04-2016 11:07PM

Interesting negotiation tactics Chael would use:

https://twitter.com/sonnench/status/722907019632447488

14murphy · 20-04-2016 11:07PM

Im surprised Jose and Frankie have been so quiet about all of this.

Dtp1979 · 20-04-2016 11:15PM

14murphy wrote: »

Im surprised Jose and Frankie have been so quiet about all of this.

Probably relieved and hoping he dosent come back

shocksy · 20-04-2016 11:32PM

Tomorrow mornings front pages from the rags are laughable, they really haven't a clue. They are even suggesting that Conor is setting up his own Promotion company.

Cathy.C · 20-04-2016 11:33PM

Half expecting to the see the following in the papers tomorrow.

Deadst4r · 20-04-2016 11:38PM

http://www.tmz.com/2016/04/20/dana-white-conor-mcgregor-no-diva-ufc-he-hasnt-called-either/

rag, but what the hell.

shocksy · 20-04-2016 11:40PM

bajer101 · 20-04-2016 11:45PM

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Probably relieved and hoping he dosent come back

That's nonsense. They would both be hoping to fight him for a guaranteed big payday.

empacher · 20-04-2016 11:46PM

Wonzy wrote: »

He started following stephanie, shane mcmahon and triple h on twitter today. Same money without the risk of life threatening injury. If he does do it would be crazy to see him in it. Like most wrestlers are three times his size

Owen Hart? I'm not a wwe fan, but their entrainment wrestling isn't injury free.

Before he retired stone cold was wrestling knowing that one wrong move would paralyse or kill him.

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