Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

B17G

When are the club championship QFs? Next weekend or the weekend after?

threebeards

B17G wrote: »

When are the club championship QFs? Next weekend or the weekend after?

Saturday Sept 26th:
Breaffy v Garrymore @ 4.00 in McHale Park
Castlebar Mitchels v Aghamore @ 5.30 in McHale Park

Kiltane v Knockmore @ 5.30 in Ballina

Sunday Sept 27th:
Ballintubber v Ballina @ 3.30 in McHale Park

seligehgit

threebeards wrote: »

Saturday Sept 26th:
Breaffy v Garrymore @ 4.00 in McHale Park
Castlebar Mitchels v Aghamore @ 5.30 in McHale Park

Kiltane v Knockmore @ 5.30 in Ballina

Sunday Sept 27th:
Ballintubber v Ballina @ 3.30 in McHale Park

Any predictions?I'd fancy Breaffy,Mitchels,Knockmore and Ballintubber to prevail.Entirely predictable or maybe not!:D

padd b1975

Donie Buckley is going to be a game changing loss if the rumours are true about his departure....


http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/donie-buckleys-future-as-mayo-coach-in-doubt-31526961.html

cocoman

padd b1975 wrote: »

Donie Buckley is going to be a game changing loss if the rumours are true about his departure....


http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/donie-buckleys-future-as-mayo-coach-in-doubt-31526961.html

The loss of Barry Solan definitely won't help either.

Cosmo Kramer

davegrohl48 wrote: »

Interesting regarding U21 teams 2006 and 2012.
We have a very good U21 team next year.
1 - Mark Mulligan
2 - Eddie Doran
3 - Seamus Cunniffe
4 - David Kenny
5 - Michael Hall
6 - Stephen Coen
7 - Barry Duffy
8 - Val Roughneen/Gary Walsh
9 - Mathew Ruane/Padraig Prendergast
10 - Sharoize Akram
11 - Diarmuid OConnor
12 - Conor Loftus
13 - Fionan Duffy
14 - TJ Byrne
15 - Brian Reape
That's a hell of a forward line built around the power of TJ Byrne, Fionan Duffy and Diarmuid OConnor.

Whatever happened to Tommy Conroy - will he be on the under 21 scene next year?

Fr Tod Umptious

padd b1975 wrote: »

Donie Buckley is going to be a game changing loss if the rumours are true about his departure....


http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/donie-buckleys-future-as-mayo-coach-in-doubt-31526961.html

Hopefully they learned something from him in the 3 years.

irishgeo

i am hearing rumours of unhappiness among the players with the management team or one half of it.

Fr Tod Umptious

irishgeo wrote: »

i am hearing rumours of unhappiness among the players with the management team or one half of it.

Are ya now

MaroonAndGreen

Diarmuid O' Connor is going to be some player lads, can see him being a top top midfielder. That's probably my biggest positive taken from the year, other than the fifth Connacht title in a row of course.

threebeards

irishgeo wrote: »

i am hearing rumours of unhappiness among the players with the management team or one half of it.

I heard similar, and as you said, specifically in relation to one half of the double act. Rumour also has it, whether or not it's connected, that Kevin McStay didn't allow his name to go forward for ratification in Roscommon last week. I was also told this morning from a good Cavan source, that the Cavan team are expecting to lose Liam McHale as coach. I don't know quite what's happening, but something is definitely bubbling under the surface. Despite the fact that I gave Holmes and Connelly a chance, and the benefit of the doubt, I watched the Dublin replay back last Monday night, and some of the decisions made on the sideline are beyond belief. The review with County Board won't come quickly enough

MaroonAndGreen

threebeards wrote:

I heard similar, and as you said, specifically in relation to one half of the double act. Rumour also has it, whether or not it's connected, that Kevin McStay didn't allow his name to go forward for ratification in Roscommon last week. I was also told this morning from a good Cavan source, that the Cavan team are expecting to lose Liam McHale as coach. I don't know quite what's happening, but something is definitely bubbling under the surface. Despite the fact that I gave Holmes and Connelly a chance, and the benefit of the doubt, I watched the Dublin replay back last Monday night, and some of the decisions made on the sideline are beyond belief. The review with County Board won't come quickly enough

My God you are actually implying that McStay and McHale are going to take over... No chance

Fr Tod Umptious

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

My God you are actually implying that McStay and McHale are going to take over... No chance

Yep its all going to happen.

County Board meeting tomorrow week to ratify it all.

irishgeo

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

My God you are actually implying that McStay and McHale are going to take over... No chance

i be surprised myself.

km79

"Logic and mayogaa rarely go together "
tweet from Aidan o Shea just now.......

MaroonAndGreen

km79 wrote:

"Logic and mayogaa rarely go together " tweet from Aidan o Shea just now.......

Seen that..

glack

What have they done now!!!

naughto

Maughan for the u21 job iam hearing

glack

That's hardly what Aidan is tweeting about though....

naughto

glack wrote: »

That's hardly what Aidan is tweeting about though....

No I doubt it

kippy

In fairness, one has to feel for the players a lot.
They have put in some serious commitment over the years and lets hope that whatever is currently happening behind the scenes is with the full backing of the players.

glack

kippy wrote: »

In fairness, one has to feel for the players a lot.
They have put in some serious commitment over the years and lets hope that whatever is currently happening behind the scenes is with the full backing of the players.

Aidan's tweet doesn't make it sound like that! He's only one player I know but sounds to me as if he's unhappy with something!!

wirelessdude01

Sounds like turmoil is about to happen.

kippy

glack wrote: »

Aidan's tweet doesn't make it sound like that! He's only one player I know but sounds to me as if he's unhappy with something!!

It's hard to know from a one liner without context but yeah, the signs are at least he doesn't have to much time for what is happening behind the scenes.

ColeTrain

There's no need for Aidan O'Shea to be putting out vague messages on Twitter, he's just looking for re-tweets and attention.

Personally, I'd like to see a new manager brought in. I don't think C&H will ever win us an All-Ireland. I wonder what the morale in the camp is really like.

Ascii

I am sceptical about changing the management after just 1 year.... was never a major fan of Holmes, but they did deliver in 2006 and him again in 2001 in the league. Surely they deserve another year. locals down my side were praising them for the way they masterminded big bird in the Donegal game. Could they really have been that clueless in the second game against Dublin I ask myself. I know last year I said it that JH would not make crazy decisions in Limerick having the advantage of playing Kerry the week before..but he did. And this year I said that there is no way the management would make stupid decisions on the side line in the second game last weekend, but again they did. Can management be really to blame for all these instances or should the players on the pitch be taking more responsibility ?

In a nut shell I think they deserve one more run, but we need to see a flock of new players in the FBD and I think a league final is a must for next year.

Ascii

ColeTrain wrote: »

There's no need for Aidan O'Shea to be putting out vague messages on Twitter, he's just looking for re-tweets and attention.

Personally, I'd like to see a new manager brought in. I don't think C&H will ever win us an All-Ireland. I wonder what the morale in the camp is really like.

Agree whole heartedly...should not be putting s**te up until the county board meeting next week. Fuelling speculation and rumours

On a side, don't see any harm in giving the U21 job to Mauaghan. Well worth a shot in my eyes. Cant go any lower

ColeTrain

Ascii wrote: »

I am sceptical about changing the management after just 1 year.... was never a major fan of Holmes, but they did deliver in 2006 and him again in 2001 in the league. Surely they deserve another year. locals down my side were praising them for the way they masterminded big bird in the Donegal game. Could they really have been that clueless in the second game against Dublin I ask myself. I know last year I said it that JH would not make crazy decisions in Limerick having the advantage of playing Kerry the week before..but he did. And this year I said that there is no way the management would make stupid decisions on the side line in the second game last weekend, but again they did. Can management be really to blame for all these instances or should the players on the pitch be taking more responsibility ?

In a nut shell I think they deserve one more run, but we need to see a flock of new players in the FBD and I think a league final is a must for next year.

An U-21 title nearly ten years ago doesn't give them a pass in my book nor does Holmes winning a league title nearly 15 years ago. Surely our standards are better than that? I'd look at recent things like Castlebar in the club final to be honest.

Playing Moran as a sweeper against Donegal was a good move but it wasn't the winning of the game. Man for man we are better than Donegal, like Galway it was a game we should be winning most days. You look back against Dublin and say we were lucky to come back from the dead with seven down, it was just pure heart from the players that got us the draw and nothing was learned in the replay. Vaughan starting was a poor call, high ball into O'Shea was a disaster, substitutions were off too. I got the impression that the players were really going for it this year by themselves.

I'd roll the dice and get someone else in. It will freshen things up at the very least because we're going nowhere with the current set-up if we are being honest. I've nothing against Pat and Noel personally but this group of players deserve the very best and the worst thing that could happen is that they chuck it and go through the motions. They need to be inspired and motivated for another year and that's something Noel and Pat won't do.

Jimmy Macnulty

Pretty sure the tweet is directed at the county board for ratifying the existing minor management team again. O'Sheas father was part of a management team that went for the position and I am very surprised myself they didn't get it. Bit silly putting a tweet like that out there though. Either say it out straight or don't say it at all.

Fr Tod Umptious

I think people are over reacting a bit about the management team to be honest.

In 2015 Mayo lost to what I believe are the best team in the country, after a replay.

I for one would not have been surprised if this team went out to Galway in the first round and then in the qualifiers on some wet Saturday night up north.

The team that they took over had spend 4 hard years on the road without the ultimate success that was hoped for.

They had changes to make, not huge ones, but changes all the same. And they made those changes, introduced Dirmuaid O' Connor, put AOS up front, used Barry Moran in a sweeper role etc.
We saw Patrick Durkan play well on the big stage and it's a real pity were never saw Evan Regan get to play more than 10 mins.

Now what they have to do in the winter is properly evaluate how to get the best out of AOS in FF, if that is what the best option for him actually is, get the sweeper\defence sorted out etc.

As I said before here Mayo likely avoid Dublin and Kerry next year so there is a real chance for a final appearance.

I listened to the Mayo News podcast in the run up to the first Dublin game and one thing that was mentioned was that Keith Higgins's demeanour in the lead up to the game was very much, and I'm paraphrasing, "if we do not win this year then there is absolutely no question of us packing it in, we will be back against next year, hungrier and better"

I really hope that is the case

We will have a much bigger body of work to judge the management on this time next year, so i think we are better off waiting until then.

As for the Dublin replay itself I think the loss of SOS was a huge turning point, it reduced Mayo's options at midfield just as Dublin were bringing on fresh legs there.