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Energia dual rate [18% off Elec & 17% off of Gas]

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    #152
    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,311 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    guile4582 wrote: »
    signed up end of Oct last year on dual fuel

    Then your in a 12 month contract, they may let you leave without a penalty.

    As you are still in the discount period then I doubt that you will save a ton. If you switched after you switch then yes you will save.

    Also Board Gais have the best deal but it doesn't show up on bonkers.ie because of some regulation rule. Look at the column of the left and see the extras then see the asterix beside the savings


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    #153
    shardylan
    Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭shardylan


    I'm on Bord Gais payg for gas and electric .Anyone any idea who does best rate ?


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    #154
    guile4582
    Registered Users Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭guile4582


    ted1 wrote: »
    Then your in a 12 month contract, they may let you leave without a penalty.

    As you are still in the discount period then I doubt that you will save a ton. If you switched after you switch then yes you will save.

    Also Board Gais have the best deal but it doesn't show up on bonkers.ie because of some regulation rule. Look at the column of the left and see the extras then see the asterix beside the savings

    do i just organise the switch date myself? i will see out the 12 months, but you know it being Ireland some places require 30 days notice in writing or fax or some draconian stuff


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    #155
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Once out of contract you just tell your new supplier your MPRN/GPRN and current readings.


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    #156
    flyguy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭flyguy


    shardylan wrote: »
    I'm on Bord Gais payg for gas and electric .Anyone any idea who does best rate ?

    http://www.moneyguideireland.com/electricity-and-gas-cheapest-combined-prices.html


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    #157
    guile4582
    Registered Users Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭guile4582


    is the Energia price quoted there for new customers only though


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    #158
    Macca07
    Registered Users Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Macca07


    I've been with Airtricity since November last year, worst service provider in this country, without question. Have had issues with them since March, took money via direct debit without permission, and then threatened to disconnect our services if we didn't pay off what we owe...

    They've now agreed to cancel the contract early. Won't be going back there even if I was given free electricity and gas for the remainder of my life.

    My point is, it might be cheaper, but might not be worth the hassle.


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    #159
    dcollins
    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭dcollins


    My contract is just up and they offered a renewal discount of 12/11% only. Dual fuel. and admitted they know switching is cheaper.


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    #160
    fleet_admiral
    Registered Users Posts: 3,747 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Just off the phone to Energia, Im with them for both, expiring at the end of September. They offered me 4.6c per unit for gas and 14.65c a unit for electricity. I went to bonkers to compare and cant see anything better.
    They also said I will have access to a reward site for deals on shopping etc.. if I stay


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    #161
    mrcheez
    Registered Users Posts: 13,635 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    Just off the phone to Energia, Im with them for both, expiring at the end of September. They offered me 4.6c per unit for gas and 14.65c a unit for electricity. I went to bonkers to compare and cant see anything better.
    They also said I will have access to a reward site for deals on shopping etc.. if I stay

    Cool, I'll see if they'll do a similar deal here.


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    #162
    CH3OH
    Registered Users Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    Just off the phone to Energia, Im with them for both, expiring at the end of September. They offered me 4.6c per unit for gas and 14.65c a unit for electricity. I went to bonkers to compare and cant see anything better.
    They also said I will have access to a reward site for deals on shopping etc.. if I stay

    14.65c a unit for electricity. Is this price including VAT?


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    #163
    StaticNoise
    Registered Users Posts: 2,405 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    Just a little thing I'd like to mention: I don't work for Energia have any link to them (apart from joining them last week). However, they are one of the only (if not the only) provider to jse, in excess, of 90% renewable sources. Energia actually use 94% renewables and 6% gas.

    Airtricity, dubbed as the "environmentally friendly" provider doesn't have that level of renewables. Electric Ireland does have a plan which gives you "100% renewable energy", however it is more expensive than standard rates and more expensive than Energia. Also, the end user doesn't actually get the energy: they only agree to BUY an equal amount of renewable energy.

    So, by all means use price as an important factor, absolutely, but it is even better when a lower price is available and it uses renewable sources. We've screwed this planet enough. Even one person more is better than one person less.

    That's why I went for Energia. After a forty minute call from Electric Ireland trying to get me to stay and also taking feedback, even they said they can't offer the same level of renewables offered by Energia. They can't deliver such environmentally friendly services, simple as.

    Hopefully this information benefits someone. Slag the environment bloke here if you must, but trying to do better for the planet whilst saving money is a no-brainer.


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    #164
    fleet_admiral
    Registered Users Posts: 3,747 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    CH3OH wrote: »
    14.65c a unit for electricity. Is this price including VAT?
    I didnt ask them that. Another phone call in the morning it is


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    #165
    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,311 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    StaticNoise wrote: »
    Just a little thing I'd like to mention: I don't work for Energia have any link to them (apart from joining them last week). However, they are one of the only (if not the only) provider to jse, in excess, of 90% renewable sources. Energia actually use 94% renewables and 6% gas.

    Airtricity, dubbed as the "environmentally friendly" provider doesn't have that level of renewables. Electric Ireland does have a plan which gives you "100% renewable energy", however it is more expensive than standard rates and more expensive than Energia. Also, the end user doesn't actually get the energy: they only agree to BUY an equal amount of renewable energy.

    So, by all means use price as an important factor, absolutely, but it is even better when a lower price is available and it uses renewable sources. We've screwed this planet enough. Even one person more is better than one person less.

    That's why I went for Energia. After a forty minute call from Electric Ireland trying to get me to stay and also taking feedback, even they said they can't offer the same level of renewables offered by Energia. They can't deliver such environmentally friendly services, simple as.

    Hopefully this information benefits someone. Slag the environment bloke here if you must, but trying to do better for the planet whilst saving money is a no-brainer.

    It really doesn't matter who you use. All the electricity goes into a pool and then is used by all.
    If they didn't supply any customers they would still sell their renewable to the grid.
    Also the 94% doesn't seem right, they are part of the Veridian group who own the CCGT plant in Huntstown.

    PANDA Power actually Generate more renewable power than they sell. So you should move to them


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    #166
    StaticNoise
    Registered Users Posts: 2,405 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    ted1 wrote: »
    It really doesn't matter who you use. All the electricity goes into a pool and then is used by all.
    If they didn't supply any customers they would still sell their renewable to the grid.
    Also the 94% doesn't seem right, they are part of the Veridian group who own the CCGT plant in Huntstown.

    PANDA Power actually Generate more renewable power than they sell. So you should move to them

    Point taken. But, I'll have to research this more accordingly and look at a provider before I cancel.

    As for the 94%: https://switcher.ie/gas-electricity/news/energia-comes-out-on-top-for-renewable-energy/


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    #167
    newacc2015
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    StaticNoise wrote: »
    Point taken. But, I'll have to research this more accordingly and look at a provider before I cancel.

    As for the 94%: https://switcher.ie/gas-electricity/news/energia-comes-out-on-top-for-renewable-energy/

    Eirgrid control the national grid. All electricity generated is sold in real time market. When there is shortage, we import from the UK. When there is excess supply, we export to the UK.

    Preference is given to renewable energy by Eirgrid. But renewable energy is unreliable, so there has to be back up gas/coal plants. It doesnt matter is Energia own 2000MW, if there is no wind and everything they supply is from gas fired plants.


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    #168
    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,311 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    StaticNoise wrote: »
    Point taken. But, I'll have to research this more accordingly and look at a provider before I cancel.

    As for the 94%: https://switcher.ie/gas-electricity/news/energia-comes-out-on-top-for-renewable-energy/

    The site says:
    ear 94% of Energia’s fuel mix was derived from renewable resources, with the firm currently supplying more than 680 Megawatts of renewable energy.

    Huntstown is a 774MW station.

    The site should talk about MWH as MW is not a quantitive measurement.


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    #169
    guile4582
    Registered Users Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭guile4582


    i don't care where it comes from or how it gets to me as long as it is the cheapest :)


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    #170
    StaticNoise
    Registered Users Posts: 2,405 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    ted1 wrote: »
    The site says:
    ear 94% of Energia’s fuel mix was derived from renewable resources, with the firm currently supplying more than 680 Megawatts of renewable energy.

    Huntstown is a 774MW station.

    The site should talk about MWH as MW is not a quantitive measurement.
    "The recent report found that Energia’s all-island emissions of CO2 in tonnes per megawatt hour (MWh) of electricity supplied was 0.424 in 2012, ahead of the all-island average 0.481, and competing suppliers Airtricity (0.449), Electric Ireland (0.469) and Bord Gáis (0.480)."

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    #171
    projektzwoo
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭projektzwoo


    How much deposit do Energia take? I think about switching. Would use direct debit and online billing, both gas and elec.


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    #172
    guile4582
    Registered Users Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭guile4582


    CH3OH wrote: »
    14.65c a unit for electricity. Is this price including VAT?

    any update on this?


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    #173
    Barr
    Registered Users Posts: 6,992 ✭✭✭Barr


    I am also on the Energia dual rate at the moment. Is it worth switching now my 12 month contract is up ?


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    #174
    reni10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭reni10


    I contacted Energia and they said they could not give me the same deal again as my 12 months was up so I am going to switch as I use a good bit of electricity.

    According to Bonkers.ie I can save about €150 by moving to Panda Power for Electricity and €160 by moving the gas to Flogas


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    #175
    mrcheez
    Registered Users Posts: 13,635 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    reni10 wrote: »
    According to Bonkers.ie I can save about €150 by moving to Panda Power for Electricity and €160 by moving the gas to Flogas

    So saving €310 per year? Jesus that's good.


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    #176
    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,311 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    mrcheez wrote: »
    So saving €310 per year? Jesus that's good.

    That's off the standard rate the discounts have expired. Do not much difference in the bills


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    #177
    Rashers72
    Registered Users Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Rashers72


    I was with Energia for dual fuel, and went out of contract in March. Did the research via Bonkers in last month, but I had to ring Energia to get their offer. Although there were better deals out there, and a new customer deal with Energia seemed good (but not available to me), what Energia did was backdate the deal to end of contract. This was significant in my case, as Electricity was credited with EUR140, and gas EUR40. Just showed how much extra I was paying when out of contract. Little lesson for all there!


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    #178
    Tazz T
    Registered Users Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Does anyone know if anyone does tariffs where you don't have to pay by direct debit? It's a real hassle for self-employed when you don't know if you'll have the money in the bank when the DD goes through. Everything I click on has to be paid by DD.


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    #179
    tnegun
    Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Just a note to be careful with Energia I almost signed back up for another year as they where quoting me prices ex vat so where bettering anything else I found as those prices where vat inclusive.


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    #180
    mrcheez
    Registered Users Posts: 13,635 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    tnegun wrote: »
    Just a note to be careful with Energia I almost signed back up for another year as they where quoting me prices ex vat so where bettering anything else I found as those prices where vat inclusive.

    I asked them to send me prices with and without VAT (both for my current deal, and what the new 2nd year deal will be), so I can compare accurately when given prices with/without VAT from other providers.

    (Unit price as opposed to the percentage discount as it's easier to compare)

    To be honest if the savings are only something like €20 or €30 I'll stick with Energia as they've been good so far. If it's a €100 or more saving after changing then I'll probably make the switch.


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    #181
    StaticNoise
    Registered Users Posts: 2,405 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    Tazz T wrote: »
    Does anyone know if anyone does tariffs where you don't have to pay by direct debit? It's a real hassle for self-employed when you don't know if you'll have the money in the bank when the DD goes through. Everything I click on has to be paid by DD.
    Yup:

    http://www.bonkers.ie/compare-gas-electricity-prices/sse-airtricity/GQKML4/sse-airtricity-1-year-electricity--no-direct-debit---ebill--1-year-contract-/

    http://www.bonkers.ie/compare-gas-electricity-prices/electric-ireland/NA47AJ/electric-ireland-valuereward--online-billing-/

    http://www.bonkers.ie/compare-gas-electricity-prices/bord-gais-energy/222MA7/bord-g-is-energy-residential/

    http://www.bonkers.ie/compare-gas-electricity-prices/electric-ireland/LEGJH2/electric-ireland-standard---domestic/

    http://www.bonkers.ie/compare-gas-electricity-prices/electric-ireland/C42HXW/electric-ireland-pay-as-you-go-electricity/


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