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US shooting at Mohahammed Cartoon conference

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    #302
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »
    I know plenty about anatomy, physics etc. and knowing those things doesn't make me an expert on what happens when someone gets shot. You are the definition of an armchair expert and very defensive, as you should be considering your silly claims to knowledge on this subject.

    You're trying too hard to sound edgy, you're clueless.

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: "When you can't attack the argument, attack the character".


    Well, we've been getting off-topic for long enough, how's about we get back to the topic at hand?

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    Have police took the bodies/made sure the vehicle wasn't booby trapped?


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    #303
    Mechanical Clocktail
    Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭Mechanical Clocktail


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: "When you can't attack the argument, attack the character".


    Well, we've been getting off-topic for long enough, how's about we get back to the topic at hand?

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    Have police took the bodies/made sure the vehicle wasn't booby trapped?

    You pretend to be an expert, throw a mini-strop when you're challenged on something, present your non-credentials, and then declare you have an argument at all. You're a joke, keep up the good work.


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    #304
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »
    You pretend to be an expert, throw a mini-strop when you're challenged on something, present your non-credentials, and then declare you have an argument at all. You're a joke, keep up the good work.

    An expert? No. Someone with a basic understanding? Of course. My argument stands up to scrutiny, there's nothing suspicious about the video, it all makes perfect sense, under the circumstances presented.

    Now, can you stop trying to bait me into continuing an off-topic discussion?


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    #305
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »
    I don't want anything, I'm only asking questions. You can't speak with authority on whether the man is clearly shot or not, whether your fetish is guns or not. Referencing action movies doesn't make me feel stupid for asking basic questions either, that's just being cheap on your part. I'm going to take it you're more armchair expert than anything. Knowing about guns is one thing, this is another game entirely. You're basing your expertice on having watched likeleak videos from Syria or something? That's poor training to access anything imo.

    Ok, which is more likely:

    In a terrorist attack by religious extremists, an attack not unprecedented in its motive, a policeman was shot in the head. In Paris. It was filmed by a witnesses on his phone.

    Or

    Some unknown conspiracy theorist on d'internet claims, because a melon explodes when hit by an unknown bullet from an unknown calibre and this police man's doesn't, and because there is little to no blood immediately apparent, it's a staged killing to give the state more anti terrorist powers....


    I've some beans if you're interested...


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    #306
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »
    You're opinion's quite strong on this video, but it comes down to your belief then that the video isn't at all suspicious. That's fair enough. The footage isn't hugely convincing that a man actually got shot. If there was no reporting around the video and it was shown in isolation to someone, would they say for definite that that man was shot or not? From the quality of the footage it remains ambiguous.

    How many people have seen a person being shot outside the movies ?


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    #307
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »
    I know plenty about anatomy, physics etc. and knowing those things doesn't make me an expert on what happens when someone gets shot. You are the definition of an armchair expert and very defensive, as you should be considering your silly claims to knowledge on this subject.

    You're trying too hard to sound edgy, you're clueless.

    Have you ever seen someone shot ?


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    #308
    Mechanical Clocktail
    Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭Mechanical Clocktail


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Ok, which is more likely:

    In a terrorist attack by religious extremists, an attack not unprecedented in its motive, a policeman was shot in the head. In Paris. It was filmed by a witnesses on his phone.

    Or

    Some unknown conspiracy theorist on d'internet claims, because a melon explodes when hit by an unknown bullet from an unknown calibre and this police man's doesn't, and because there is little to no blood immediately apparent, it's a staged killing to give the state more anti terrorist powers....


    I've some beans if you're interested...

    I'm not making any claims myself, there's always an official line, and then there's whatever really happened. It's quite likely he was shot and killed, the video doesn't show anything definitive death wise. People claiming to be experts on here are pure spoofers. Hands up who's seen a man get shot in the head with an AK before?

    I don't know anything about melons at all. I know enough about beans though, I can tell yours aren't magic ones.


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    #309
    Joshua J
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Joshua J


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Have you ever seen someone shot ?

    You're asking the wrong person he's never claimed expertise in the subject or made definitive judgements like other posters, only saying it was suspicious.


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    #310
    Joshua J
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Joshua J


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    An expert? No. Someone with a basic understanding? Of course. My argument stands up to scrutiny, there's nothing suspicious about the video, it all makes perfect sense, under the circumstances presented.

    Now, can you stop trying to bait me into continuing an off-topic discussion?

    Yeah I once went out with a girl whose brother was in the FCA so I guess I'm an internet expert too. Although I suspect I'm not the only one both telling porkies.


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    #311
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Joshua J wrote: »
    Yeah I once went out with a girl whose brother was in the FCA so I guess I'm an internet expert too. Although I suspect I'm not the only one both telling porkies.

    Can you care to refute any of the claims with actual facts, rather than resorting to ad hominem?
    Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »
    I'm not making any claims myself, there's always an official line, and then there's whatever really happened. It's quite likely he was shot and killed, the video doesn't show anything definitive death wise. People claiming to be experts on here are pure spoofers. Hands up who's seen a man get shot in the head with an AK before? .

    "I believe you haven't seen it in person, so the video must be fake and you're just lying!"

    Is this the level of delusion discussion we've reached? How delightfully farcical. I've told you about all the technical points, you would simply rather be the "I'm just asking questions" person than believe the answer. It's absolutely ridiculous.
    Joshua J wrote: »
    You're asking the wrong person he's never claimed expertise in the subject or made definitive judgements like other posters, only saying it was suspicious.

    Except it isn't suspicious, and has already been explained.

    "I-i'm just a-asking questions is all!"


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    #312
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Joshua J wrote: »
    You're asking the wrong person he's never claimed expertise in the subject or made definitive judgements like other posters, only saying it was suspicious.

    Based on what ? A rational mind would try to separate reactions in movies. A basic understanding of physics i.e. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. And sticking clear of videos labelled "The Truth". Why would it be fake ? Where the people shot in the magazine all faked as well ? As for documents, These people wanted to be found and go out in a blaze of glory for the cause.

    But back on topic..


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    #313
    Joshua J
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Joshua J


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    Can you care to refute any of the claims with actual facts, rather than resorting to ad hominem?



    "I believe you haven't seen it in person, so the video must be fake and you're just lying!"

    Is this the level of delusion discussion we've reached? How delightfully farcical. I've told you about all the technical points, you would simply rather be the "I'm just asking questions" person than believe the answer. It's absolutely ridiculous.



    Except it isn't suspicious, and has already been explained.

    "I-i'm just a-asking questions is all!"

    Refute claims you're an expert? Anti-muslim with a supposed working knowledge of firearms and with "friends" in the military. You're textbook kid. Textbook. And you've already been rumbled.


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    #314
    Mechanical Clocktail
    Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭Mechanical Clocktail


    Joshua J wrote: »
    Refute claims you're an expert? Anti-muslim with a supposed working knowledge of firearms and with "friends" in the military. You're textbook kid. Textbook. And you've already been rumbled.

    Claiming to "have knowledge" of physics and the like is the funniest thing. My uni physics lectures were good but this guys on another level. Probably actually an analyst with the CIA he's so sure of his skills there. Doesn't want to blow his secret cover.


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    #315
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Joshua J wrote: »
    Refute claims you're an expert?

    Yes, just ignore my explanation of why the video doesn't appear to be fake.
    Joshua J wrote: »
    Anti-muslim

    Can you point out to me where I'm anti-Muslim? I have Muslim friends, and I've already stated (this is probably my third time saying it) that I believe economic circumstances are more important than the religion in and of itself.
    Joshua J wrote: »
    with a supposed working knowledge of firearms

    So do farmers, hunters, sport-shooters, casual gun-owners. It's not exactly hard to understand, if you picked up a book and learned to read, you could understand it too.
    Joshua J wrote: »
    and with "friends" in the military.

    Oh, darn, you've gone and proved the physics of that video is wrong by mentioning the military. What next, you ask if I've shot a kid and why I support imperialism?

    People have friends. I have an interest in foreign relations and (by extension) the military. Imagine people with common interests talking. That's unheard of!
    Joshua J wrote: »
    You're textbook kid. Textbook. And you've already been rumbled.

    If only you could read.


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    #316
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Joshua J wrote: »
    Refute claims you're an expert? Anti-muslim with a supposed working knowledge of firearms and with "friends" in the military. You're textbook kid. Textbook. And you've already been rumbled.
    Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »
    Claiming to "have knowledge" of physics and the like is the funniest thing. My uni physics lectures were good but this guys on another level. Probably actually an analyst with the CIA he's so sure of his skills there. Doesn't want to blow his secret cover.

    1 out of 10.


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    #317
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »
    Claiming to "have knowledge" of physics and the like is the funniest thing. My uni physics lectures were good but this guys on another level. Probably actually an analyst with the CIA he's so sure of his skills there. Doesn't want to blow his secret cover.

    And yet you don't seem to understand how ballistics work.


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    #318
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    And yet you don't seem to understand how ballistics work.


    There is no point, It's like trying to explain to a person who plays console games all day like Call of Duty. That soldiers don't operate that way, Physics does not work that way. I mean when was the last time you constantly had lens flair off the sun just walking around :P Or raindrops appearing on your eyes. :pac:


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    #319
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    There is no point, It's like trying to explain to a person who plays console games all day like Call of Duty. That soldiers don't operate that way, Physics does not work that way. I mean when was the last time you constantly had lens flair off the sun just walking around :P Or raindrops appearing on your eyes. :pac:

    I expect this any moment


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    #320
    Mechanical Clocktail
    Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭Mechanical Clocktail


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    If only you could read.
    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    I expect this any moment

    VERY defensive since you admitted not knowing anything. I expect this will be your default now, just throwing insults around and continuing to claim you're an expert.
    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    There is no point, It's like trying to explain to a person who plays console games all day like Call of Duty. That soldiers don't operate that way, Physics does not work that way. I mean when was the last time you constantly had lens flair off the sun just walking around :P Or raindrops appearing on your eyes. :pac:

    I don't play video games but you clearly do. I have no idea what you're talking about but you're practically ridiculing yourself considering you're the gamer here.


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    #321
    bjork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    I saw a lady who was shot with 20 rubber bullets, she was grand, not a scratch


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    #322
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »
    VERY defensive since you admitted not knowing anything. I expect this will be your default now, just throwing insults around and continuing to claim you're an expert.

    Imagine someone responding to insults with insults.

    That's basically an admission of guilt. I'll be speaking to my lawyer and my contacts at the Bureau (that's what we call it FBI in the Intelligence community, got a ring to it, doesn't it?) are tracking you as we speak. Right now I have four hundred SAS in several stealth choppers (helicopters for you civilians) with nearly fifteen thousand clips chambered in .950, armed with the finest SKS47s that money can't buy, to bring you to our CIA safe house in Area 51 for interrogation and mandatory re-education.

    See you in court. Kid.
    bjork wrote: »
    I saw a lady who was shot with 20 rubber bullets, she was grand, not a scratch

    The bullets weren't real, she was in the Matrix, so that Bruce Jenner may remain eternally young.


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    #323
    Mechanical Clocktail
    Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭Mechanical Clocktail


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    Imagine someone responding to insults with insults.

    That's basically an admission of guilt. I'll be speaking to my lawyer and my contacts at the Bureau (that's what we call it FBI in the Intelligence community, got a ring to it, doesn't it?) are tracking you as we speak. Right now I have four hundred SAS in several stealth choppers (helicopters for you civilians) with nearly fifteen thousand clips chambered in .950, armed with the finest SKS47s that money can't buy, to bring you to our CIA safe house in Area 51 for interrogation and mandatory re-education.

    See you in court. Kid.



    The bullets weren't real, she was in the Matrix, so that Bruce Jenner may remain eternally young.


    Yawn. Good luck lad. Keep applying those mad skills.


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    #324
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »
    VERY defensive since you admitted not knowing anything. I expect this will be your default now, just throwing insults around and continuing to claim you're an expert.



    I don't play video games but you clearly do. I have no idea what you're talking about but you're practically ridiculing yourself considering you're the gamer here.

    Aw, Now you hurt my feelings. :pac:


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    #325
    folamh
    Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭folamh


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6s-JFnw15Q


    Religion of peace, y'all.


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    #326
    Joshua J
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Joshua J


    When a media organisation wishes to stoke up some anti-muslin hatred they call Anjem Choudry and put him on TV spouting bile. Use your brain.


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    #327
    folamh
    Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭folamh


    Joshua J wrote: »
    When a media organisation wishes to stoke up some anti-muslin hatred they call Anjem Choudry and put him on TV spouting bile. Use your brain.

    My brain is trying to figure out why this dude hasn't been banned from the UK like Shirley Phelps.


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    #328
    bb1234567
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Angelique Bitter Gut wrote: »
    Hilarious! 2 people are dead. They may have been the gunmen but two human beings are still dead.
    Stuck for a thread?

    They came with the intent of killing innocent people. Spare us the PC bull


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    #329
    Joshua J
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Joshua J


    folamh wrote: »
    My brain is trying to figure out why this dude hasn't been banned from the UK like Shirley Phelps.

    Cause he's a UK citizen and she's not. And he serves his purpose.


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    #330
    Joshua J
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Joshua J


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    They came with the intent of killing innocent people. Spare us the PC bull

    And they had the event in the hope of getting people to come with the intent of killing people and they were successful and now two men are dead. Back slaps all round.


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    #331
    diddley
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭diddley


    Joshua J wrote: »
    And he serves his purpose.

    What would that be? :confused:


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