Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

ColeTrain · 18-09-2015 09:41PM

yop wrote: »

Not if he didn't get game time. Plenty of players over various codes haven't been utilised, in this case they got the best of DOC.

In fairness, he more than likely would have gotten game time whoever was in charge, he's a massive prospect.

Loafing Oaf · 18-09-2015 10:20PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

In fairness, he more than likely would have gotten game time whoever was in charge, he's a massive prospect.

And the brother of one of our top players, playing with a very successful club side, plus we're struggling for quality forwards...the expression 'no brainer' seems apt...

ultrapercy · 20-09-2015 11:37AM

Regarding the management situation the question I ask is how can joint managers work ? I mean what's the dynamic ? Take the Dublin game where Vaughan was started with a busted shoulder, suppose one of the pair is pushing for Vaughans inclusion because of his physicality and ball carrying etc but the other manager thinks he isn't fit, what's the tie breaker in a situation like that ? Then, human nature being what it is when Vaughan must be withdrawn does the man who made the original call delay the the substitution for fear of "I told you so". This is just an example but situations like this must arise all the time. I can't remember many if any joint managers being successful in any sportl because natural order means one person will always dominate and the decision making process is altered and slowed down.

Fr Tod Umptious · 20-09-2015 12:15PM

ultrapercy wrote: »

Regarding the management situation the question I ask is how can joint managers work ? I mean what's the dynamic ? Take the Dublin game where Vaughan was started with a busted shoulder, suppose one of the pair is pushing for Vaughans inclusion because of his physicality and ball carrying etc but the other manager thinks he isn't fit, what's the tie breaker in a situation like that ? Then, human nature being what it is when Vaughan must be withdrawn does the man who made the original call delay the the substitution for fear of "I told you so". This is just an example but situations like this must arise all the time. I can't remember many if any joint managers being successful in any sportl because natural order means one person will always dominate and the decision making process is altered and slowed down.

It's not as if Holmes and Connelly are two different managers that have been forced to be joint managers by the County Board.

They have worked this way before and have been successful.

To the best of my knowledge it was Connelly who wanted Homes on board as joint manager.

As I result I think the two have their own understanding of what each others role is and who makes what decisions and when.

Kalyke · 20-09-2015 05:38PM

Effing SICK of being close. SICK!!!

20-09-2015 05:43PM

Kalyke wrote: »

Effing SICK of being close. SICK!!!

I wouldn't be too sick. You can guarantee if we played Kerry today it would be dry and they would of done us again. I think when its our time it will be our time we just need the luck to turn and some day it will.

WesternZulu · 20-09-2015 07:03PM

Kalyke wrote: »

Effing SICK of being close. SICK!!!

Whoever has beaten Mayo in the last 5 years has gone onto win the All-Ireland...don't know how to feel about that!

Ascii · 20-09-2015 07:35PM

Who de we reckon will make the Sunday team game of the year from Mayo.
DOC definitely there. AOS probably should as well. Parson might just get a look in seeing how poor david moran and the Kerry midfield was today. He has had a right solid year in all our games. Keegan might get lucky and get the number 5 shirt but only barely.

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mass_debater · 20-09-2015 07:45PM

Ascii wrote: »

Who de we reckon will make the Sunday team game of the year from Mayo.
DOC definitely there. AOS probably should as well. Parson might just get a look in seeing how poor david moran and the Kerry midfield was today. He has had a right solid year in all our games. Keegan might get lucky and get the number 5 shirt but only barely.

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Hopefully Philly McMahon loses out because of his eye gouge today, disgusting
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=244420

homewardbound11 · 20-09-2015 07:45PM

Do t really care . Dublin are and have been the. Best team in the country for the past 3 years . deservedly won today . Kerry in fairness to them are the aristocratic s of picking up handy all Ireland's in the past 15 years admiringly mostly at Mayo s expense. Thank god today football won.
Well done Dublin .

And a small backdrop to a seriousayo fan . I was about to give in the towel this year and my son ( 7 years old) said that I'll be there to follow Mayo mext year .
Nearly brought a tear .
We'll be back .

Bret Hart · 20-09-2015 07:48PM

mass_debater wrote: »

Hopefully Philly McMahon loses out because of his eye gouge today, disgusting
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=244420

Nothing in that,his hand just ran across his face.

20-09-2015 07:50PM

WesternZulu wrote: »

Whoever has beaten Mayo in the last 5 years has gone onto win the All-Ireland...don't know how to feel about that!

2011 Kerry beat Mayo but lost the final to Dublin.

Ascii · 20-09-2015 07:57PM

Was it just me or does McMahon clearly attempt to gouge Donaghy in the eye. You see Kieran appeal to the ref and in the replay IMO you can clearly see Philly's left hand attempt to gouge donaghy. thoughts. Overall sickened to have put the all Ireland champs to the pin of the collar and lost on the first day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojvbfGbdSHk

Makes Brolly look like a right tit also. Kept preaching in the days after the mayo replay that "Fitzmaurice" was a master tactician and that he would never make the same mistakes that the Holmes/Connolly made....Fizt looked clueless on the line today as did Cian O niall.
So called master players - gooch, geaney and o donoughe were not at the races as all today. Bringing on the likes of Galvin reeked of desperation.

mass_debater · 20-09-2015 07:58PM

Bret Hart wrote: »

Nothing in that,his hand just ran across his face.

I've watched a few different clips and it definitely looks like he did

Bret Hart · 20-09-2015 08:03PM

mass_debater wrote: »

I've watched a few different clips and it definitely looks like he did

It'll be much clearer if they look at on The Sunday Game tonight. The footage is shot from a camera phone and it looks like no more then just his hand running over his face.

SeanJ09 · 20-09-2015 08:25PM

Lads what do we make of our chances next year? Hopefully the Dubs won't have the same hunger next year and that Kerry team might be potentially going through a period of transition. As we avoid both until the final next year we have a decent chance of making the final.

martyos121 · 20-09-2015 08:30PM

SeanJ09 wrote: »

Lads what do we make of our chances next year? Hopefully the Dubs won't have the same hunger next year and that Kerry team might be potentially going through a period of transition. As we avoid both until the final next year we have a decent chance of making the final.

That's only if we win the Connaught and Kerry and Dublin win their provincial finals. Dublin will surely do their part, Cork might fancy their chances against Kerry though, who as you said, are indeed going through a period of transition (which won't last many years unfortunately).

As for us, you'd expect us to manage 6 in a row, but Galway and Roscommon are only going to be stronger next year, and it's never a given that we'll beat Galway in the Connaught, especially looking at our match with them this year and how they went about it.

So if all the strongest teams win their provincials, it's our best shot at getting back to a final, and then it's down to not freezing on the day like has happened all too often in the last two decades.

RoyalCelt · 20-09-2015 09:02PM

Borders no.2 wrote: »

2011 Kerry beat Mayo but lost the final to Dublin.

Mayo have been second best for the last 4 years. Unbelievable how close they've come.

This year again. Dunlin on the ropes. 5 minutes of extra time and you didn't kill them when you had the chance.

Had you have done so, like you failed to do against kerry last year, you'd be all Ireland champions.

I really hope you do because 3 teams dominating would be better than 1 or 2.

Shurimgreat · 21-09-2015 12:32AM

Galway are not really that much stronger. Very average year for them again in 2015 despite some promising early signs in the league. I don't see them breaking their duck in Connacht. Roscommon might have a better chance but seem to burn themselves out in the League in recent years and have nothing left for the championship. Still don't think they are up to Mayo's standard. So it will be Mayo winning Connacht again next year, its as nailed on as Dublin winning Leinster at this stage. After that I think they are due to possibly meet Donegal in an AI semi final or possibly Tyrone. Mayo seem to have the Indian sign on Donegal in recent years but Tyrone are a different animal. But there is still a good chance of making it to next years AI final where probably Dublin awaits. As shown this year, Mayo can give Dublin more of a test than any other county in the championship on a consistent basis.

I just think however, Holmes and Connelly are not tactically in the same league as Jim Gavin and I don't see them learning from past mistakes.

So Dublin to win again next year.

Shurimgreat · 21-09-2015 12:34AM

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Mayo have been second best for the last 4 years. Unbelievable how close they've come.

This year again. Dunlin on the ropes. 5 minutes of extra time and you didn't kill them when you had the chance.

Had you have done so, like you failed to do against kerry last year, you'd be all Ireland champions.

I really hope you do because 3 teams dominating would be better than 1 or 2.

If Jim Gavin or Jim McGuinnes had this squad of Mayo players they'd have 2 or 3 All-Irelands out of them. That's been the main difference the last 4 or 5 years. Poor tactics from the Mayo sideline in big games. I don't see it changing next year.

MaroonAndGreen · 21-09-2015 07:08AM

martyos121 wrote:

As for us, you'd expect us to manage 6 in a row, but Galway and Roscommon are only going to be stronger next year, and it's never a given that we'll beat Galway in the Connaught, especially looking at our match with them this year and how they went about it.

We have home games versus Galway and Roscommon though I'm nearly certain, should win out again

padd b1975 · 21-09-2015 09:08AM

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

We have home games versus Galway and Roscommon though I'm nearly certain, should win out again

All home games except Leitrim and I think we're in Ruislip next year too.

For 2016, first of all let's secure Division 1 status for another year.
I'm not too bothered about league semi finals etc to be honest, but it's huge that we stay in the division with as little fuss as possible.

Championship, get another Connaught title on board and see how the land lies elsewhere going into August.

It would be nice to see a run at U21, it's well overdue.

At minor the only way is up after the shambles against Galway this year.

Green Peter · 21-09-2015 09:30AM

Rumour going round that Donie Buckley is going to Galway!

yop · 21-09-2015 09:58AM

Green Peter wrote: »

Rumour going round that Donie Buckley is going to Galway!

He agreed to stay with Mayo last week, unless that has changed.

TCDStudent1 · 21-09-2015 10:28AM

yop wrote: »

He agreed to stay with Mayo last week, unless that has changed.

Did he? Do you have a link?

I have heard that he is 100% leaving Mayo this year and the likelihood is that he will take a year out next year.

naughto · 21-09-2015 10:41AM

Plenty of rumours going around.
Heard Higgins handed connelly a letter of no confidence in the two managers and mc Guinness name mentioned

21-09-2015 10:45AM

naughto wrote: »

Plenty of rumours going around.
Heard Higgins handed connelly a letter of no confidence in the two managers and mc Guinness name mentioned

I'd love if it was true but i'd be very surprised. The chairman is not going to sack his own brother. One of the reasons why he shouldn't of got the job.

yop · 21-09-2015 10:51AM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Did he? Do you have a link?

I have heard that he is 100% leaving Mayo this year and the likelihood is that he will take a year out next year.

http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22748:donie-buckley-set-to-stay-on-with-mayo&catid=14&Itemid=100008

He was leaving us last year too also.

blinding · 21-09-2015 10:54AM

naughto wrote: »

Plenty of rumours going around.
Heard Higgins handed connelly a letter of no confidence in the two managers and mc Guinness name mentioned

Martin McGuinness has enough for doing at the moment;)

MaroonAndGreen · 21-09-2015 11:11AM

naughto wrote:

Plenty of rumours going around. Heard Higgins handed connelly a letter of no confidence in the two managers and mc Guinness name mentioned

I'm prepared to say that is 100% not true

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