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All households must be registered with a licensed waste collector by July 1

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    #242
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I'm still confused. So you pay a private company down there to lift your household rubbish? In Northern Ireland we pay rates which includes the collection of our household waste in wheelie bins of 3 colours every fortnight. In the meantime we can take out rubbish to council deposit dumps from everything to fridges to TVs to paint etc as long as it's single household waste (all for free btw as included in our rates) just not business or builders waste etc.

    It seems weird that the republic wouldn't have a similar system.

    Household rubbish disposal was privatised around 12 years ago. Before that it was local county councils who were responsible for this. Wheelie bins are used to hold different wastes although not all the disposal companies have the exact same system. The new regulations are supposed to bring them all into line asfaik.


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    #243
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    gozunda wrote: »
    Household rubbish disposal was privatised around 12 years ago. Before that it was local county councils who were responsible for this. Wheelie bins are used to hold different wastes although not all the disposal companies have the exact same system. The new regulations are supposed to bring them all into line asfaik.

    Ok. How much do the private companies charge roughly to collect household waste, recyclables and compost waste?


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    #244
    prodsc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭prodsc


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Ok. How much do the private companies charge roughly to collect household waste, recyclables and compost waste?

    I use 'pay as you go' with Barna

    Service charge €8.50 per month
    Waste 250l €10 per lift plus 25c per kg over 35kg
    Recycle 250l €4 per lift
    Compost 25l €3 per lift

    I find it suits better than current charge of €175 for 6 months fortnightly lift.


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    #245
    cocoman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭cocoman


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I'm still confused. So you pay a private company down there to lift your household rubbish? In Northern Ireland we pay rates which includes the collection of our household waste in wheelie bins of 3 colours every fortnight. In the meantime we can take out rubbish to council deposit dumps from everything to fridges to TVs to paint etc as long as it's single household waste (all for free btw as included in our rates) just not business or builders waste etc.

    It seems weird that the republic wouldn't have a similar system.

    We currently pay an annual flat rate of €350 for household waste collection. This pricing structure will change in July.

    How much do you pay in rates?
    What do you get for it and what happens if people don't pay their rates bill?


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    #246
    StanleyOllie
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭StanleyOllie


    Households dont pay rates. We pay a property tax... average would be about E450... private bin payment... supposed water charge. Lots of different taxes but not a yearly household rate payment


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    #247
    cocoman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭cocoman


    StanleyOllie wrote: »
    Households dont pay rates. We pay a property tax... average would be about E450... private bin payment... supposed water charge. Lots of different taxes but not a yearly household rate payment

    I was quoting timthumbni post above where he refers to paying rates in NI.


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    #248
    cbyrd
    Registered Users Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cbyrd


    cocoman wrote:
    How much do you pay in rates? What do you get for it and what happens if people don't pay their rates bill?

    Fianna Fail abolished Domestic rates here in the early 80's. It was almost hailed as a miracle that water was free. It was a while before people realised that the taxes were just levied elsewhere. Now we have private waste collection and a private water company.

    Business is charged rates which covers the maintenance of footpaths and upkeep of civic areas in towns . There's a separate water rates charged too, that was always payable by businesses.
    Separate charges are levied to businesses for Christmas lights and some chambers of commerce will ask for 'donations' towards st Patrick's day.
    Most towns now have paid parking which covers additional costs that the local authority can't get from government funding.
    It's a local tax really.


    Burning rubbish was a popular way for rural people to get rid of rubbish. To say people don't still do it is naive, but for those who stopped doing it outdoors, I know plenty of people who burn stuff in their fires ... Toxins still go into the air but now it's not illegal ..


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    #249
    cocoman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭cocoman


    cbyrd wrote: »
    Fianna Fail abolished Domestic rates here in the early 80's. It was almost hailed as a miracle that water was free. It was a while before people realised that the taxes were just levied elsewhere. Now we have private waste collection and a private water company.

    Business is charged rates which covers the maintenance of footpaths and upkeep of civic areas in towns . There's a separate water rates charged too, that was always payable by businesses.
    Separate charges are levied to businesses for Christmas lights and some chambers of commerce will ask for 'donations' towards st Patrick's day.
    Most towns now have paid parking which covers additional costs that the local authority can't get from government funding.
    It's a local tax really.


    Burning rubbish was a popular way for rural people to get rid of rubbish. To say people don't still do it is naive, but for those who stopped doing it outdoors, I know plenty of people who burn stuff in their fires ... Toxins still go into the air but now it's not illegal ..


    I was quoting timthumbni post above where he refers to paying rates in NI.


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    #250
    George Michael
    Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭George Michael


    what if you use big bin wherein you bring the waste to the bin yourself?


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    #251
    prodsc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭prodsc


    What rate do people pay at the moment for the various services waste providers offer?


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    #252
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,862 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    degsie wrote: »
    Think ppl are jumping the gun here. There NO mention of having to register with a waste collector anywhere. It just some other rules are coming into force in July '16:



    from here

    I did a search & couldn't find anything either.

    Where are people getting the having to register part from ?


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    #253
    Cleveland Hot Pocket
    Registered Users Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    Probably as enforceable as the TV license tbh


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    #254
    joeysoap
    Registered Users Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Ok. How much do the private companies charge roughly to collect household waste, recyclables and compost waste?

    Oxygen (Dundalk) €84.50 per quarter for 3 bins. No weight nonsense. One green per fortnight, one brown ( foodstuffs) and one black (rubbish) on alternative fortnights. Rival company started up, I phoned oxygen ang got it down to €75 a quarter. Bin companies have to get € xx per year to make it pay, so if the new pay by weight doesn't pay (ie users use the system to their best ability to save money) expect rates to rise until the companies are making the profits they expect.


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    #255
    cocoman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭cocoman


    joeysoap wrote: »
    Oxygen (Dundalk) €84.50 per quarter for 3 bins. No weight nonsense. One green per fortnight, one brown ( foodstuffs) and one black (rubbish) on alternative fortnights. Rival company started up, I phoned oxygen ang got it down to €75 a quarter. Bin companies have to get € xx per year to make it pay, so if the new pay by weight doesn't pay (ie users use the system to their best ability to save money) expect rates to rise until the companies are making the profits they expect.

    If people reduce the amount of general waste they put in the black bin, by ensuring everything recyclable goes into the green bin, then the collectors running costs will also reduce because they will have less going to landfill or incinerators. They will also see an increase in the recyclables they receive which they in turn sell on.


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    #256
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    cocoman wrote: »
    We currently pay an annual flat rate of €350 for household waste collection. This pricing structure will change in July.

    How much do you pay in rates?
    What do you get for it and what happens if people don't pay their rates bill?

    In my local council I think it's about 750 a year. That is split betweeen district rates (covers bins, recycling, waste disposal, leisure services, street cleaning and local parks. As I said there are local council waste depos where you can take your stuff after a major spring clean and dump old TVs, washing machines etc.

    The regional part then goes towards road, education and health.

    If you don't pay your bill then I assume you would be taken to court. They still will lift your bins though as there is no way the bin men would know or care if you have paid your rates bill.

    In the republic do some private companies actually weigh your bin as they lift it? That seems very weird. Would a lot of people not just dump their rubbish in public bins then in small bits and pieces?

    I always just assumed that the republic had the same system. Interesting.


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    #257
    joeysoap
    Registered Users Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    cocoman wrote: »
    If people reduce the amount of general waste they put in the black bin, by ensuring everything recyclable goes into the green bin, then the collectors running costs will also reduce because they will have less going to landfill or incinerators. They will also see an increase in the recyclables they receive which they in turn sell on.

    Maybe. But if I were betting my money would be on an increase in the rates for either (or perhaps both) the food bin or rubbish bin within a few years as users learn how to use the system - basically put as much as possible into the green bin, (which we should be doing now anyway) as much as possible into the food bin and as little as possible into the rubbish bin. Of course they just might increase the 'lift' charge as that is probably the easiest option. I suspect they will have to carry out a lot more random inspections of the bins as I also suspect that some people will put rubbish into the other bins and cover it. I won't, but some might, I hope I am wrong.


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    #258
    Niemoj
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Niemoj


    It costs me around €280 a year for one recycling bin and a normal refuse bin to be collected every 2 weeks (they alternate) here in Carlow!

    Paying by weight is going to make that €280 bill €2800! :rolleyes:


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    #259
    George Michael
    Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭George Michael


    i came up with a great way to get rid of food waste. i just leave it on the wall and the crows come and eat it all. they eat everything as well. lots of them too fighting over the food


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    #260
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    does this new law cover bungalows as well in rural areas??


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    #261
    danjo-xx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭danjo-xx


    Refuse collection should never have been privatised, it is never going to bring down prices not in a small country like ours, maybe in Dublin it might but not throughout the country.

    And as for noise pollution here in Waterford city we have about 4 or 5 companies collecting bins and there is never a day bar Sunday that a bin lorry is not doing its rounds.

    Give it back to the councils I say.


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    #262
    emo72
    Registered Users Posts: 6,248 ✭✭✭emo72


    danjo-xx wrote: »
    Refuse collection should never have been privatised, it is never going to bring down prices not in a small country like ours, maybe in Dublin it might but not throughout the country.

    And as for noise pollution here in Waterford city we have about 4 or 5 companies collecting bins and there is never a day bar Sunday that a bin lorry is not doing its rounds.

    Give it back to the councils I say.

    christ. thats the most sensible post on here.

    remember when we were told theat competition leads to better prices for consumers? HA.


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    #263
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Why don't you lot just include that in your rates? Forget about weighing yer fecking rubbish. What is the point of this when you seem to be fly tipping and complaining like feck?

    I still don't know how they charge you by weight? Do they weigh yer wheelie bin per household?


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    #264
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Why don't you lot just include that in your rates? Forget about weighing yer fecking rubbish. What is the point of this when you seem to be fly tipping and complaining like feck?

    I still don't know how they charge you by weight? Do they weigh yer wheelie bin per household?

    Householders don't pay rates. Various companies have different charging structures- some specify pay by weight -some charge flat rate. Changes in July are supposed to bring them into line asfaik

    Fly tipping happens everywhere - it's not just a south of the border thing* ;). But yeah people don't like when it happens either...

    *See:
    http://www.constructionireland.ie/construction-news/143653/antrim-railway-line-clean-up-to-tackle-fly-tipping


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    #265
    allthedoyles
    Registered Users Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Some of the packaging is unnecessary , and manufacturing companies should be made to reduce the amount of cardboard etc used.


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    #266
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    gozunda wrote: »
    Householders don't pay rates. Various companies have different charging structures- some specify pay by weight -some charge flat rate. Changes in July are supposed to bring them into line asfaik

    Fly tipping g happens everywhere - it's not just a south of the border thing* ;). But yeah people don't like when it happens either...

    *See:
    http://www.constructionireland.ie/construction-news/143653/antrim-railway-line-clean-up-to-tackle-fly-tipping

    I realise the craic. You pay less rates but then have to pay for your rubbish to be lifted. I don't like paying my rates but it's better than people weighing yer fecking bins. If I was charged by the weight of my bin then I would be dumping that crap all over the show. It's not a good system.


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    #267
    Gator88
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭Gator88


    Robxxx7 wrote: »
    What if people dispose of their household rubbish at one of the council waste transfer station ?

    Then you need to keep the receipts. Once you can prove you are using a licensed waste company Inc DCC you'll be fine


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    #268
    ja1986
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭ja1986


    My bins are 25 Euro a month for recycling ,compost and black bin. They rotate every week. I'm having a new baby next month so my black bin is going to cost me a fortune with nappies. Iv just come across this while researching . Would I be able to cancel my bins and use this service?

    http://www.corkcity.ie/services/environmentrecreation/wastemanagement/civicamenitycentre/


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    #269
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I realise the craic. You pay less rates but then have to pay for your rubbish to be lifted. I don't like paying my rates but it's better than people weighing yer fecking bins. If I was charged by the weight of my bin then I would be dumping that crap all over the show. It's not a good system.

    No Householders here *dont* pay any rates
    Unfortunately the system was privatised a number of years back so no choice available tbh.
    Most people just get on with it - doesn't mean they necessarily like it. As said there is fly tipping lots of places - it happened even before waste removal was privatised and still is happening.


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    #270
    cocoman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭cocoman


    ja1986 wrote: »
    My bins are 25 Euro a month for recycling ,compost and black bin. They rotate every week. I'm having a new baby next month so my black bin is going to cost me a fortune with nappies. Iv just come across this while researching . Would I be able to cancel my bins and use this service?

    http://www.corkcity.ie/services/environmentrecreation/wastemanagement/civicamenitycentre/

    You would be able to cancel but I don't think you would be saving a huge amount. The city council charge €5 per standard bag of refuse and you will have to bring it there yourself.
    Nappies will be a big problem. God help anyone with 2 in nappies :(


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    #271
    cocoman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭cocoman


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Why don't you lot just include that in your rates? Forget about weighing yer fecking rubbish. What is the point of this when you seem to be fly tipping and complaining like feck?

    I still don't know how they charge you by weight? Do they weigh yer wheelie bin per household?

    Each bin has or should have a chip attached. This contains the customers details. When the bin is lifted it is automatically weighed and the weights recorded electronically.


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