Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

TCDStudent1

yop wrote: »

http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22748:donie-buckley-set-to-stay-on-with-mayo&catid=14&Itemid=100008

He was leaving us last year too also.

Thanks - I'd missed that story.

GBXI

davegrohl48 wrote: »

There is a very winnable Connaught title to be won with the U21 team. It would be the very minimum with the talent pool available
- Good set of backs from 2013 (contained Tyrone in a beaten midfield)
- Good set of forwards from 2014 (goal scorers)
- One of Mayos best half forwards Diarmuid OConnor
- Stephen Coen and Michael Hall senior experience
- Outright physicality in Diarmuid, Fionan Duffy and TJ Byrne
If the midfield mix can be got right, absolutely that team should be gunning for an All Ireland final appearance. The only issue is with midfield. Neither in 2013 or 2014 were the midfields dominant.

How could you forget Patrick Durcan??

Fr Tod Umptious

naughto wrote: »

Plenty of rumours going around.
Heard Higgins handed connelly a letter of no confidence in the two managers and mc Guinness name mentioned

The idea of Higgins, as a senior player and thus representative of the collective of the team, handing in a letter of no confidence has some credibility.

However the idea that the same letter mentions (Jim) McGuiness by name is a bit out there.

If the players have a coup d'etat in mind I'd hope their alternative is a bit closer to home and a bit more available.

It's not the GAA fourm on boards.ie that they are presenting their case to.

davegrohl48

GBXI wrote: »

How could you forget Patrick Durcan??

Patrick Durcan had his last year U21 this year. He's 20 but must turn 21 before January 1st.

seligehgit

SeanJ09 wrote: »

Lads what do we make of our chances next year? Hopefully the Dubs won't have the same hunger next year and that Kerry team might be potentially going through a period of transition. As we avoid both until the final next year we have a decent chance of making the final.

That stat re the All Ireland winners having beaten us for the last four years hurts so much.It's such a long road ahead but I think ourselves and Kerry have a lot of ground to make up on Dublin. We might make another final le cunamh De but I'd be inclined to back Dublin to retain their title unless we can find that little something extra, most especially up front. I'd love to be wrong.

naughto

davegrohl48 wrote: »

Patrick Durcan had his last year U21 this year. He's 20 but must turn 21 before January 1st.

He better have a word with his mother so

MaroonAndGreen

naughto wrote: »

He better have a word with his mother so

Hahaha

In himself, Diarmuid O'Connor and hopefully Coen we have 3 solid players coming through. Should be more from that minor All-Ireland winning team... apparently it went to the head of a few of them and some got a bit too fond of the beer, I won't mention names but we all know 1 or 2 high-profile cases from that team.

It's a pity.

paintitwhite

seligehgit wrote: »

That stat re the All Ireland winners having beaten us for the last four years hurts so much.It's such a long road ahead but I think ourselves and Kerry have a lot of ground to make up on Dublin. We might make another final le cunamh De but I'd be inclined to back Dublin to retain their title unless we can find that little something extra, most especially up front. I'd love to be wrong.

Another remarkable stat is that Kerry have won or been knocked out every year by the eventual winners since 2002 with the exception of 2010. In that year they bet eventual champions Cork in the Munster championship.

Shurimgreat

You can come up with any statistic you want, such as Mayo have been beaten by the winners or runners up in each of the last how many years etc etc.

All these stats tell me is Mayo capitulate when the pressure is really on. Give them a game where they are underdogs and they would probably win. Give them one where they are favourites, or where there is an AI final at stake and they collapse. Its no use winning Connacht year in year out without doing it in AI finals.

Mayo in the last five years have taken themselves to a new level but they have been stuck on that level and not pushed on.

Too many flat track bullies on the Mayo team who become invisible in AI finals. Harsh but true. There needs to be a clear out of the usual big game passengers.

Fr Tod Umptious

Shurimgreat wrote: »

You can come up with any statistic you want, such as Mayo have been beaten by the winners or runners up in each of the last how many years etc etc.

All these stats tell me is Mayo capitulate when the pressure is really on. Give them a game where they are underdogs and they would probably win. Give them one where they are favourites, or where there is an AI final at stake and they collapse. Its no use winning Connacht year in year out without doing it in AI finals.

Mayo in the last five years have taken themselves to a new level but they have been stuck on that level and not pushed on.

Too many flat track bullies on the Mayo team who become invisible in AI finals. Harsh but true. There needs to be a clear out of the usual big game passengers.

Your dead right.

Mayo have never out performed themselves in an All Ireland final.

They, or at least a number of important players, always seem to underperform.

Take the 2013 Clare hurlers in the replay for example, when have you ever seen Mayo do that in a final ?, never.

And all the best tactical management in the world can't fix that.

kippy

Shurimgreat wrote: »

You can come up with any statistic you want, such as Mayo have been beaten by the winners or runners up in each of the last how many years etc etc.

All these stats tell me is Mayo capitulate when the pressure is really on. Give them a game where they are underdogs and they would probably win. Give them one where they are favourites, or where there is an AI final at stake and they collapse. Its no use winning Connacht year in year out without doing it in AI finals.

Mayo in the last five years have taken themselves to a new level but they have been stuck on that level and not pushed on.

Too many flat track bullies on the Mayo team who become invisible in AI finals. Harsh but true. There needs to be a clear out of the usual big game passengers.

Been saying this with the past few years although perhaps not with the same spin. A few players absolutely have to move on at this stage, if only to give some hope and motivation to the younger lads yet to make a breakthrough at senior level.

Fr Tod Umptious

kippy wrote: »

Been saying this with the past few years although perhaps not with the same spin. A few players absolutely have to move on at this stage, if only to give some hope and motivation to the younger lads yet to make a breakthrough at senior level.

So who has to move on ?

Dillon is the only one that I can think of that would be retiring.

Andy Moran has another year as an impact sub.

We all though Cafferkey was to lose his place to Keane but in the end Keane got no game time after his cameo v Donegal, is he not good enough to take have a starting role ?

Cuniffe may be done so that is one place you may try out someone new, safe in the knowledge that Barrette is also an option.

Kevin McLaughlin's spot on the wing is the only other place that a replacement may be urgent.

It would be handy to be able to rest the likes of Higgins, Keegan, Vaughan, Boyle, the two O Sheas and Cillian for the league but you don't want to lose the Div 1 status either.

padd b1975

Dillon, Andy and possibly Conroy would be the three most likely to be considering their futures.

I suspect Dillon may retire.

One more lash from Andy as an impact sub.

As for Conroy, I find him a incredibly frustrating player to watch, he just hasn't produced it on a consistent basis. I suspect he may be one who just drifts away from the county scene.

Stoner

padd b1975 wrote:

As for Conroy, I find him a incredibly frustrating player to watch, he just hasn't produced it on a consistent basis. I suspect he may be one who just drifts away from the county scene.

I like him. He can be very accurate. I think Mayo are better with him than without. For example Johnny Cooper might get an all star this year, but Conroy does very well on him imo. I think he has a streak of quality . Getting it out of him consistently is another thing. But there are forwards on the panel that he's better than imho.

Fr Tod Umptious

Stoner wrote: »

I like him. He can be very accurate. I think Mayo are better with him than without. For example Johnny Cooper might get an all star this year, but Conroy does very well on him imo. I think he has a streak of quality . Getting it out of him consistently is another thing. But there are forwards on the panel that he's better than imho.

If fit I think you could get a good year out of Conroy as an impact sub.

seligehgit

I suspect more urgent surgery is needed on the team than the probable retirements of the lads on the periphery of the squad like Dillon... Andy Moran can still make an impact from the bench for another season.Michael Conroy has been a great servant of Mayo football but he's not the quality of substitute we will require to win an All Ireland.
For me new blood is required in 2 positions in the full back line,radical surgery is required there.
I believe 2 of our established half forwards require replacing.I'd love to know where we'll find the requisite superior players.

There are grounds for optimism with the likes of Patrick Durcan,David Drake,Evan Regan and hopefully Danny Kirby getting more game time.

davegrohl48

I dont think a lot of lads will leave the panel but a few are likely to end up outside the 26. The 19-23 year olds are starting to be the more dominant players in club football in particular in attack.
Michael Forde had 8 pts from play at midfield and a long kickpass assist for a goal.
Darren McHugh very good at full back for Hollymount in the Intermediate championship.
Duffy and Loftus are getting most of Crossmolinas scores. Kirby will be more ready for it. Have high hopes for Forde, of the big men he probably has the best shooting and passing. Versatile, could be tried centre back to add some height in that line. Midfield, half forward or a second twin tower.
I think looking at natural advantages we have a lot of tall players with decent football. We should use it. We had too many subs not over 6' for our last match. Height has always been an advantage in Gaelic football.

ColeTrain

padd b1975 wrote: »

Dillon, Andy and possibly Conroy would be the three most likely to be considering their futures.

I suspect Dillon may retire.

One more lash from Andy as an impact sub.

As for Conroy, I find him a incredibly frustrating player to watch, he just hasn't produced it on a consistent basis. I suspect he may be one who just drifts away from the county scene.

Was talking to him recently, said he's all set to go again next year. He was flying it until he got injured.

padd b1975

ColeTrain wrote: »

Was talking to him recently, said he's all set to go again next year. He was flying it until he got injured.

I only saw him live this year in the drawn league match against Donegal, his shot selection was deplorable on a day when every score was a struggle.

Painful to watch and not to be trusted at the highest level I'm afraid.

seligehgit

Anybody heading up to McHale Park this evening? Nice to see the lads back playing club football. I'll probably head up tomorrow too.Always great to see the 3 O Shea lads togging out, ditto Robbie Hennelly.Enda Varley will see some action,young Caolon Crowe....Big Barry,Patrick Durcan,Danny Kirby,Neil Douglas and the now forgotten Richie Feeney.

As regards tomorrow's action it will be great to run the rule over Cillian,Diarmuid,Jason Gibbons,Danny Geraghty, David Clarke,Ger Cafferkey,Alex Corduff,Kevin McLoughlin and most especially young Evan Regan.

Is it true that there was no arrangements made by the County Board for the team to stay in Dublin post the replay?Absolute disgrace if true,the lads spilled their guts on the football pitch and apparently a decision was made that that they'd return home to Mayo that same night post a contest that finished at 7 in the evening.

Quite bizarre but I observed a not to be named Mayo player getting on the Maynooth inter rail train at 8 with his gear,couldn't get my head around this.Not too sure if he'd even have got a seat, the train was full.A hard one to swallow commuting on a train with all your supporters after suffering such a gut wrenching defeat.

seligehgit

The Kiltane Knockmore game seems to have been postponed?

ColeTrain

seligehgit wrote: »

Anybody heading up to McHale Park this evening? Nice to see the lads back playing club football. I'll probably head up tomorrow too.Always great to see the 3 O Shea lads togging out, ditto Robbie Hennelly.Enda Varley will see some action,young Caolon Crowe....Big Barry,Patrick Durcan,Danny Kirby,Neil Douglas and the now forgotten Richie Feeney.

As regards tomorrow's action it will be great to run the rule over Cillian,Diarmuid,Jason Gibbons,Danny Geraghty, David Clarke,Ger Cafferkey,Alex Corduff,Kevin McLoughlin and most especially young Evan Regan.

Is it true that there was no arrangements made by the County Board for the team to stay in Dublin post the replay?Absolute disgrace if true,the lads spilled their guts on the football pitch and apparently a decision was made that that they'd return home to Mayo that same night post a contest that finished at 7 in the evening.

Quite bizarre but I observed a not to be named Mayo player getting on the Maynooth inter rail train at 8 with his gear,couldn't get my head around this.Not too sure if he'd even have got a seat, the train was full.A hard one to swallow commuting on a train with all your supporters after suffering such a gut wrenching defeat.

That's untrue, they had the option of staying in The Regency or heading home!

seligehgit

Glad to hear that.

seligehgit

Breaffy 1-7 Garrymore 9 HT,decent game of football.Garrymore are a tad unlucky to be trailing if the truth be told.

seligehgit

FT Breaffy 2-12 Garrymore 14

A full of incident second half,crucial error by the Garrymore goalkeeper Moryn Connolly handed Breaffy their second goal,almost immediately Robbie Hennelly handed Garrymore a guilt edged opportunity with an equally poor kick out.The crossbar saved Breaffy.Robbie redeemed himself kicking a lovely 45.


Bit of a schmozzle,one red for either side.Breaffy pushed on,Conor O Shea had an excellent game for the Breaffy men,my MOTM.Kicked a few lovely scores and showed exceptionally well for the ball.Liam Irwin made a massive contribution on his introduction.Liam Devenney had a very decent game as referee,sensible with the advantage rule,not overly fussy and getting the majority of the big calls right.One of the best referees in the county.

FT Castlebar Mitchels 5-13 Aghmore 1-7

Quite a disappointing clash,never got going.Initially a poor standard of football,slow and pedantic most especially in the first half.The poor Aghmore goalkeeper Niall Walsh had a nightmare,his kickouts contributed to several of the Mitchels goals.Notable contributions from the excellent Patrick Durcan,what a prospect...Big Barry had a fine game in the middle,Shane Hopkins kicked some nice scores.Danny Kirby improved in the second half before picking up a silly black card.In truth the Mitchels were coasting,unfortunately Eamon McAndrew is overly fussy referee,rarely did he make use of the advantage rule,far too whistle happy.

ProudDUB

seligehgit wrote: »

Glad to hear that.

I read (on another site) that a few of the players brought their cars up to Dublin, as they were planning on attending the hurling the final the next day, win, lose, or draw. They needed their cars to get home again on Sunday evening. They left the cars on the outskirts of the city (at the team hotel maybe?) and traveled to the game on the team bus. There was supposed to be transport laid on for them after the game, to go and get their cars, but it fell through, leading to the players having to make their own travel arrangements. No idea if that is true or not, but if it is, it must have been pretty brutal for them alright.

seligehgit

Caught the tail's end of an exciting junior A chamionship semi final replay..Killala edging out a Achill by a solitary score.Unfortunately the quarter final clash between Ballintubber and Ballina did not leave up to it's billing.

Ballintubber 16 Ballina 7

Ballintubber were always comfortable in this clash,stepping up a gear whence ever threatened,far too much quality for a limited Ballina team.Excellent first half from Diarmuid O Connor,Cillian stepped up with his quota of frees,missed a couple of goal chances.Good performance from Danny Geraghty at centre back.Jason Gibbons was my MOTM,covered every blade of grass in a commanding performance.He needs to be brought back into the Mayo panel as soon as possible,I'm still mystified as to the explanation for his absence from same.We could really have done with him when we were all at sea against Dublin post Seamie's black card and Barry Moran's substitution.He has some engine.

The Ballina full back Padraig O Hora is definitely worth a look at,extremely quick,brave..needs to bulk up a tad.Alex Corduff performed well for the Stephenites out in the middle,Mikey Murray kicked 2 beautiful free kicks.Evan Regan has that X factor,kicked a couple of beautiful free kicks(McDonaldesque)and threw in a few wides.There is no doubting he has that air of confidence about himself but there is no doubting his ability and potential.Ger Cafferkey did'nt tog out.

The Breaffy midfielder Robbie Fadden was worth a mention from yesterday scoring a goal and a point just before half time to drag Breaffy back into the contest when they were in a spot of bother.

Breaffy Ballintubber should be a very tasty contest.

seligehgit

I know it's a bit early to be talking about the FBD and league but there appears to be a commentary evolving that we should go out and try to win it.I'd be of a mind to try some new lads out whilst been mindful of the importance of maintaining our division one status.We need to rest some of our stalwarts and freshen up the panel.

List of provisional league fixtures 2016.The game against Dublin is again under floodlights.Only 3 home games this time around.

January 31st: Cork v Mayo (2pm)
February 6th: Mayo v Dublin (7pm)
February 28th: Donegal v Mayo (2pm)
March 6th: Monaghan v Mayo (2pm)
March 13th: Mayo v Kerry (2pm)
March 27th: Roscommon v Mayo (3pm)
April 3rd: Mayo v Down (3pm)

padd b1975

Regan looked quality right enough, although he would benefit greatly from a vigorous weights programme over the winter.
The width of the crossbar stopped him from scoring one of the greatest goals ever.

It's vital this guy is kept fit and mentally tuned in to whats needed at the highest level.

A special mention to the Maor who chased my little nephew and his pals from the pitch at half time in the junior match, and again in the senior match (to a chorus of boos) when a few Ballintubber lads tried to have a kick around.

Not really the way to encourage future generations....

seligehgit

padd b1975 wrote: »

Regan looked quality right enough, although he would benefit greatly from a vigorous weights programme over the winter.
The width of the crossbar stopped him from scoring one of the greatest goals ever.

It's vital this guy is kept fit and mentally tuned in to whats needed at the highest level.

A special mention to the Maor who chased my little nephew and his pals from the pitch at half time in the junior match, and again in the senior match (to a chorus of boos) when a few Ballintubber lads tried to have a kick around.

Not really the way to encourage future generations....

Yes it would have been a wonderful goal, not unlike Çiaran McDonald's effort that crashed off the crossbar against Galway at that end many moons ago.He most definitely would benefit from a weights programme.

Yes that steward really needs to get a life,chasing our next generation of footballers off the pitch.