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Homeland Season 4 *Spoilers*

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    #302
    Kirby
    Registered Users Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    arse..biscuits wrote: »
    Anyone else reminded of the penultimate episode of Season 4 of Breaking Bad?

    Quinn better call Saul............

    Yeah. That works on several levels. :D


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    #303
    arse..biscuits
    Registered Users Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭arse..biscuits


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    End times.


    Think bomb planted for main bad guy, man with detonator watching from across a street on top of a building, doesn't go according to plan.


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    #304
    Rosy Posy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    arse..biscuits wrote: »
    End times.


    Think bomb planted for main bad guy, man with detonator watching from across a street on top of a building, doesn't go according to plan.

    Yes! Down to the shifty eyes looking out from under the brim of a hat and Gus/Haqquani's arrogant posturing!


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    #305
    fisgon
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    That's one scary Brody-doppelganger baby!


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    #306
    Mr E
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    After a few weeks of ramping up and ramping up and ramping up, that was an odd way to end the season. I think its purpose was laying the groundwork for season 5, and served as the midpoint in the Haqqani story....

    Very good episode, though a little unexpected.


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    #307
    wirelessdude01
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    A little underwhelmed after that episode.

    Carrie is quite literally going to lose the plot again.


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    #308
    Alfred Borden
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    Weak final episode but wont detract from one of the best seasons of tv in a while. Seems set up well for next season, hopefully they can keep these high standards up now.


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    #309
    lukin
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    They did the one thing I didn't want them to do:ended the season on a cliffhanger. I think Quinn will make it back alive though; if they start season five with him getting killed then a lot of people will switch off. He has really established himself this season and it would be mad to get rid of him. There is still great mileage left in his character, unlike Brody as when they got rid of him as there was nowhere left for him to go.
    The storyline with Carrie and her mother was just filler and served no purpose, I found it boring. Also I am kind of disappointed that Carrie and Quinn are now an item, it seems kind of predictable and lame. It's also a bit of a downer that Haqqani got away scot-free as from the start the whole season was based around taking him out. Although maybe it was more realistic that he did get away as that sort of thing probably happens all the time in the war on terror;the US couldn't kill him so instead they had to do a deal with him to get him to disappear. It certainly makes you think.
    I liked the part where Da Adal said to Saul that Haqqani had agreed not to harbour terrorists. Saul says "He's the f****n' terrrorist". Dar Adal replies "Is he?"


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    #310
    dark crystal
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    That was...disappointing. Feels like last week's episode would have been a much better season finale, tbh. I kept hoping that big end moment would come, but it just fizzled out.

    It was a great season, however and I'll be back for the next one. I just hope they don't plan on killing off Quinn with the Carrie curse!


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    #311
    Fred Swanson
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    #312
    lukin
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    By the way, Washington to Missouri is nearly a thousand miles so if Carrie was going to drive there (with a baby) I can only think she is an even bigger fruitcake than I thought.


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    #313
    alwald
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    what was on the memory card that Dar Adal gave to Saul?


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    #314
    Fred Swanson
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    #315
    lukin
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    alwald wrote: »
    what was on the memory card that Dar Adal gave to Saul?

    A video recording of Saul that Haqqani made while holding him captive. I don't recall seeing this during the season at all though.


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    #316
    MOH
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    I was a bit torn on this. Kept thinking it was going to be slow for about two thirds and ramp up a bit, but never really did. Was expecting Quinn's to die in a fiery cliche explosion or something, at least that didn't happen.

    But on the other hand, it did show Carrie trying to have a normal life and failing miserably. The whole bit with the mother seemed a bit too drawn out, but it did give some background into why she's so messed up. Although might have been more useful to have seen some of that in an earlier season, maybe instead of the awful Dana side story.

    And it did provide a better explanation for Dar Adal talking to Haqqani than I was expecting
    alwald wrote: »
    what was on the memory card that Dar Adal gave to Saul?
    lukin wrote: »
    A video recording of Saul that Haqqani made while holding him captive. I don't recall seeing this during the season at all though.

    Didn't everyone in the embassy see a video of Saul at one point? It's in the recap at the start. if it hadn't been already released then presumably even the fact that Haqqani had captured the former head of the CIA would be pretty damaging to the Americans, let alone that they'd negotiated and released 5 terrorists to get him back.

    I'm assuming the "show of good faith" that Dar Adal said was also on the card was the locations of the other terrorists that Quinn's black ops team is off to kill.

    Haqqani gets rid of some rivals; the US saves face and gets to tick off some other targets; Pakistani Audrey Tautou gets a big promotion. Everyone's a winner.


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    #317
    lukin
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    MOH wrote: »

    Didn't everyone in the embassy see a video of Saul at one point? It's in the recap at the start. if it hadn't been already released then presumably even the fact that Haqqani had captured the former head of the CIA would be pretty damaging to the Americans, let alone that they'd negotiated and released 5 terrorists to get him back.

    I thought it was a video we hadn't seen before with Saul being forced to criticise the US or something. It now seems the video was the one you are referring to (the one that the Taliban showed to prove they had captured Saul).
    I'd imagine it would be pretty hard to keep something like that quiet (the Taliban capturing a former head of the CIA) but this is TV-land I suppose.


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    #318
    qwabercd
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    Great series but my god that finale was a let down, so much filler and no tension at all compared to what was an action packed series.


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    #319
    nxbyveromdwjpg
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    Boring episode


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    #320
    MagicMarker
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    Can't believe that was a finale. It was awful, i was half expecting Quinn and Cary to meet at the top of the empire state building.

    I think those middle 4 episodes saved the season, other than that it was quite ordinary.


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    #321
    jArgHA
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    WTF... After most of the season pumping us up as each episode went by, I was expecting the Haqqani story to be resolved and the season to end on a high, instead we got about seventeen million shots of Carrie and her baby.

    I was getting seriously worried for Quinn once he started making friends with Carrie's baby too - make him into an even nicer guy to the audience right before killing him off - thankfully that didn't happen, and I'm sure he will prevail in Syria / Iraq (it's probably a given that Season 5 will take off immediately from where this season ended).

    Overall I was happy with the season - it was a massive improvement on Season 2/3 but can't help but feel meh after that mediocre finale.


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    #322
    honeybear
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    As a Quinn fan, I think he might be written out of the next season:(


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    #323
    Ageyev
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    I thought last week's episode ended on a silly note. Like, Khan just appears and stop Carrie from shooting Haqqani because he saw Dar Adal in his car. I don't recall Khan and Dar interacting before so how would he know him amd why was Carrie going to try to shoot Haqqani after talking Quinn down? She would've been lynched.

    The finale was very banal and mundane. I guess this means Dar Adal has turned Haqqani or is in some way working with him but I don't find this very enticing for S5 tbh.


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    #324
    Shane St.
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    Pretty meh finale. Think they should wrap it up next year and not have it drag on too long


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    #325
    tvnutz
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    I thought this season was a great season and a massive improvement on the crapfest of last season, but that finale! jaysus, shocking stuff. Focus on the characters me hole. Last week's episode would have been a great finale, this was just rubbish


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    #326
    lukin
    Registered Users Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭lukin


    Ageyev wrote: »
    I thought last week's episode ended on a silly note. Like, Khan just appears and stop Carrie from shooting Haqqani because he saw Dar Adal in his car. I don't recall Khan and Dar interacting before so how would he know him
    Khan probably met him before, the writers thought they didn't need to show that I suppose.
    Ageyev wrote: »

    amd why was Carrie going to try to shoot Haqqani after talking Quinn down? She would've been lynched.
    'cause she's nuts.
    Ageyev wrote: »
    The finale was very banal and mundane. I guess this means Dar Adal has turned Haqqani or is in some way working with him but I don't find this very enticing for S5 tbh.
    Maybe you didn't see the final episode but this was explained in that.


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    #327
    the_monkey
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    Drivel ...


    absolute drivel ..


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    #328
    EoghanIRL
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    Season 4 was good . However the finale was terrible .


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    #329
    StickyMcGinty
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    Totally agree with the general sentiment on this thread about the finale - boring and far too much Mathison mother / baby / sister drama

    However, was happy Quinn and Carrie finally got it on, long overdue

    Best moment of the season for me was when Aayan gets the bullet in Ep 6..... honestly didnt see that one coming


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    #330
    Backstreet Moyes
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    I think it's safe to say Quinn's team are not meant to come back. For the sake of the show i hope he does because he is the only interesting character left in the show.


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    #331
    Hyzepher
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    Quinn will probably be captured - all other members of the team dead.

    Carrie to campaign for his rescue.

    5 years later Quinn comes home - does a Brody and instant reset lol


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