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**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

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  • #692
    Gentleman Off The Pitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Gentleman Off The Pitch


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Irrespective of the many different opinions people have of paying for water or the government's reasons for introducing water charges, how anyone can come on here and repeatedly defend Irish Water itself is absoulely beyond me

    It stinks, from its inception, to how it was staffed, to how it has gone about its business, the whole thing is rotten.


  • #693
    Creative Juices
    Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭Creative Juices


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Its the figures and accuracy of same you comment on rather than the principle... wow.....

    You know they are losing when they are ignoring the main point. :)

    You can just imagine Pheobe watching every single post looking for a mistake somewhere, sad really.


  • #694
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Gentleman Off The Pitch wrote: »
    Irrespective of the many different opinions people have of paying for water or the government's reasons for introducing water charges, how anyone can come on here and repeatedly defend Irish Water itself is absoulely beyond me

    It stinks, from its inception, to how it was staffed, to how it has gone about its business, the whole thing is rotten.

    Stinking and rotten is good in the pro water tax mind.


  • #695
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭Daith


    Phoebas wrote: »
    Unless they're on an average of €333k a year, that figure is bull****.

    Really? 12 years plus pension and other benefits? You don't think it couldn't approach a fairly high figure?


  • #696
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Its the figures and accuracy of same you comment on rather than the principle... wow.....
    Tell me about it. There's no room for good old fashioned actual facts in a lot of the posts around here.


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  • #697
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Gentleman Off The Pitch wrote: »
    Irrespective of the many different opinions people have of paying for water or the government's reasons for introducing water charges, how anyone can come on here and repeatedly defend Irish Water itself is absoulely beyond me

    It stinks, from its inception, to how it was staffed, to how it has gone about its business, the whole thing is rotten.

    Im pretty sure at least one poster is in or is closely linked to FG so its folk minding their own here on boards as in IW.
    I have my means!:D


  • #698
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    Tell me about it. There's no room for good old fashioned actual facts in a lot of the posts around here.

    Grand.
    Perhaps you could tell me how much a family of 2 adults and 2 children under 18 will pay per year, basic, without going over their allowance?


  • #699
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Phoebas wrote: »
    Tell me about it. There's no room for good old fashioned actual facts in a lot of the posts around here.

    He stated a fact but may be out in his maths.
    So...His maths was wrong...lets agree on that.
    Now deal with the other part re local authority staff being given IW jobs with no actual function...go on...


  • #700
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    So what did I miss since yesterday? Are the pro-IW posters still ignoring all the evidence of cronyism?


  • #701
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Im pretty sure at least one poster is in or is closely linked to FG so its folk minding their own here on boards as in IW.
    I have my means!:D

    I know of one who does some work for them.
    Was mentioned on a previous thread.


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  • #702
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Red Pepper wrote: »
    So what did I miss since yesterday? Are the pro-IW posters still ignoring all the evidence of cronyism?

    Looks that way, they're making up stories of Gardai and IW workers being assaulted instead, twisting a high court judge's words to suit that story.


  • #703
    Creative Juices
    Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭Creative Juices


    Gentleman Off The Pitch wrote: »
    Irrespective of the many different opinions people have of paying for water or the government's reasons for introducing water charges, how anyone can come on here and repeatedly defend Irish Water itself is absoulely beyond me
    .

    Stockholm Syndrome, it's the only possible explanation beyond utter stupidity (or they are in the pay of FG/Lab/IW)


  • #704
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    So what did I miss since yesterday?

    You didn't miss much:
    Denis O'Brien now owns Irish Water and is paying the staff an average of €333k :D


  • #705
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I know of one who does some work for them.
    Was mentioned on a previous thread.

    Ching ching. The final piece of the jig saw. DUNDALKS ONLY TRUE TD....COME ON DOWN


  • #706
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Phoebas wrote: »
    You didn't miss much:
    Denis O'Brien now owns Irish Water and is paying the staff an average of €333k :D

    And Hubert Kearns is still a professional worthy of his modest wage...... Aint that right Phoebas.


  • #707
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Ching ching. The final piece of the jig saw. DUNDALKS ONLY TRUE TD....COME ON DOWN

    No. He's based in the city.


  • #708
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Ching ching. The final piece of the jig saw. DUNDALKS ONLY TRUE TD....COME ON DOWN

    Here, don't leave me hanging..
    What's this about?


  • #709
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    If cash is such an issue then whats with the 6 figure wages to failed county managers who have 'retired', under performance bonuses, car allowances. gyms etc.
    Start there. have a word with those in the know. i reckon you have the means.
    Nice of you to acknowledge that its not fair though. We're getting somewhere with you guys...you are one of 'you guys' arent you?
    tayto lover wrote: »
    I know of one who does some work for them.
    Was mentioned on a previous thread.

    if at first you don't succeed, throw dirt and hope it sticks.


  • #710
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    tayto lover wrote: »
    No. He's based in the city.

    Ah. Thats THE OTHER ONE!
    The one ive rumbled is definitely Dundalk. re-regs are easy!!!


  • #711
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    You didn't miss much:
    Denis O'Brien now owns Irish Water and is paying the staff an average of €333k :D

    Had a quick look at your past contributions and you're just a pot stirrer with little substance but thanks anyway.


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  • #712
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    if at first you don't succeed, throw dirt and hope it sticks.

    Not dirt. He admitted it on a previous thread. I won't name him anyway but he's very prominent on this thread too.


  • #713
    Stargate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    donvito99 wrote: »
    But it's not your place to decide on how the Guards deploy their resources, it seems however that it is to decide on how they are best wasted.

    I never said it was up to me . So you agrees it's a good thing for armed police to go to peaceful protests now , Yes you said it wasted , wasted resources . Pity the Government don't put as much " resources" into dealing with the dodgy bank dealers and their ilk of this country .


  • #714
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    if at first you don't succeed, throw dirt and hope it sticks.

    Or throw dirt even though I succeeded..In my case:D
    Ps. Its sticking......


  • #715
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Here, don't leave me hanging..
    What's this about?

    Not saying. family stays out of boards.


  • #716
    ROCKMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    Unless they're on an average of €333k a year, that figure is bull****.

    OK i'll play ..

    If we give them an average of 40K a year that will work out at 1.2Bn over 12 years without any bonuses or wage increases been included..

    That's still an unreal sum for what's basically an unneeded work force.


  • #717
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    And Hubert Kearns is still a professional worthy of his modest wage...... Aint that right Phoebas.

    How much is he on? €50k, €333k, €1.8m, €6.4m?
    Does it even matter - sure its just numbers and apparently they don't matter at all! :eek:


  • #718
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    if at first you don't succeed, throw dirt and hope it sticks.

    That's rich.....:D


  • #719
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    OK i'll play ..

    If we give them an average of 40K a year that will work out at 1.2Bn over 12 years without any bonuses or wage increases been included..

    That's still an unreal sum for what's basically an unneeded work force.
    I agree. And to think that the anti- IW people here want them all to be retained in employment by the local authorities in perpetuity.
    At least with IW there's a timescale for getting rid of them.


  • #720
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    I agree. And to think that the anti- IW people here want them all to be retained in employment by the local authorities in perpetuity.
    At least with IW there's a timescale for getting rid of them.

    What timescale is that?


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  • #721
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    That's rich.....:D

    What intrigues me is that that poster seems to think that working for FG is dirty.
    It's some kind of admission :D


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