Billy Walsh quits ** SEE MOD WARNING #643 BEFORE POSTING

efb wrote: »

And he wanted that renegotiated in his new contract

You're feeding us nice tidbits here.

So, by renegotiated did he want the policy removed or altered?

walshb wrote: »

If Billy is acting/being represented on behalf of the IABA or doing an interview concering-representing the IABA then I don't find the policy at all odd.

Well you and Fergal Carruth are about the only people who don't. The Kieran Mulvey does, the Irish Sporting Council does, Billy Walsh does, the Minister for Sport does. And even then we're guessing with Carruth because he's gone into hiding and won't explain himself.

jd wrote: »

Mulvey is at Oireachtas Transport & Sports Committee hearing today. Named Christle and Carruth saying they have questions to answer! (according to Sean O'Rourke)

Good stuff. Might finally get some answers.

walshb wrote: »

So, 3 against 2.

Maths mighten be your strong point but it's 4 against 2 and does that mean by iaba rules that you're wrong??

walshb wrote: »

I don't know Fergal. Anyway, I am not sure how to interpret your post now.

Renegotiated.........needs elaboration.

My original point stands. The IABA IMO are right to want to sign off on anyone (working within their organisation) doing interviews concering the IABA and amateur boxing. It makes perfect sense. All above board and nothing hidden.

Life moves too fast to convene and consult a board on day to day matters. Boards should set broad strategic goals for an executive and review their performance on a quarterly or annual basis.

Executives should be entrusted with sufficient powers to carry out their jobs, if those powers are used in a way deemed inappropriate by the board they can take action after the fact, a board or committee cannot be expected to preemptively approve such trivial matters as interview requests.

hardCopy wrote: »

Life moves too fast to convene and consult a board on day to day matters. Boards should set broad strategic goals for an executive and review their performance on a quarterly or annual basis.

Executives should be entrusted with sufficient powers to carry out their jobs, if those powers are used in a way deemed inappropriate by the board they can take action after the fact, a board or committee cannot be expected to preemptively approve such trivial matters as interview requests.

Yes but then who's going to deal with all those "an bhfuil cead agam dul amach go dti on leithreas?" requests from the head coaches? I'm not sure such good sense has any place in this discussion

hardCopy wrote: »

Life moves too fast to convene and consult a board on day to day matters. Boards should set broad strategic goals for an executive and review their performance on a quarterly or annual basis.

Executives should be entrusted with sufficient powers to carry out their jobs, if those powers are used in a way deemed inappropriate by the board they can take action after the fact, a board or committee cannot be expected to preemptively approve such trivial matters as interview requests.

But Billy is not an executive. He needs permission to do interviews. What's the big deal, or harm with this? Surely this is not a damning reason for him quitting?

Maybe to you interviews concerning your organisation or business are trivial. That doesn't mean they are trivial to everyone else.

super_furry wrote: »

Are you sure you're not Michael Carruth?

What has this to do with my math?

Quote a post that you feel links me with Michael Carruth. Then I could answer it a little better.

efb wrote: »

4 no? Is 3 your final answer???

If we count the ISC as 1 and the IABA as 1 then it's 4-3. I counted Billy, Mulvey and Ring as 3 people for one side, and I counted myself and Fergal as 2 people for the other side. Simple arithmetic.

walshb wrote: »

But Billy is not an executive. He needs permission to do interviews. What's the big deal, or harm with this? Surely this is not a damning reason for him quitting?

Maybe to you interviews concerning your organisation or business are trivial. That doesn't mean they are trivial to everyone else.

Yes they are trivial, interview requests can come in overnight for an 8am radio slot, if the board of the IABA deem them to be a matter worthy of consultation then they need reform of their structures.

If they can't trust their Head of High Performance to run the place then they will struggle to find a replacement, Billy tolerated it, other world class coaches likely won't. The ISC can see this and are justifiably concerned. Even if Billy can't be retained, the next person in needs to be let run the unit.

The truth is there are no outstanding candidates. Zaur is a top class coach, a brilliant hands on man, and I doubt his English is a problem at this stage, but running the HP unit will deflect from what he is best at. Not an ideal scenario. John Conlan? I honestly don't know, seems to have done good work with his club and is a good coach, but a replacement for Walsh? Doubtful but need to know more. Pete Taylor? A non-starter for obvious reasons. Can't think of any other obvious candidates. I have respect for Michael Carruth and his work with disadvantaged kids but he can't be a serious candidate for this job.

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Of course it's not as if it matters that much anyway as Irish boxers, unlike their counterparts across the globe, pretty much train themselves

Didn't Barnes mention that Mickey Mouse could get medals out of the lads?

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Yes but Mickey Mouse doesn't come cheap and would probably insist on regular first class flight tickets from his home in Florida.

It was quite an isulting comment whether true or not true. And it wasn't a slip of the toungue either.