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More Crap on Adams, Mod Warning in OP.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    K-9 wrote: »
    Your pretty clear on your opinions, SF can do anything including covering up child sexual abuse because FF/FG did the same.
    Ah, I see we've made the jump to actually having covered up pedophilia rather than just an allegation.
    I seem to have missed the bit where you or anybody else proved this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,910 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Now your claim is that An Garda Siochana were colluding with the IRA?
    Were they jealous of the UDR/RUC/paramilitary love in or what?

    Are you claiming they weren'?


    http://www.thejournal.ie/smithwick-tribunal-report-published-1204591-Dec2013/
    Smithwick Tribunal finds gardaí colluded with IRA in murder of RUC officers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,788 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    ah now sure all that pesky 'proof' business would ruin the argument. Gossip is the preferred tact.

    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Ah, I see we've made the jump to actually having covered up pedophilia rather than just an allegation.
    I seem to have missed the bit where you or anybody else proved this.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Ah, I see we've made the jump to actually having covered up pedophilia rather than just an allegation.
    I seem to have missed the bit where you or anybody else proved this.

    No. Just in this thread your allowed lie.

    Any other thread and they would be deleted by a mod and user carded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    K-9 wrote: »
    Your pretty clear on your opinions, SF can do anything including covering up child sexual abuse because FF/FG did the same.

    I've reported that post.
    You've now stated that I believe that it's ok for SF to cover up child abuse.
    You've overstepped the mark here now.
    You should know better, I'll be contacting admin too.

    To everyone else, I probably won't be posting here for a while now. You'll know why.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    K-9 wrote: »
    Probably, the Liam Adams stuff is very off putting.
    Really? So if just one person says "FF, FG and Labour covered up sex abuse" with no other evidence that'd be enough for you to never vote for them again?
    Trusting sort, aren't you?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    No. Just in this thread your allowed lie.

    Any other thread and they would be deleted by a mod and user carded.
    Any other thread an if the poster wasn't a mod of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    I've reported that post.
    You've now stated that I believe that it's ok for SF to cover up child abuse.
    You've overstepped the mark here now.
    You should know better, I'll be contacting admin too.

    To everyone else, I probably won't be posting here for a while now. You'll know why.

    As you have a right to, you'll be a SF martyr yet Ned:
    I never voted for Sinn Fein until the recent local elections.
    I will vote for them in the next GE.
    It's become quite obvious that the main two party's are one and the same thing, steeped in corruption and cronyism.
    Their main MO against other party's is to use smear tactics, on another forum a well known FFail activist confirmed that they had people on the ground in the 6 counties actively looking for dirt on SF.
    Regarding sex abuse, one should remember that both FFail and FG stood back and allowed children be beaten, raped and even murdered by members of the Catholic church and their agents for decades in this country and there's documented proof of many people informing them and the Gardai of what was happening, yet they allowed it to continue for fear of upsetting their core Catholic vote.
    In the north of Ireland there was no police force for one section of the community. When Aine Adams went to the RUC the only thing they were interested in was getting her to inform on Gerry Adams, she was just another 'taig' who got abused and they weren't interested in what happened to her.

    Sinn Fein may have questions to answer here ok and there is a PPS investigation into that at the moment.
    Anyone trying to second guess that investigation could be responsible for bring down any case that may arise from it.

    I firmly believe that some posters on here have no feelings of compassion for Maria Cahill, the main protagonist on these threads being a poster with a 5 year+ record of attacking Sinn Fein on this board, and know at the back of it that most lightly no prosecutions will be brought.
    She is being used as a political football in the same way McConville and McCabe have been for years now.
    That, in my opinion, is DISGUSTING.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Any other thread an if the poster wasn't a mod of course.

    Exactly.

    Its pretty pathetic stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,788 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    his statement in full is at http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/31967
    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1025/654790-sinn-fein/
    RTE's supposed report on Adams' statement.
    Funny how it's 90% statements by Kenny and Cahill isn't it?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    I've reported that post.
    You've now stated that I believe that it's ok for SF to cover up child abuse.
    You've overstepped the mark here now.
    You should know better, I'll be contacting admin too.

    To everyone else, I probably won't be posting here for a while now. You'll know why.
    Not only is he insulting you, he's libelling SF by saying they have covered up child sex abuse, which is a criminal offense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    K-9 wrote: »
    As you have a right to, you'll be a SF martyr yet Ned:

    I don't wish to have an argument with you k9 as you're normally a fairly decent mod.
    I just think you're a bit 'close' to this one to be moderating on it too.
    Would you not agree?
    PM me there if you like.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    K-9 wrote: »
    As you have a right to, you'll be a SF martyr yet Ned:
    Unhinged.
    What has your second quote to do with anything? You just needed volume to make it look like your post had some substance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Unhinged.
    What has your second quote to do with anything? You just needed volume to make it look like your post had some substance?

    The 'you'll be a SF martyr yet' line has an implicit meaning, i.e keep it up and you'll be banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    I don't wish to have an argument with you k9 as you're normally a fairly decent mod.
    I just think you're a bit 'close' to this one to be moderating on it too.
    Would you not agree?
    PM me there if you like.

    You had your DRP which you didn't contest the result of. I haven't modded you since.
    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Unhinged.
    What has your second quote to do with anything? You just needed volume to make it look like your post had some substance?

    It was a wee joke. It's pretty common on here though, SF'ers alleging bias and conspiracies, in fairness it's pretty inherent in the mindset.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    I don't wish to have an argument with you k9 as you're a mod.
    Superfluous wording removed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Oh i believe her, i don't beleive the beard.

    So you can suspend your need for proof when it suits your beliefs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    K-9 wrote: »
    You had your DRP which you didn't contest the result of. I haven't modded you since.



    Fair enough.

    Did you read Adams' statement from this morning?
    Most right thinking people would agree with it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    The 'you'll be a SF martyr yet' line has an implicit meaning, i.e keep it up and you'll be banned.
    Ah right. Nothing new then here except the terminology.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Superfluous wording removed.

    Sorry. Don't do that to my posts.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    K-9 wrote: »
    It was a wee joke. It's pretty common on here though, SF'ers alleging bias and conspiracies, in fairness it's pretty inherent in the mindset.
    When you're threatening to make him an "SF martyr" it's not really a conspiracy theory is it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Sorry. Don't do that to my posts.
    If I edit it it becomes my opinion, not yours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Fair enough.

    Did you read Adams' statement from this morning?
    Most right thinking people would agree with it.

    I find it very difficult to believe he knew basically nothing about IRA kangaroo court investigations into rape and child sexual abuse. It just doesn't add up to me. Maybe you can put up a case why he wouldn't have been told about IRA convicted abusers getting shot, murdered or sent to Coventry!

    If you are holding SF to the same standard as FG/FF in regards handling of sexual abuse cases, that's up to you. Personally, as somebody who has voted for Doherty, this stuff and Liam Adams puts me seriously off, it's different from "dirty war" stuff.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    When you're threatening to make him an "SF martyr" it's not really a conspiracy theory is it?

    I think we cleared that one up, I wont be modding him so I've no power to make him one, even if it wasn't a joke!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,910 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Not only is he insulting you, he's libelling SF by saying they have covered up child sex abuse, which is a criminal offense.

    Which some party members (including the leader) did!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    K-9 wrote: »
    I find it very difficult to believe he knew basically nothing about IRA kangaroo court investigations into rape and child sexual abuse. It just doesn't add up to me. Maybe you can put up a case why he wouldn't have been told about IRA convicted abusers getting shot, murdered or sent to Coventry!

    If you are holding SF to the same standard as FG/FF in regards handling of sexual abuse cases, that's up to you. Personally, as somebody who has voted for Doherty, this stuff and Liam Adams puts me seriously off, it's different from "dirty war" stuff.

    I'm absolutely sure he knew about the kangaroo courts, the same way I'm absolutely sure that Maria Cahill was raped and abused. That's a given.
    Around that time and certainly throughout the troubles, there was no police force for Catholics, the RUC were a sectarian force.

    As for shooting child abusers, I doubt there's many who wouldn't agree with it.
    Child rapists are the lowest of the low, shooting them would be too kind to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,910 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    So you can suspend your need for proof when it suits your beliefs?

    No

    GA has a recent past of covering up child abuse and lying, i'm basing my beliefs on his history of this, nothing more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Which some party members (including the leader) did!

    Why hasn't Adams been charged and jailed for what is an obvious crime?
    Must be that old evidence thing again, eh?
    If only we could have a 'kangaroo court' of some kind to convict him........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,910 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Why hasn't Adams been charged and jailed for what is an obvious crime?
    Must be that old evidence thing again, eh?
    If only we could have a 'kangaroo court' of some kind to convict him........

    I would love to see him jailed for with holding information on his brothers abuse of his daughter, Prosecutor is probably afraid Marty will threaten the peace process again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,852 ✭✭✭take everything


    Load of bluster and faux-indignation from him today about this.


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