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**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

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  • #2852
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    So its not peaceful then, no?


    No one has an issue with peaceful protesting.

    Real my comment it's more factual than yours.

    You are getting worse at this. I recall you saying you raised alot of valuable posts over the course if this thread.

    I have yet to read one.


  • #2853
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    I didn't say they did. Read it again. The construction of the sentence is correct. They blocked the car for 2 hours. They also banged on the car.


    Is that peaceful?

    Yes. Yes it is entirely


  • #2854
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    I didn't say they did. Read it again. The construction of the sentence is correct. They blocked the car for 2 hours. They also banged on the car.


    Is that peaceful?

    Where was the riot squad for the farmers around the country blocking meat processors or farmers blocking the entrance to this factories not peaceful?


    I think it is. So why the double standards of policing?


  • #2855
    LionelNashe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭LionelNashe


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    eug87 wrote: »
    Absolutely agree there,
    Brain hayes was speaking on RTE few weeks ago about private investment to help fund Irish water down the road.
    That with EU anti competition laws that IW will breach it be only a matter of time before its sold of for profits.
    Interesting article here about UK water rates
    http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/feb/09/rising-water-bills-profits

    That is interesting - a 64% increase in the UK in 10 years, and not the 1000% that posters on this thread are claiming will happen here.


  • #2856
    Wurly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭Wurly


    I agree with metered water charges
    Phoebas wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/two-arrested-in-jobstown-as-chaos-ensues-following-protests-at-tanaistes-visit-30747541.html

    I'm sorry but it doesn't take a genius to figure out that that photo of the brick throwing is photoshopped. Look closely!


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  • #2857
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    LionelNashe wrote: »
    That is interesting - a 64% increase in the UK in 10 years, and not the 1000% that posters on this thread are claiming will happen here.

    Who claimed 1000%? Show me on a post.

    How is that interesting?


  • #2858
    Nodster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Nodster


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    I wonder if the Minister for Education went to the Graduation would yesterday's reaction of been the same? Sending Bruton was simply asking for trouble.


  • #2859
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    listermint wrote: »
    The fact you call it medicine shows the level of engagement you have on the issues at hand.


    Terrible

    Thanks. Unfortunately there is still quite a cohort still not at your or my level.
    It is what is good for us, but because the taste isn't nice they are having a tantrum. And a game has to be played to bring them along for their own good.


  • #2860
    eug87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭eug87


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    LionelNashe wrote: »
    That is interesting - a 64% increase in the UK in 10 years, and not the 1000% that posters on this thread are claiming will happen here.

    Read the article again its a 82% increase in 10 years.
    £550 pounds so just shy of 700 euro per year.


  • #2861
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Nodster wrote: »
    I wonder if the Minister for Education went to the Graduation would yesterday's reaction of been the same? Sending Bruton was simply asking for trouble.

    It was pr planned. That much is fact. Same as endas. They have paid advisory telling them what to do next. Its all a game to them.

    All they got out of it was some tool with a brick.

    And joan inconvenienced for two hours


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  • #2862
    freddiek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭freddiek


    it will end up as a positive experience for Burton.

    She has now experienced the sense of alienation, frustration, anger and powerlessness of the people of Jobstown and Tallaght and beyond. Government Ministers don't live in these areas and deliberately avoid them.

    she can now take what she has learned back to the Cabinet table and communicate it to her colleagues who i'm sure are as equally divorced from reality.

    The country will benefit as a result from Burton being discomfited in the back of a warm Ministerial car for a couple of hours.


  • #2863
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    listermint wrote: »
    Yes. Yes it is entirely

    Is hitting the Tanaiste with a missile (3m) peaceful?


  • #2864
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    Banjo String wrote: »
    I don't vote for his particular party either, but he is proving to be a TD who is clearly working on behalf of the people who elected him, and listening to them.

    It has been pointed out by others that he's not from the area, I dont get the point or relevance of that though.

    He's a member of Dáil Éireann .
    Or an opportunist who is using the water issue to exploit the more vulnerable voters in society to get himself into the Fail and further a political career.


  • #2865
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,634 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Nodster wrote: »
    I wonder if the Minister for Education went to the Graduation would yesterday's reaction of been the same? Sending Bruton was simply asking for trouble.

    It wouldn't matter who it was. Paul Murphy is running the show in Dublin South West now and woe betide any austerity person who dares to show up.


  • #2866
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    listermint wrote: »
    Yes. Yes it is entirely

    So if I do it to you in your car, it's fine and peaceful?

    I somehow doubt you'd agree at the time


  • #2867
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    Is hitting the Tanaiste with a missile (3m) peaceful?

    Some individual throws and egg and you use government speak to call it a missile.


    The rest of the protest was peaceful or shall we not talk about the sit down which was pretty much the entirety of the protest.


    No because that doesn't fit your Agenda phoebo.

    Which you have.

    Let's not talk about the hundreds of thousands on the streets peacefully marching.

    Doesn't make phoebo headlines. Not fitting the agenda


  • #2868
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    So if I do it to you in your car, it's fine and peaceful?

    I somehow doubt you'd agree at the time

    I'm not paid vast money's by you to implement policies that I promised you I would implement.

    If however I was paid by you and not delivering on any of the promises I made to you to get the job I'd expect you to be upset and some reaction. Because I have a level of intelligence.

    Which your arguments do not.


  • #2869
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    listermint wrote: »
    Where was the riot squad for the farmers around the country blocking meat processors or farmers blocking the entrance to this factories not peaceful?


    I think it is. So why the double standards of policing?

    I drove by the farmers in clones the other day. No issue, all in at the side of the road, blocking no traffic. Could I have driven unhindered down the road in jobstown yesterday? I didn't see any video of people being harassed that work in the meat factories or their cars being hit.


  • #2870
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Streetwalker wrote: »
    The brick thrower is a scumbag that went too far. All the other peaceful protesters are patriots of this great nation who are prepared to stand up for what is right and just.

    I don't think you know what a patriot is.


  • #2871
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,634 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    When the election comes around I expect that some candidates will be followed round by people shouting slogans and sticking cameras in their faces. This is the sort of agitprop which Paul Murphy will be able to stir up.

    Joan Burton was hounded out of Dundalk before and not allowed to speak at the employment event she was meant to launch. Paul Murphy and his communist friends are not interested in democracy or free speech. Anyone who is not on message will be hounded out.


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  • #2872
    LionelNashe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭LionelNashe


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    eug87 wrote: »
    Read the article again its a 82% increase in 10 years.
    £550 pounds so just shy of 700 euro per year.

    It says "up to 82%", but it also says the average is 64%. Ask somebody to read it to you again.


  • #2873
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    I drove by the farmers in clones the other day. No issue, all in at the side of the road, blocking no traffic. Could I have driven unhindered down the road in jobstown yesterday? I didn't see any video of people being harassed that work in the meat factories or their cars being hit.

    They blocked deliveries. You clearly dont have a grasp of their issue or what they did yo address it. The result of their protest was discussion and compromise.

    Which is what's happening right now that IW. You should be thinking your neighbours for looking after the country for you. They are doing a task you won't. Its great to hurl from the ditch.


  • #2874
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    So we're all clear now.

    Apart from throwing the brick at the Gardai and rocking the car and throwing an egg at the Tanaiste, it was a completely peaceful protest ;)


  • #2875
    Streetwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    I agree with metered water charges
    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I don't think you know what a patriot is.

    Oh I think I do. It may be different than your view but in this nation that's allowed. We are s free democracy after all right?


  • #2876
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    I agree with metered water charges
    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    When the election comes around I expect that some candidates will be followed round by people shouting slogans and sticking cameras in their faces. This is the sort of agitprop which Paul Murphy will be able to stir up.

    Joan Burton was hounded out of Dundalk before and not allowed to speak at the employment event she was meant to launch. Paul Murphy and his communist friends are not interested in democracy or free speech. Anyone who is not on message will be hounded out.

    So anyone who supports Murphy is a communist? Right ok


  • #2877
    Highflyer13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Highflyer13


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    Is hitting the Tanaiste with a missile (3m) peaceful?

    I'd really have to question the decision to let her walk into that crowd given the level of anger out there. That was a wake up call for sure.


  • #2878
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    I agree with metered water charges
    Phoebas wrote: »
    So we're all clear now.

    Apart from throwing the brick at the Gardai and rocking the car and throwing an egg at the Tanaiste, it was a completely peaceful protest ;)

    3 isolated incidents in a considerably large crowd, not exactly worthy of hysterics.


  • #2879
    papu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Streetwalker wrote: »
    Oh I think I do. It may be different than your view but in this nation that's allowed. We are s free democracy after all right?

    Sure you can have an opinion , doesn't mean its correct though .


  • #2880
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    When the election comes around I expect that some candidates will be followed round by people shouting slogans and sticking cameras in their faces. This is the sort of agitprop which Paul Murphy will be able to stir up.

    Joan Burton was hounded out of Dundalk before and not allowed to speak at the employment event she was meant to launch. Paul Murphy and his communist friends are not interested in democracy or free speech. Anyone who is not on message will be hounded out.

    Joan has very little knowledge of the subjecg matter. I don't think she should be in government tbh. Her skillset is poor and she has Been shown and time and time again to just be good for poor sound bites.

    Why would it suprise you that people can't take her and her labour party seriously on employment.

    Id have no interest in listening to her soundbites which have not bearing in reality.

    What makes you think people should be forced to listen to her especially given her performance in government and the roll back on everything labour stands for and their mandate for government.


    Your a soundbite man yourself too


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  • #2881
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    So we're all clear now.

    Apart from throwing the brick at the Gardai and rocking the car and throwing an egg at the Tanaiste, it was a completely peaceful protest ;)

    Missile...


    Don't let the mask slip.


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