More Crap on Adams, Mod Warning in OP.

Fr. Ned

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I would love to see him jailed for with holding information on his brothers abuse of his daughter, Prosecutor is probably afraid Marty will threaten the peace process again

Didn't the PSNI, RUC section, drag him into custody recently to question him about that in the run up to elections?
How did that go again?

K-9

Fr. Ned wrote: »

I'm absolutely sure he knew about the kangaroo courts, the same way I'm absolutely sure that Maria Cahill was raped and abused. That's a given.
Around that time and certainly throughout the troubles, there was no police force for Catholics, the RUC were a sectarian force.

As for shooting child abusers, I doubt there's many who wouldn't agree with it.
Child rapists are the lowest of the low, shooting them would be too kind to them.

It's just not credible that he knew little to nothing about details as he's making out.

Telling people to go to the authorities isn't good enough either. FFS, Bertie got an internal FF investigation into Ray Burke! SF should be setting up a body to go through what everybody knew at the time these courts took place.

As for shooting, that isn't up to me and you. SF are now in Govt. in N.I. and abide by the N.I. law and order system for sexual abuse cases, so the past is the past.

Timberrrrrrrr

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Didn't the PSNI, RUC section, drag him into custody recently to question him about that?
How did that go again?

And hopefully he will be bought in and arrested one day soon. You may be happy that he covered up.child abuse and got away with it but doesn't mean everyone else has to be.

Fr. Ned

K-9 wrote: »

Telling people to go to the authorities isn't good enough either. FFS, Bertie got an internal FF investigation into Ray Burke! SF should be setting up a body to go through what everybody knew at the time these courts took place.

Ah come on.
Sure that sentence just contradicts itself.
Can you imagine the uproar if SF were to announce an internal investigation?

No, once again I believe we should leave it to the PPS to do their job now.

Dyr

bajer101 wrote: »

"Despite the high standards and decency of the vast majority of IRA volunteers, IRA personnel were singularly ill-equipped to deal with these matters. This included very sensitive areas such as responding to demands to take action against rapists and child abusers. The IRA on occasion shot alleged sex offenders or expelled them."

http://leargas.blogspot.ie/#sthash.RMsrmamu.dpuf

Good man, I thought that was reference you were clutching for alright

And you know the difference between being "expelled" and being "moved out of the north"

OnlyWayIsUp

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No

GA has a recent past of covering up child abuse and lying, i'm basing my beliefs on his history of this, nothing more.

Covering up child abuse is a crime, why don't you make a complaint to the Gardaí so that it can be investigated and Adams prosecuted?

Fr. Ned

OnlyWayIsUp wrote: »

Covering up child abuse is a crime, why don't you make a complaint to the Gardaí so that it can be investigated and Adams prosecuted?

Maybe the Irish Gardai will have more luck than the PSNI/RUC old guard.
If all else fails, maybe the lads on here can set up a kangaroo court.

K-9

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Ah come on.
Sure that sentence just contradicts itself.
Can you imagine the uproar if SF were to announce an internal investigation?

No, once again I believe we should leave it to the PPS to do their job now.

Ah come on now, not all SF members are likely to fully co-operate with the CPS.

I do not accept many of the Republican posters on here would accept this SF response if it was for FF/FG or the Church, which to me is politicking with sexual abuse cases.

Fr. Ned

K-9 wrote: »

Ah come on now, not all SF members are likely to fully co-operate with the CPS.

So, what's your suggestion?
Where do we go from here?

Perhaps a cross border investigation unit chaired by Enda and with members of FFail and the DUP on the panel?

michael999999

Fr. Ned wrote: »

So, what's your suggestion?
Where do we go from here?

Perhaps a cross border investigation unit chaired by Enda and with members of FFail and the DUP on the panel?

Maybe Bertie ahern to chair it?

hiFidelity

In 2013 GARDAI investigated an allegation that an official who works with a senior Fine Gael politician sexually assaulted a woman at the Union of Students in Ireland (USI) conference in Ballinasloe, Co Galway, March 2013.

The man under investigation has held several senior positions within Fine Gael and now works closely with the politician.

The alleged incident occurred at the annual USI congress at the Carlton Shearwater hotel between March 25 and 28. A garda source said they were treating the allegation seriously. “We don’t believe the complaint is malicious,” said the source. “We have a victim and her welfare is our priority.” A file is being prepared for the Director of Public Prosecutions.

What ever became of this does anyone know?

Godge

K-9 wrote: »

Your pretty clear on your opinions, SF can do anything including covering up child sexual abuse because FF/FG did the same.

Fr. Ned wrote: »

I've reported that post.
You've now stated that I believe that it's ok for SF to cover up child abuse.
You've overstepped the mark here now.
You should know better, I'll be contacting admin too.

To everyone else, I probably won't be posting here for a while now. You'll know why.

I can see why you get into so many rows on here Fr. Ned.

K-9 stated that you believe SF can do anything because FF/FG did the same and he gave an example of child sexual abuse. And that is a pertinent example based on this thread and what you have previously posted.

You have previously posted laughable rubbish about FF/FG covering up sex abuse in the 1940s and 1950s etc. and why aren't people going after them. here is one example:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92736148&postcount=1070

Then when you get caught out you threaten on thread that you have reported his post when all he had done is honestly repeat your own views. Not the first time you have thrown your toys out of the pram like that.

The intimidatory tactics of the SF/IRA apologists and acolytes on here in bullying anyone who disagrees with them is disgusting. Luckily some of us have a thick skin and won't go away.

Godge

Bambi wrote: »

Good man, I thought that was reference you were clutching for alright

And you know the difference between being "expelled" and being "moved out of the north"

No, but I would be interested in the Jesuitical SF explanation of it.

michael999999

hiFidelity wrote: »

In 2013 GARDAI investigated an allegation that an official who works with a senior Fine Gael politician sexually assaulted a woman at the Union of Students in Ireland (USI) conference in Ballinasloe, Co Galway, March 2013.

The man under investigation has held several senior positions within Fine Gael and now works closely with the politician.

The alleged incident occurred at the annual USI congress at the Carlton Shearwater hotel between March 25 and 28. A garda source said they were treating the allegation seriously. “We don’t believe the complaint is malicious,” said the source. “We have a victim and her welfare is our priority.” A file is being prepared for the Director of Public Prosecutions.

What ever became of this does anyone know?

There was no one tried and convicted in the media anyway in that case.

Arbiter of Good Taste

K-9 wrote: »

Gerry sounded very FF at his shindig, which is fine by you going by the above, surprised he don't go full Pee Flynn and blame the meejia.

Why would he when he has his lap dogs McDonald and Toibin running around doing it for him.

For a party claiming to be the subject of a meeja witch hunt, they sure get a lot of airtime

Fr. Ned

Godge wrote: »

You have previously posted laughable rubbish about FF/FG covering up sex abuse in the 1940s and 1950s etc. and why aren't people going after them. here is one example:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92736148&postcount=1070

The fact that FFail and FG covered up and ignored the sex abuse that was reported to them and their agents, i.e the Gardai, for decades here is now classed as 'laughable rubbish' by the one poster who spends his life attacking SF over claims of kangaroo courts.

I've seen it all now.
Blatant politicking by a poster with at least a 5 year record of attacking everything Sinn Fein.

Another mask finally slips.

Fr. Ned

Arbiter of Good Taste wrote: »

For a party claiming to be the subject of a meeja witch hunt, they sure get a lot of airtime

ROTFL.:eek:

Fr. Ned

"From the 1930s up until the early 1990s, approximately 35,000 Irish children and teenagers who were orphans, petty thieves, truants, unmarried mothers or from dysfunctional families were sent to a network of 250 Church-run industrial schools, reformatories, orphanages and hostels.

In the 1990s, a series of television programs publicised allegations of systemic abuse in Ireland's Roman Catholic-run childcare system, primarily in the Reformatory and Industrial Schools. The abuse occurred primarily between the 1930s and 1970s.
These documentaries included "Dear Daughter", "Washing Away the Stain" and "Witness: Sex in a Cold Climate and Sinners".
These programs interviewed adult victims of abuse who provided "testimony of their experiences, they documented Church and State collusion in the operation of these institutions, and they underscored the climate of secrecy and denial that permeated the church response when faced with controversial accusations."

The commission found that Catholic priests and nuns had terrorised thousands of boys and girls for decades and that government inspectors had failed to stop the chronic beatings, rapes and humiliation."



Godge will have us believe that governments, i.e FFail and FG governments, knew nothing of what was going on.
What a f*cking joke that is, Holocaust denier comes to mind.

Godge

Fr. Ned wrote: »

The fact that FFail and FG covered up and ignored the sex abuse that was reported to them and their agents, i.e the Gardai, for decades here is now classed as 'laughable rubbish' by the one poster who spends his life attacking SF over claims of kangaroo courts.

I've seen it all now.
Blatant politicking by a poster with at least a 5 year record of attacking everything Sinn Fein.

Another mask finally slips.

I think you need some help or counselling.

The Gardai are the agents of FFail and FG? Have you not recognised the Irish state yet?

Fr. Ned

Godge wrote: »

I think you need some help or counselling.

It's not me who's spent almost all day every day for over a week now on this thread......

ThisRegard

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Godge will have us believe that governments, i.e FFail and FG governments, knew nothing of what was going on.
What a f*cking joke that is, Holocaust denier comes to mind.

More whataboutery, and almost touching Godwins Law too.

Fr. Ned

ThisRegard wrote: »

More whataboutery, and almost touching Godwins Law too.

Yea.
It's the whataboutery thread...
Trying to deflect from FFail and FG's failure to protect children, eh?
Now, why would you want to do that?

ThisRegard

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Yea.
It's the whataboutery thread...
Trying to deflect from FFail and FG's failure to protect children, eh?
Now, why would you want to do that?

Madness, just madness. You think I'm both a FF and FG member now, maybe even someone involved in the church?

This thread has become the ravings of a madman, nothing more of use will be posted in it.

Eamondomc

K-9 wrote: »

It's just not credible that he knew little to nothing about details as he's making out.

Telling people to go to the authorities isn't good enough either. FFS, Bertie got an internal FF investigation into Ray Burke! SF should be setting up a body to go through what everybody knew at the time these courts took place.

As for shooting, that isn't up to me and you. SF are now in Govt. in N.I. and abide by the N.I. law and order system for sexual abuse cases, so the past is the past.

The past is the past. what does this mean? Does it mean that the past is of no consequence? Anyone in politics will tell you that the past is either your glory or graveyard. Gerry is running hard from this one and his grave is being dug methinks

Eamondomc

Fr. Ned wrote: »

It's not me who's spent almost all day every day for over a week now on this thread......

Hmmmm i dont know about that

Fr. Ned

Eamondomc wrote: »

Hmmmm i dont know about that

Check back if you like.
I pop in now and again ok, Godge has over 400 posts on it in the last few days.
400!!!

Fr. Ned

ThisRegard wrote: »

Madness, just madness. You think I'm both a FF and FG member now, maybe even someone involved in the church?

This thread has become the ravings of a madman, nothing more of use will be posted in it.

If that's what you take from my posts then it's you, I'd suggest, is the madman.
Where did I say you were a member of any political party?
Just point it out if you can please, that and the bit where you reckon I said you were involved with the church.

Madness indeed.

Barely There

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Check back if you like.
I pop in now and again ok, Godge has over 400 posts on it in the last few days.
400!!!

Shinners have never been very good with numbers.

Your two fellow murder apogogists are leading the pack.

K-9

Fr. Ned wrote: »

So, what's your suggestion?
Where do we go from here?

Perhaps a cross border investigation unit chaired by Enda and with members of FFail and the DUP on the panel?

I all ready said it, and it was nothing like that. I suggested SF have a thorough investigation of what exactly their members knew. You dismissed that though.

hiFidelity wrote: »

In 2013 GARDAI investigated an allegation that an official who works with a senior Fine Gael politician sexually assaulted a woman at the Union of Students in Ireland (USI) conference in Ballinasloe, Co Galway, March 2013.

The man under investigation has held several senior positions within Fine Gael and now works closely with the politician.

The alleged incident occurred at the annual USI congress at the Carlton Shearwater hotel between March 25 and 28. A garda source said they were treating the allegation seriously. “We don’t believe the complaint is malicious,” said the source. “We have a victim and her welfare is our priority.” A file is being prepared for the Director of Public Prosecutions.

What ever became of this does anyone know?

The court systems takes time. I see this account is now closed.

Fr. Ned wrote: »

"From the 1930s up until the early 1990s, approximately 35,000 Irish children and teenagers who were orphans, petty thieves, truants, unmarried mothers or from dysfunctional families were sent to a network of 250 Church-run industrial schools, reformatories, orphanages and hostels.

In the 1990s, a series of television programs publicised allegations of systemic abuse in Ireland's Roman Catholic-run childcare system, primarily in the Reformatory and Industrial Schools. The abuse occurred primarily between the 1930s and 1970s.
These documentaries included "Dear Daughter", "Washing Away the Stain" and "Witness: Sex in a Cold Climate and Sinners".
These programs interviewed adult victims of abuse who provided "testimony of their experiences, they documented Church and State collusion in the operation of these institutions, and they underscored the climate of secrecy and denial that permeated the church response when faced with controversial accusations."

The commission found that Catholic priests and nuns had terrorised thousands of boys and girls for decades and that government inspectors had failed to stop the chronic beatings, rapes and humiliation."



Godge will have us believe that governments, i.e FFail and FG governments, knew nothing of what was going on.
What a f*cking joke that is, Holocaust denier comes to mind.

Yet it seems you believe Gerry knew nothing about the details of IRA rapists kangaroo courts therefor...............

There's no logic to this whataboutery unless you are suggesting "ah sure, SF are just the same as FF/FG, so I'll vote for them anyway!"

Eamondomc

Barely There wrote: »

Shinners have never been very good with numbers.

Your two fellow murder apogogists are leading the pack.

I m sure you mean apologists but none of them apologize for Sinn fein IRA deeds, Just excuse them and then rant and rave about everyone elses. It is an ongoing thing on here. Fanatics. And to be fair there are a few on the other side as well.