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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

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  • #2192
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,312 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Mellor wrote: »
    :confused:

    They pulled Nick Diaz from his UFC137 fight with GSP for that exact reason.

    I thought Diaz just didn't show up on the day of the press conference. As in cameras, lights, action..oh wait where's Nick and not that he said days before that he wouldn't show up.


  • #2193
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »
    has to be trolling followed three major wwe celebrities straight after tweeting he retired

    Leverage.

    Dunno the specifics of his contract though and would he even be able to do it without UFC approval. He's bluffing but it'll be interesting to see will it pay off. The UFC look to be standing firm.


  • #2194
    newbbieb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭newbbieb


    Lukker- wrote: »
    Leverage.

    Dunno the specifics of his contract though and would he even be able to do it without UFC approval. He's bluffing but it'll be interesting to see will it pay off. The UFC look to be standing firm.

    Yeah whatever is going on behind the scenes i think the nature of Conors contract and how many fights he has left on it are pivotal to how this plays out imo.


  • #2195
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Ah shyte, thought he still fought. Still BS reason anyway.

    If you are not willing to do the promotional stuff then why should you be on the card?


  • #2196
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred





    Helwani reckons he didnt want to go over to vegas from Iceland promoting the fight and **** talking because he witnessed the Carvalho incident only recently.


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  • #2197
    Deadst4r
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Deadst4r


    Gamebred wrote: »



    Helwani reckons he didnt want to go over to vegas from Iceland promoting the fight and **** talking because he witnessed the Carvalho incident only recently.

    Around 11 minutes he says people close to Conor, who are usually quite open, are keeping their cards very close to their chest on this one but that the reoccurring theme in any of his conversations seems to be the death of the Portuguese fighter.


  • #2198
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    I don't think this has anything whatsoever to do with money, injuries, testing hot or anything like that.

    My call on this is that Conor was just in no damn mood nor frame of mind to go to Vegas and be 'Conor McGregor the trash talking UFC fighter' so close to Joao Carvalho's death. He has also just spent time in Portugal, where no doubt he had been meeting people on a daily basis who knew Joao and most likely wanted to (quite understandably) talk about him and just what his take was on what happened to him.

    Then he leaves there and has Dana on the phone pumped about promoting UFC 200 and all that would entail. How could he in all fairness go to Vegas right now and sit there and trash talk back and fourth with Nate about burying one another, or whatever. Just think of those past UFC promos and press conferences and the sort of things there were saying and the energy that took. Your head has to be right for that kind of theatrics, which he would absolutely have needed to in order to do the rematch justice.

    Edit: See other posts now saying as much also. Long thread.

    No reason Conor and Nate couldn't have sat out this stage of promotions. Dana should have showed some cop on. Some things are more important than money. Lots of time between now and July 9th. Anyway, what's done is done. Shame. Was looking forward to this fight and all.


  • #2199
    Deadst4r
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Deadst4r


    Cathy.C wrote: »
    I don't think this has anything whatsoever to do with money, injuries, testing hot or anything like that.

    My call on this is that Conor was just in no damn mood nor frame of mind to go to Vegas and be 'Conor McGregor the trash talking UFC fighter' so close to Joao Carvalho's death. He has also just spent time in Portugal, where no doubt he had been meeting people on a daily basis who knew Joao and most likely wanted to (quite understandably) talk about him and just what his take was on what happened to him.

    Then he leaves there and has Dana on the phone pumped about promoting UFC 200 and all that would entail. How could he in all fairness go to Vegas right now and sit there and trash talk back and fourth with Nate about burying one another, or whatever. Just think of those past UFC promos and press conferences and the sort of things there were saying and the energy that took. Your head has to be right for that kind of theatrics, which he would absolutely have needed to in order to do the rematch justice.

    Edit: See other posts now saying as much also.

    No reason Conor and Nate couldn't have sat out this stage of promotions. Dana should have showed some cop on. Some things are more important than money. Lots of time between now and July 9th. Anyway, what's done is done. Shame. Was looking forward to this fight and all.

    I feel like they could have let him sit this one out, but Dana worded it in a way that made it seem like he wasn't going to attend any of the promos.

    Then again UFC are trying to look good in all of this.

    Looks like he was taking this camp very seriously if that is the real reason for him not flying out.


  • #2200
    Deadst4r
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Deadst4r


    http://uk.ufc.com/news/McGregor-Pulled-from-UFC-200

    Official statement is saying he refused to attend multiple press conferences.

    But he probably would have been doing a million press related things on this trip, so that doesn't really extend beyond this weekend I guess.


  • #2201
    CatFromHue
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    Deadst4r wrote: »
    http://uk.ufc.com/news/McGregor-Pulled-from-UFC-200

    Official statement is saying he refused to attend multiple press conferences.

    But he probably would have been doing a million press related things on this trip, so that doesn't really extend beyond this weekend I guess.
    White revealed that the decision was made by the promotion after McGregor informed UFC officials that he would not participate in any promotional activities, including a commercial shoot and press conferences.

    Yup I don't think the passing of Joao has anything to do with this


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  • #2202
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    http://entimports.com/2016/04/conor-on-danas-statement-it-wasnt-just-a-presser-it-was-a-mini-world-tour-and-unrealistic/


  • #2203
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Yup I don't think the passing of Joao has anything to do with this

    But the point is that he wouldn't have been in the frame of mind for all that stuff after the past couple of weeks. Conor has always been up for promotional stuff, press conferences, photo shoots etc etc. He lives for it. Any of the episodes of Embedded, for example, that I have seen where it captured that side of things, he never came across as someone that that had no appetite for them. Now if this had been Nate Diaz saying that he didn't want to go through all that stuff this time around, then yeah I'd buy that but not Conor. He would have known when he signed the contracts that promo stuff was involved. Something has him wanting to avoid at least the initial stage of the promo stuff and I can't see what else that could be other than what has occurred over the past couple of weeks. Perhaps I'm wrong but what else could be the reason.


  • #2204
    Depp
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    Cathy.C wrote: »
    But the point is that he wouldn't have been in the frame of mind for all that stuff after the past couple of weeks. Conor has always been up for promotional stuff, press conferences, photo shoots etc etc. He lives for it. Any of the episodes of Embedded, for example, that I have seen where it captured that side of things, he never came across as someone that that had no appetite for them. Now if this had been Nate Diaz saying that he didn't want to go through all that stuff this time around, then yeah I'd buy that but not Conor. Something has him wanting to avoid at least the initial stage promo stuff and I can't see what else that could be other than what has occurred over the past couple of weeks.

    I dunno its probably on his mind but Id say its cause the tour pre aldo took a lot out of him and he doesnt wanna go through all that shit again


  • #2205
    Frank Bullitt
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    Until we hear Conor himself saying that the passing of Joao is directly related to this, then I think it is just clutching at straws.

    If he isn't happy with the press schedule, then that is fair enough. This is a landmark event for UFC though, so a big press event (and multiples of them) should have been expected or factored in. He gladly did it for the Aldo fight when it suited him, so why not for this?

    I am not attacking Conor, I am a big fan of his, I just think there is more at play here than we currently know. Next few days should be interesting. And I wouldn't be surprised if he is back on the card soon as well.


  • #2206
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,386 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Ah shyte, thought he still fought. Still BS reason anyway.

    They didn't fight until about 18months later.
    CatFromHue wrote: »
    I thought Diaz just didn't show up on the day of the press conference. As in cameras, lights, action..oh wait where's Nick and not that he said days before that he wouldn't show up.

    Nick was supposed to go to vegas, he didn't. Said he wasn't going it. Got pulled from the card.
    Conor is supposed to be in vegas now, said I'm not doing it. Got pulled from the card.


  • #2207
    Deadst4r
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Deadst4r


    Mellor wrote: »
    They didn't fight until about 18months later.



    Nick was supposed to go to vegas, he didn't. Said he wasn't going it. Got pulled from the card.
    Conor is supposed to be in vegas now, said I'm not doing it. Got pulled from the card.

    From what Ariel said, Nick was supposed to be there and Dana was actually taking phone calls during the conference in regards to Nicks whereabouts.


  • #2208
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    His a clip from the day Nick was pulled. Some interesting comments but seems to be a much different scenario to this one though.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuRMkNOFqLQ


  • #2209
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    If he has indeed fought for the last time, the memories of leaving the MGM after seeing him knock out Aldo in 13 seconds will last a lifetime. Thank you Conor


  • #2210
    Mellor
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    Deadst4r wrote: »
    From what Ariel said, Nick was supposed to be there and Dana was actually taking phone calls during the conference in regards to Nicks whereabouts.

    I'm aware that there are some small differences. Nick lines the nest state over, not a 8 hour flight away. Nick said he was en route, Conor are just said no. but I guarantee Conor had some advance notice of this and didn't just say no today.

    There's some slight differences between the two situations. But saying it's much different scenario is silly. They are the two most similar scenarios to each other in the UFC's entire history


  • #2211
    Deadst4r
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Deadst4r


    Mellor wrote: »
    I'm aware that there are some small differences. Nick lines the nest state over, not a 8 hour flight away. Nick said he was en route, Conor are just said no. but I guarantee Conor had some advance notice of this and didn't just say no today.

    There's some slight differences between the two situations. But saying it's much different scenario is silly. They are the two most similar scenarios to each other in the UFC's entire history

    Definitely similar in the grand scheme, that's for sure.


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  • #2212
    killwill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,785 ✭✭✭killwill


    Apprently the most retweeted athlete up until yesterday was Kobe Bryant with his retirement message.
    Conor McGregor's tweet is now the most retweeted from an athlete.
    Call me crazy but there is no such thing as bad publicity!


  • #2213
    jones 19
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    TimRiggins wrote: »
    If he has indeed fought for the last time, the memories of leaving the MGM after seeing him knock out Aldo in 13 seconds will last a lifetime. Thank you Conor
    Connor tapping out to Diaz is my favorite memory of his last moments as a fighter. I'm disappointed as I wanted to see a 4month camp Diaz destroy this langball again. He has not turned up to the press conferences as he knows he'll get pulled from the fight so he won't have to fight Diaz again. Very disappointed.


  • #2214
    Depp
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    jones 19 wrote: »
    Connor tapping out to Diaz is my favorite memory of his last moments as a fighter. I'm disappointed as I wanted to see a 4month camp Diaz destroy this langball again. He has not turned up to the press conferences as he knows he'll get pulled from the fight so he won't have to fight Diaz again. Very disappointed.

    fair play tya


  • #2215
    Tinie
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    jones 19 wrote: »
    Connor tapping out to Diaz is my favorite memory of his last moments as a fighter. I'm disappointed as I wanted to see a 4month camp Diaz destroy this langball again. He has not turned up to the press conferences as he knows he'll get pulled from the fight so he won't have to fight Diaz again. Very disappointed.

    Bless your little heart


  • #2216
    [Deleted User]
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    I suppose that the fanboys in here would never consider that he may have realised that Diaz would likely beat him again and therefore further eroding his Ufc capital so he came up with this as a chicken out method to come back for the Edgar Aldo winner.


  • #2217
    ASOT
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    glasso wrote: »
    I suppose that the fanboys in here would never consider that he may have realised that Diaz would likely beat him again and therefore further eroding his Ufc capital so he came up with this as a chicken out method to come back for the Edgar Aldo winner.

    Even if he lost to Diaz again he would still have the fight with the Aldo Edgar winner so your point is pretty redundant.


  • #2218
    [Deleted User]
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    ASOT wrote: »
    Even if he lost to Diaz again he would still have the fight with the Aldo Edgar winner so your point is pretty redundant.

    But he would have two losses in a row and less credibility so it's not a redundant point.

    Mcgregor pulled out / chickened out of this fight by his actions.


  • #2219
    ASOT
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    glasso wrote: »
    But he would have two losses in a row and less credibility so it's not a redundant point.

    Mcgregor pulled out / chickened out of this fight by his actions.

    Two losses at 170, he wouldn't lose much credibility at all he would still be a massive draw regardless so it is a redundant point.

    Why would a professional fighter chicken out of a fight, do you know how ridiculous that sounds ?


  • #2220
    [Deleted User]
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    ASOT wrote: »
    Two losses at 170, he wouldn't lose much credibility at all he would still be a massive draw regardless so it is a redundant point.

    Why would a professional fighter chicken out of a fight, do you know how ridiculous that sounds ?

    He did so by not fulfilling the promotional activities. Its the same thing.

    Your posts are ridiculous and redundant


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  • #2221
    Tinie
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    glasso wrote: »
    He did so by not fulfilling the promotional activities. Its the same thing.

    Your posts are ridiculous and redundant

    Yes because Dana white has never spun something or strayed from the truth to make himself look like the good guy.


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