US shooting at Mohahammed Cartoon conference

darkpagandeath

Joshua J wrote: »

Cause he's a UK citizen and she's not. And he serves his purpose.

What purpose would that be ? If it's the one you are alluding to why are the UK police so kid gloves and afraid to be racist and had let terrible things happen.

Joshua J

darkpagandeath wrote: »

What purpose would that be ? If it's the one you are alluding to why are the UK police so kid gloves and afraid to be racist and had let terrible things happen.

What I'm alluding too would explain why the UK police are so kids gloves so your obviously miles away. Stop lapping up bogus propaganda ffs.

bb1234567

Joshua J wrote: »

And they had the event in the hope of getting people to come with the intent of killing people and they were successful and now two men are dead. Back slaps all round.

No. People are allowed to hold 'drawing contests', people aren't allowed to attack them . People shouldn't be blamed for doing something completely legal, it may have been in bad taste but people who defend gunmen are just wrong. If something pisses you off the answer is not an armed counter attack, people love blaming everyone else but the muslim extremists.

bb1234567

Joshua J wrote: »

And they had the event in the hope of getting people to come with the intent of killing people and they were successful and now two men are dead. Back slaps all round.

Also the men chose to do this of their own free will and got themselves killed. You phrased it as if they weren't the ONLY instigators of their own deaths

Joshua J

bb1234567 wrote: »

No. People are allowed to hold 'drawing contests', people aren't allowed to attack them . People shouldn't be blamed for doing something completely legal, it may have been in bad taste but people who defend gunmen are just wrong. If something pisses you off the answer is not an armed counter attack, people love blaming everyone else but the muslim extremists.

WTF are you even talking about. The event was a complete success.

SILVAMAN

Angelique Bitter Gut wrote: »

Hilarious! 2 people are dead. They may have been the gunmen but two human beings are still dead.
Stuck for a thread?

They don't count.
They forfeited any sympathy the moment the began to plan their terror attack. Let's hope that the police will track down their fellow travellers and eradicate them too.

darkpagandeath

Joshua J wrote: »

WTF are you even talking about. The event was a complete success.

In what way ? Proving there are Radicalised nut jobs willing to shoot up a place because of drawings ? That break no laws or even religious laws ?

Joshua J

I'm surrounded by people who talk to much and think too little.

darkpagandeath

Joshua J wrote: »

I'm surrounded by people who talk to much and think too little.

Yeah them people tried to shoot up a place.

bb1234567

Joshua J wrote: »

WTF are you even talking about. The event was a complete success.

So, the real bad guys here are the people making drawings of mohammad. Not the murderous gunmen...i see your logic

bb1234567

Suppose you think scantily clad young ladies are looking to get raped too?

Joshua J

bb1234567 wrote: »

So, the real bad guys here are the people making drawings of mohammad. Not the murderous gunmen...i see your logic

No you don't.

Joshua J

bb1234567 wrote: »

Suppose you think scantily clad young ladies are looking to get raped too?

You're an idiot.

darkpagandeath

Joshua J wrote: »

No you don't.

What Religous law was broken ?

Joshua J

darkpagandeath wrote: »

What Religous law was broken ?

Who gives a fcuk?. It's like talking to a robot.

bb1234567

Joshua J wrote: »

You're an idiot.

Its the exact same thing.
You're saying that the people hosting the competition wanted to be attacked by radical muslims

darkpagandeath

Joshua J wrote: »

Who gives a fcuk?. It's like talking to a robot.

Why do facts anger people ? :pac:

bb1234567

Joshua J wrote: »

Who gives a fcuk?. It's like talking to a robot.

Lots of people

IrishTrajan

Joshua J wrote: »

Who gives a fcuk?

The entire justice and court system. Normal, rational people.

Egginacup

Bottom line is...

If you do something that enrages someone, specifically someone you don't like, like Muslims, and your action generates the reaction that your petty attempts expect....then you are a champion of free speech.

If someone does something similar such as exercising their "right to free speech" by calling a cop a name or giving the finger to a bouncer (perfectly legal) and get their heads kicked in by the cop or doorman, then they deserve it. They stoked the violence.

bb1234567

Egginacup wrote: »

Bottom line is...

If you do something that enrages someone, specifically someone you don't like, like Muslims, and your action generates the reaction that your petty attempts expect....then you are a champion of free speech.

If someone does something similar such as exercising their "right to free speech" by calling a cop a name or giving the finger to a bouncer (perfectly legal) and get their heads kicked in by the cop or doorman, then they deserve it. They stoked the violence.

Bouncers and cops are symbols of authority, and those situations involve one offender being punished.
Radical muslims aren't and can never let be symbols of authority in our nations. And what they were planning was a mass attack that would have hurt or left innocent people not even drawing in the competition dead.

IrishTrajan

Egginacup wrote: »

Bottom line is...

If you do something that enrages someone, specifically someone you don't like, like Muslims, and your action generates the reaction that your petty attempts expect....then you are a champion of free speech.

If someone does something similar such as exercising their "right to free speech" by calling a cop a name or giving the finger to a bouncer (perfectly legal) and get their heads kicked in by the cop or doorman, then they deserve it. They stoked the violence.

What the hell are you talking about? That person is an ass, but the bouncer/cop is absolutely in the wrong. You don't reply to (most, there are some circumstances where the threat of violence necessitates the use of pre-emptive violence) words with physical violence, and anyone who does is absolutely retarded.

Roger Hassenforder

Egginacup wrote: »

Bottom line is...

If you do something that enrages someone, specifically someone you don't like, like Muslims, and your action generates the reaction that your petty attempts expect....then you are a champion of free speech.

If someone does something similar such as exercising their "right to free speech" by calling a cop a name or giving the finger to a bouncer (perfectly legal) and get their heads kicked in by the cop or doorman, then they deserve it. They stoked the violence.

bottom line is however odious Ms Geller and the AFDI is, however illconceived their "competition" was, they were exercising their right to free speech. If you are "offended", you dont have the right to kill the offender. She's not a champion of free speech; she just exercised her rights. If you dont like the rights that living in a country confers on it citizens, f**k off out of it.

Who says you deserve to have your head kicked in for calling a cop/bouncer a name?

take everything

Looks like Geert Wilders is airing these cartoons on Dutch TV again next Saturday.

MathDebater

Wilders should stop poking the hornets nest. He knows fell well that muslims are going to freak the fcuk out. That's all well and good for him with his 'round the clock security. Not so much the poor innocent sods who get caught in the backlash.

captainfrost

They deserve worse, death through gun shoot is doesn't seem fair to me.

Hoop66

A reasoned and well-delivered opinion.

Samaris

This whole situation seems absolutely nuts to me.

Firstly, a bunch of people who dislike a religion get together and start mocking it by deliberately doing things that they know are disrespectful to it. It was a Prophet Mohammad art exhibition for heaven's sake. Talk about attention-seeking.

Then two radicalised fanatics, aka stupid brainwashed idiots, come along and take potshots at it, fortunately killing no-one, but injuring one man in the ankle. Hopefully he'll make a full recovery. Two lives are ended, an eight-year-old is left without a father, and two families have to come to terms with not just losing their brothers/sons/fathers/partners, but also the horrific thing they tried to do.

Meh. They were still real people, and to pretend otherwise is to ignore that people, seemingly normal young men and women, can fall victim to this terrifying trend of radicalism and start thinking that killing in the name of religion is a somehow great thing to do. It's not just "someone else's problem". Families always think it will always be someone else's son or daughter until they have to live with it.

I have no sympathy with the morons that go out of their way to goad adherents to a particular religious belief either. They weren't just insulting some terrorist party. They were insulting a few million people who'd never done anything to them, for attention. Don't say they deserve to be shot, beaten or terrorised, mind you. But it was still assholish.

SILVAMAN

MathDebater wrote: »

muslims are going to freak the fcuk out.

Perhaps time for the Muslim community to pull it's head out of its ass and accept that this is now the 21st Century, not the 6th century.

Nodin

SILVAMAN wrote: »

Perhaps time for the Muslim community to pull it's head out of its ass and accept that this is now the 21st Century, not the 6th century.

Yep, all one billion of them, in the 6th century.