Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Read Mod Warning in OP 7/1/15

The Moldy Gowl · 28-01-2015 12:01AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Makes me a little ill inside when I think that Fergie pubically said we wouldn't pay the £5m agent fees for Hazard yet were happy to do it for Bebe and then spent another £10m on Zaha.

when you see other deals such as 90k a week sanctioned for Ashley Young, a 5 year contract for Nani and Valenappeayou'd wonder what the f*ck is going on in our club

I think that was just fergie saving face. Chelsea had just won the champions leauge. Was trying to big up utd with the not the United way ****e and Chelsea don't care about money rhetoric

He could hardly say he wanted to go to Chelsea. If hazard really wanted to come here and the only stumbling block was the agent fees, why not fire his agent?

glued · 28-01-2015 12:02AM

squadro wrote: »

And the carlow crew

Don't you mean Carlah?

RobertKK · 28-01-2015 01:20AM

https://twitter.com/Sport_Witness/status/560147277529235456

Seems United are indeed interested in Laporte.

28-01-2015 02:39AM

I'm sure a young player from Bilbao will be easy to sign and cheap to boot.

The Moldy Gowl · 28-01-2015 07:43AM

I can't take this rumours seriously so late in the window. Surely they would have made contact last month?

glued · 28-01-2015 07:49AM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I can't take this rumours seriously so late in the window. Surely they would have made contact lady month?

Not if van Gaal only received his 'warchest' in the past few days...

The Moldy Gowl · 28-01-2015 07:51AM

glued wrote: »

Not if van Gaal only received his 'warchest' in the past few days...

And the transfer summit mid way through January

KH25 · 28-01-2015 09:06AM

I'll be very surprised if we sign a defender this window. Or anyone at all other than valdes.

Mitch Connor · 28-01-2015 09:29AM

KH25 wrote: »

I'll be very surprised if we sign a defender this window. Or anyone at all other than valdes.

Same here - too late for any moves of significance to be made.

Bye bye champions league for another season, and possibly a long time. Well don LVG, Woodward.

The Moldy Gowl · 28-01-2015 09:33AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Same here - too late for any moves of significance to be made.

Bye bye champions league for another season, and possibly a long time. Well don LVG, Woodward.

Pick up your toys.

Mantis Toboggan · 28-01-2015 09:34AM

Atleast we got Valdes. He could be crucial if DDG has a couple of dodgy games.

Mitch Connor · 28-01-2015 09:39AM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Pick up your toys.

Feck off.

The current squad is not good enough, and we won't qualify for the CL because of it.

We are horribly weak in defence, and needed to do something about it.

Jones, Smalling, Evans are not proving good enough and we have had to play Valencia at right back far too often. These issues needed to be rectified, and they have not been.

It was not acceptable how we left the defence in the summer and it is unacceptable now, too.

Whatsisname · 28-01-2015 09:42AM

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Atleast we got Valdes. He could be crucial if DDG has a couple of dodgy games.

Worst thing we could do is drop him after a few mistakes. The whole DDG/Lindegaard swap around a few years ago was ridiculous.

Your Airbag · 28-01-2015 09:46AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Same here - too late for any moves of significance to be made.

Bye bye champions league for another season, and possibly a long time. Well don LVG, Woodward.

Oh god, not this crap again. Every window I swear.

Hulk Hands · 28-01-2015 09:48AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Feck off.

The current squad is not good enough, and we won't qualify for the CL because of it.

We are horribly weak in defence, and needed to do something about it.

Jones, Smalling, Evans are not proving good enough and we have had to play Valencia at right back far too often. These issues needed to be rectified, and they have not been.

It was not acceptable how we left the defence in the summer and it is unacceptable now, too.

The current squad is easily good enough for top 4. We are top 4 at the moment after a ridiculous run of injuries, we should get there comfortably with any sort of normal luck along the way.

I'd say that as United fans we should be hoping for far more, that simply making Champions League isnt good enough and in that sense i hope we strengthen. But if top 4 is simply the aim this year, then it'll be the players and LVG's fault if we dont get there. The squad provided by Woodword and the board is easily good enough to achieve that task

Lord TSC · 28-01-2015 09:54AM

Top 4 should be well possible after the investment in the summer, and Woodward will not be getting any blame from the majority of fans imo. The obsession with attacking him annoys me.

It was said weeks ago we wouldn't be signing any stop gap players, and it would appear there's a major view towards the summer now, when the Adidas deal kicks in. As for this window, I still think we'll get at least one player. I think we're probably looking to see who is available that would be a long term first choice prospect, rather than a quick fix, and there won't be a signing for the sake of a signing...

bucketybuck · 28-01-2015 09:55AM

Hulk Hands wrote: »

The current squad is easily good enough for top 4.

I agree. So why is it performing so poorly?

bangkok · 28-01-2015 09:56AM

zaha cost united 10m, Cardiff paid Utd 1.5m loan fee last year and paid his entire 35k a week wages, this year palace paid a 3m loan fee for the season and are paying his wages, that's 4.5m.

I presume palace will be interested in re signing him come the summer as he is doing well for them, I cant see united selling for anything less than 7m, so we will actually make profit on him

bangkok · 28-01-2015 09:56AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

I agree. So why is it performing so poorly?

cowboys ted, there a bunch of cowboys

Mitch Connor · 28-01-2015 09:57AM

Our defence is not good enough to get us top 4 imo. The team being made overly defensive to compensate of the lack of quality at the back is hindering us going forward (as well as stupid, imo, tactical decisions). We won't finish top four. Arsenal and probably Liverpool will take 3rd and 4th spot.

Lord TSC · 28-01-2015 09:58AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

I agree. So why is it performing so poorly?

IMO, there is still a core group of players entrenched in the ways of old, and a lack of wingers capable of doing a creative job. Getting rid of them is nearly as important as bringing in new ones....

Mantis Toboggan · 28-01-2015 10:01AM

If the manager actually played the defenders in their actual positions then we would have a much better idea as to who's good enough or not. Jones and Evans have been terrible this season, but they've mostly played in a back 3 that they haven't played much of in their careers.

Your Airbag · 28-01-2015 10:02AM

Hulk Hands wrote: »

The current squad is easily good enough for top 4. We are top 4 at the moment after a ridiculous run of injuries, we should get there comfortably with any sort of normal luck along the way.

I'd say that as United fans we should be hoping for far more, that simply making Champions League isnt good enough and in that sense i hope we strengthen. But if top 4 is simply the aim this year, then it'll be the players and LVG's fault if we dont get there. The squad provided by Woodword and the board is easily good enough to achieve that task

Exactly. Woodward outdone himself in all honestly during the summer. ADM, Falcao, Blind, Shaw, Herrera and Rojo.

There are two players in that list that can play CB btw and two superstars. Yet we have to listen to well done Woody?

Woodward has shown himself more than capable of getting in top players and targets like Blind and Rojo that LVG would have wanted.
If we are not signing defenders its down to the manager not pointing out his targets or club and agent difficulties.

Do you honestly think Woodward is sitting on his arse or too incompitent to get a deal done still, after the summer? Really people?

If we don't make top four its down to a stubborn manager playing a poor system and an injury ravaged defense.

Alas we get this moaning every window. You'd think patience would have been learned as we all know a lot happens late in the window but here we are again with the knives out.

Your Airbag · 28-01-2015 10:03AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

I agree. So why is it performing so poorly?

5-3-2 and the worst injury struck defense in the EPL.

bangkok · 28-01-2015 10:08AM

http://www.thesportbible.com/pictures/manchester-united-s-wages-revealed

:eek:

RobertKK · 28-01-2015 10:10AM

Woodward has been one of our best signings. We may all have joked and kinda complained when we were signing more sponsors and no sign of players being signed when Moyes took over.
But it is clear he is not afraid to spend the cash, I can only see him increasing sponsor revenue, which means United are in a very strong position off the pitch, we just need what is happening on the pitch to be as good as the work done by Woodward.

Next summer will be again very exciting in my opinion, I don't think United should buy a player they don't really want in this window, just to sign a player. One could argue this is why we spent so much on Zaha and now by the looks of it, selling him back at a much lower price.

I think the two main defenders LVG wants are Hummels and Laporte. Hummels not moving now, but it was interesting how he didn't rule out moving in the future.
Laporte is £31 million so we have to wait and see if his buyout clause is activated, if he is open to a United move, I say make it happen, there is a lot of chatter his future is either at United or Real Madrid.

The Moldy Gowl · 28-01-2015 10:12AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Our defence is not good enough to get us top 4 imo. The team being made overly defensive to compensate of the lack of quality at the back is hindering us going forward (as well as stupid, imo, tactical decisions). We won't finish top four. Arsenal and probably Liverpool will take 3rd and 4th spot.

I wouldnt call it a stupid tactical discussion.

We are over stocked in attacking quality and understocked in defensive quality. This is the consequence of having poor defenders, we need to compensate.

It's a simple tactical decision to blunt our attack to make our defense better. The tactic is working. You're right in saying the defense isn't good enough. Like it or lump it the tactic is working. A mentality of we will score more than you is stupid.

I don't think lvg cares that it is pissing off fans and pundits. We have conceded one of the fewest amounts of goals in the league. Thank god for de gea r we would be seeing 10 at the back

RobertKK · 28-01-2015 10:15AM

bangkok wrote: »

http://www.thesportbible.com/pictures/manchester-united-s-wages-revealed

:eek:

Some of them don't play hardly any games and the money they get.

The Moldy Gowl · 28-01-2015 10:17AM

bangkok wrote: »

http://www.thesportbible.com/pictures/manchester-united-s-wages-revealed

:eek:

Yeah. The sports bible get access to confidential information.

Will I Amnt · 28-01-2015 10:17AM

Man United wages revealed... by somebody... that's probably guessing...

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