Off Topic Thread too point uh

CatFromHue · 27-01-2015 10:06PM

awec wrote: »

Wages in Dublin are definitely higher but IMO they don't fully compensate for the higher costs of living.

My mates up home are buying brand new 3 bed houses for 80 grand, with an 8k deposit. Their mortgage each month is a fraction of my rent.

Is it general wages or specific jobs that have the higher wages?

I'm an Engineer (I suppose mechanical but not in construction) and I don't see any increase in wages.

I'd have thought for banking and IT it could be true but equally we have the IFSC and The Silicon Docks which would increase the wages no matter where they're situated.

chupacabra · 27-01-2015 10:07PM

Coffee on a Ironing board? Try a skate park and a bathtub in a local bar here in Tallinn. Awful hipster shíte altogether.

.ak · 27-01-2015 10:13PM

That's not what a hipster is. They're just skaters. Nobody is safe.

errlloyd · 27-01-2015 10:16PM

molloyjh wrote: »

It could be said that this will drive house prices down, but that in itself will simply mean second hand house sales will plummet because current home owners won't be able to afford to sell. I honestly can't see who, if anyone, will benefit from these ridiculous measures. Landlords?

Just remember that Mortgage law only applies to 80% of their portfolio. So they can still give 100% Mortgages to 20% of their customers. What you're gonna need is pretty excellent credit rating to get that, but if you've been through the **** over the last while, and managed to keep them happy, I am sure you'd be in the top 20 percent.

The new rule is even dafter. They can give 90% mortgages to first time buyers, but only up to like 250k, which will get you nothing in Dublin (or any other city). So they can give 90% mortgages to rural first time buyers.

mfceiling · 27-01-2015 10:53PM

Some of rap aficionados out there might be able to push me gently in the right direction here. I have quite literally zero knowledge of the genre but I have managed to shazam the following 2 songs.

and

Where do I need to be heading musically now?

CatFromHue · 27-01-2015 11:13PM

Where do you want to heading musically now?

Zzippy · 27-01-2015 11:17PM

If you liked those you'll love this

irishbucsfan · 27-01-2015 11:19PM

mfceiling wrote: »

Some of rap aficionados out there might be able to push me gently in the right direction here. I have quite literally zero knowledge of the genre but I have managed to shazam the following 2 songs.

CLPIPPED

and

CLIPPED

Where do I need to be heading musically now?

OR if you want to go modern and see where the politically motivated stuff went

EDIT: ACtually just thought maybe the video itself is against rugby forum charter, so it was Killer Mike - Reagan!

mfceiling · 27-01-2015 11:30PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

OR if you want to go modern and see where the politically motivated stuff went

EDIT: ACtually just thought maybe the video itself is against rugby forum charter, so it was Killer Mike - Reagan!

I like that!! I like the older sounding stuff...as dylan moran put it "I want to get home with my downies"!!

mfceiling · 27-01-2015 11:37PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

Where do you want to heading musically now?

I don't really know tbh...as I say, i liked the 2 I posted. Probably the older stuff with decent lyrics. I wouldn't be interested in hearing about how many diamonds you've got, or how many mercedes you have or how you like your bitches!!

.ak · 27-01-2015 11:48PM

Black sheep.

CatFromHue · 28-01-2015 12:43AM

mfceiling wrote: »

I wouldn't be interested in hearing about how many diamonds you've got, or how many mercedes you have or how you like your bitches!!

Don't mean to be a dick but I don't tell randomers on the internet that stuff.

Hope it's not awkward now

:pac:

Anyway Outcast have some pretty good songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaFygeknae8

as does Kanye West (this is him way back at the start of his career with Dilated People)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLnWgKeM0c

The College Dropout album is pretty pretty good too

Not usre if this is pop though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAfFfqiYLp0

dregin · 28-01-2015 07:24AM

mfceiling wrote: »

I don't really know tbh...as I say, i liked the 2 I posted. Probably the older stuff with decent lyrics. I wouldn't be interested in hearing about how many diamonds you've got, or how many mercedes you have or how you like your bitches!!

I don't like much rap much at all, but stuff like Sleaford Mods isn't bad. I remember liking Ugly Duckling a long time ago too.

dregin · 28-01-2015 07:26AM

Also Scroobius Pip's solo stuff. Some of his stuff with Dan Let Sac is good, but on the whole, I much prefer his solo material.

dregin · 28-01-2015 07:33AM

Suicde Bid arent exclusively rap, but are close to it in parts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGiOOnh3Xd4

Wang King · 28-01-2015 08:24AM

NWA, Ice T, Public Enemy, Ice Cube....after that, rap died for me

irishbucsfan · 28-01-2015 08:31AM

Relevant to recent web browser discussion, https://vivaldi.com

The Ex-CEO of Opera is unhappy with how the development of that project is going and has released his own. Interesting.

Journeyman_1 · 28-01-2015 08:37AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Relevant to recent web browser discussion, https://vivaldi.com

The Ex-CEO of Opera is unhappy with how the development of that project is going and has released his own. Interesting.

I read that as Relevant xkcd and was bitterly disappointed

irishbucsfan · 28-01-2015 08:39AM

Journeyman_1 wrote: »

I read that as Relevant xkcd and was bitterly disappointed

Relevant, http://xkcd.com/934/

dregin · 28-01-2015 08:59AM

Switched to Firefox for Android on the Nexus 7 after that discussion and although first impressions were decent, it's proving to be a bit glitchy. Fast scrolling is laggy as hell. Clicking buttons on boards is pretty damn difficult. Text input is somehow more erratic in Firefox than Chrome even though they use the same keyboard... Will stick it out for now.

justsomebloke · 28-01-2015 09:09AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiOcVWQY2bc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU3RbT2OoOo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9B7rxtxZs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeN9c2GYJkk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgLT7aXXw9M

justsomebloke · 28-01-2015 09:19AM

dregin · 28-01-2015 09:21AM

What's the difference between rap and hip hop? I think I'm confusing the two... is there one?

irishbucsfan · 28-01-2015 09:29AM

dregin wrote: »

What's the difference between rap and hip hop? I think I'm confusing the two... is there one?

The two are closely connected but in reality rapping is exactly what you think it is (the act of rapping) while hip hop is the culture that surrounded it, starting in the states and spreading abroad. Rapping is one of the "elements" of hip hop, the others are explained here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop#Culture

.ak · 28-01-2015 09:35AM

dregin wrote: »

What's the difference between rap and hip hop? I think I'm confusing the two... is there one?

Yeah absolutely. There's also different genres of hip hop. Generally hip hop emerged during the time rock was becoming a mainstream and a lot of people think there's a massive element of rock to hip-hip, but a lot of the artists at the time had backgrounds in the funk movement, and you should know, the punk movement too in terms of producers and sample artists. The best hip hop examples would be from guys like Grandmaster Flash, Black Sheep, Public Enemy (with a huge rock influence), A Tribe Called Quest, Beastie Boys and Run-DMC tapped the mainstream market with something that became household hip-hip.

Rap is very much a modern thing, for me it's a completely different thing, with the actual production and musical elements being second to everything else. There were guys back in the 80s, like LL Cool J that definitely seemed to spur a movement that rhymed and rapped about violence. That sort of thing wasn't really what hiphop was about, but it took off, and now most rap songs have gang or crime themes..

There are a few modern day hiphop groups going, in the classic terms anyway, I suppose you could call Outkast hiphop for example.

b.gud · 28-01-2015 09:35AM

Alot of the best Hip hop came from the late 80s and early 90s, here's a few that I like

Nas It ain't hard to tell

A.D.O.R. - Let it all hang out

GangStarr - A Jazz thing

Outkast - Rosa Parks (this is late 90s but still great)

Other good acts from this era would be De La Soul, Jungle Brotheres, Big Daddy Kane, And Def agree with justsomebloke on the Pete Rock and CL Smooth
You could also check out Notorious Bigs 1st album ready to die the 1st Ghostface Killah album, though they may be a bit too gangsta rap for what you're looking for.

In terms of more modern ones these are quite good ones, I think that a lot of people will sleep (bonus points for correct use of slang

) on the Mark Ronson and Mystikal one but it's really top notch

Brother Ali - Take Me Home

Jon Wayne - The Come Up

Murs & 9th Wonder - The Pain

Mark Ronson ft Mystikal - Feel Right

More modern acts to check out Ugly Duckling, People under the stairs, Madvillain, Little Brother
Oh and Black Eyed Peas used to be good proof:

Teferi · 28-01-2015 10:02AM

I've been really enjoying Scroobius Pip for the last while and I found this little gem recently.

.ak · 28-01-2015 10:15AM

Yoda is a seriously good sample man. Seen him do his live show and it's seriously impressive.

28-01-2015 10:25AM

I don't get the vast majority of rap. I don't really listen to lyrics, and thats what rap seems to be all about. If you don't listen to the lyrics, its usually a mediocre beat with some guy just talking over it...

b.gud · 28-01-2015 10:34AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't get the vast majority of rap. I don't really listen to the vast majority of lyrics, and thats what rap seams to be all about. If you don't listen to the lyrics, its usually a mediocre beat with some guy just talking over it...

Here's a couple of ones that you might like that have a bit more complex beats and no lyrics

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