Goodbye Aer Lingus

54and56 · 27-05-2015 4:55pm

Uncle Ben wrote: »

Agreed. However anything that knocks another % point or two from Labour will suit me.

You are hoping for a Labour swing to FG??

Buona Fortuna · 27-05-2015 5:32pm

Just seen Willie Walsh on RTE - he's like O'Leary without the charm

end of the road · 27-05-2015 5:49pm

Graham wrote: »

Until the Unions lost some of there power, then it was viable.

the unions lost none of their power. they were given much of what they wanted, so didn't need to fight as hard. they could still make the market pay if the market tries to drive down their members conditions. a couple of loonies back in the 80s brutalizing a couple of easy targets isn't the unions losing power. it was the government and industries lying that caused the problems of the 70s. the market wasn't viable and it was advances in technology that made it viable.

Graham · 27-05-2015 6:44pm

end of the road wrote: »

the market wasn't viable and it was advances in technology that made it viable.

Nope, it was competition that made things viable. The relatively recent implosion of the Unions is more a sign that they are much less needed and much less wanted (if at all).

Calina · 27-05-2015 6:46pm

I'd argue in favour of deregulation tbh leading to greater competition. What made a lot of difference to Ryanair was the ability to have bases in different countries.

Calina · 27-05-2015 6:46pm

end of the road wrote: »

the unions lost none of their power. they were given much of what they wanted, so didn't need to fight as hard. they could still make the market pay if the market tries to drive down their members conditions. a couple of loonies back in the 80s brutalizing a couple of easy targets isn't the unions losing power. it was the government and industries lying that caused the problems of the 70s. the market wasn't viable and it was advances in technology that made it viable.

It really wasn't.

end of the road · 27-05-2015 7:09pm

Graham wrote: »

Nope, it was competition that made things viable. The relatively recent implosion of the Unions is more a sign that they are much less needed and much less wanted (if at all).

no, it was advances in technology that made it all cheeper for competition viable. the unions haven't imploaded at all, only some gullible people choosing not to join. they are very much needed and wanted and are necessary

end of the road · 27-05-2015 7:10pm

Calina wrote: »

It really wasn't.

i know it wasn't viable at the time.

Calina · 27-05-2015 7:13pm

end of the road wrote: »

no, it was advances in technology that made it all cheeper for competition viable. the unions haven't imploaded at all, only some gullible people choosing not to join. they are very much needed and wanted and are necessary

Do you actually work there EOTR?

Because it was not advances in technology. It was the removal of regulatory barriers which had an impact on the aviation sector. Not technology changes.

Uncle Ben · 27-05-2015 8:15pm

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

You are hoping for a Labour swing to FG??

No difference at the moment between FG and Labour.

54and56 · 28-05-2015 5:39pm

The democratic process has completed and our representatives have agreed to sell our 25% in Aer Lingus.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0528/704294-aer-lingus/

Bye bye.

end of the road · 28-05-2015 6:01pm

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

The democratic process has completed and our representatives have agreed to sell our 25% in Aer Lingus.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0528/704294-aer-lingus/

Bye bye.

what "democratic process" would that be? it was simply sold, nothing more. nothing "democratic" about it. not in my name

Graham · 28-05-2015 6:04pm

end of the road wrote: »

what "democratic process" would that be?

You remember, that process whereby the people elect a government. It wasn't that long ago

That was followed up by another democratic process whereby our elected representatives got the opportunity to vote again on this specific issue on our behalf.

end of the road wrote: »

not in my name

You said, I'm sure they'll remember to leave your name off the contracts of sale.

end of the road · 28-05-2015 6:08pm

Graham wrote: »

You remember, that process whereby the people elect a government. It wasn't that long ago

That was followed up by another democratic process whereby our elected representatives got the opportunity to vote again on this specific issue on our behalf.

no, not on my behalf i'm afraid.

Graham · 28-05-2015 6:25pm

end of the road wrote: »

no, not on my behalf i'm afraid.

That's the joy of a democracy, you don't always get your own way.

54and56 · 28-05-2015 8:30pm

end of the road wrote: »

no, not on my behalf i'm afraid.

Whether you like it or not the elected government of the country you live in and are presumably a citizen of act on behalf of all citizens regardless of whether some of those citizens voted for them or support / agree with what they are doing.

If you don't like that you have two choices:-

1. Become politically active, put your alternative political structure and policies in front of your fellow citizens and see if enough people share your view to elect you.

2. Bugger off to a country where your views on politics and economics are successfully implemented - North Korea springs to mind

end of the road · 28-05-2015 8:44pm

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Whether you like it or not the elected government of the country you live in and are presumably a citizen of act on behalf of all citizens regardless of whether some of those citizens voted for them or support / agree with what they are doing.

If you don't like that you have two choices:-

1. Become politically active, put your alternative political structure and policies in front of your fellow citizens and see if enough people share your view to elect you.

2. Bugger off to a country where your views on politics and economics are successfully implemented - North Korea springs to mind

they didn't act on my behalf. not in my name

Roanmore · 28-05-2015 8:46pm

end of the road wrote: »

they didn't act on my behalf. not in my name

Ah the old EOTR trick, come up with a phrase and keep repeating it ad nausem until the next one comes along.

silverfeather · 28-05-2015 8:49pm

You are not even talking about Air Lingus and IAG anymore.:rolleyes:

54and56 · 28-05-2015 8:54pm

end of the road wrote: »

they didn't act on my behalf. not in my name

Well they took your share of our share of Aer Lingus and sold it.

Your posts remind me of a 4 year old who thinks if they cover their eyes no one can see them

Graham · 28-05-2015 9:00pm

Roanmore wrote: »

Ah the old EOTR trick, come up with a phrase and keep repeating it ad nausem until the next one comes along.

As old as it gets, it's a lot better than 'what about the Cork slots' :pac:

mikeym · 12-06-2015 10:08pm

One good reason why Aer Lingus should not be sold to IAG!!!

http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/food-drink-news/aer-lingus-now-offering-tayto-5872569

darkpagandeath · 12-06-2015 10:11pm

mikeym wrote: »

One good reason why Aer Lingus should not be sold to IAG!!!

http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/food-drink-news/aer-lingus-now-offering-tayto-5872569

Trying to make it posh too being all deconstructed and all that...

54and56 · 13-06-2015 9:38am

mikeym wrote: »

One good reason why Aer Lingus should not be sold to IAG!!!

http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/food-drink-news/aer-lingus-now-offering-tayto-5872569[/quote

Quite the opposite. Selling Aer Lingus to IAG will spread the Tayto sandwich worldwide. Can you think of a better way to promote Irish food?

Calina · 13-06-2015 9:50am

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

mikeym wrote: »

One good reason why Aer Lingus should not be sold to IAG!!!

http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/food-drink-news/aer-lingus-now-offering-tayto-5872569

Quite the opposite. Selling Aer Lingus to IAG will spread the Tayto sandwich worldwide. Can you think of a better way to promote Irish food?

As far as the crisp sandwich is concerned, I don't really think promoting it is required. A Tayto crisp is perfect in every way. Putting it on bread just wrecks it.

Goodbye Aer Lingus

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