More Crap on Adams, Mod Warning in OP.

Eamondomc · 25-10-2014 10:17AM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

I never voted for Sinn Fein until the recent local elections.
I will vote for them in the next GE.
It's become quite obvious that the main two party's are one and the same thing, steeped in corruption and cronyism.

I firmly believe that some posters on here have no feelings of compassion for Maria Cahill, the main protagonist on these threads being a poster with a 5 year+ record of attacking Sinn Fein on this board, and know at the back of it that most lightly no prosecutions will be brought.
She is being used as a political football in the same way McConville and McCabe have been for years now.
That, in my opinion, is DISGUSTING.

Ok not all your quote i know but enough to show they really have gotten to you. Is it hypnosis or how has this change come about?

raymon · 25-10-2014 10:22AM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

I actually would hope that Gerry Adams would retire and allow the younger TD's have their way.
It'd make no difference to you lot though, you'd just focus your bile on the next leader of the party.
Comments like 'Why does MaryLou McDonald sometimes shop in superquinn when there's so many poor people in the country' would be the order of the day.
You people don't want your cosy little cartel of FFail/FG and 'labour' broken up.

Who is "you lot " ?

I don't support any of those parties you mention above. Again this is whataboutery.

I was actually impressed by the likes of McDonald and Toibin before their recent hideous radio appearances in defence of Gerry Adams. They have shown themselves to be very weak minded individuals

Fr. Ned · 25-10-2014 10:27AM

Eamondomc wrote: »

Ok not all your quote i know but enough to show they really have gotten to you. Is it hypnosis or how has this change come about?

FFail bankrupted the country, their 'Galway tent' approach to running the country where corruption was rife was disgraceful.
FG got my vote the last time on the promise of a 'democratic revolution', a 'new and transparent way of doing politics' etc etc
We've clearly seen how FG lied their way into office, the corruption and sleaze that came with that is a slap in the face to people who voted for them.
They are the party of the mega rich at the expense of the most vulnerable in society.
Sinn Fein in government couldn't be any worse and indeed may be a lot better, fairer to people on middle incomes and people less well off.
A couple of weeks ago they came out with an alternnative budget and the plank kenny went on the national airwaves claiming that SF wanted a 73% tax rate for middle earners, a proven lie by a proven liar.

Fr. Ned · 25-10-2014 10:29AM

raymon wrote: »

Who is "you lot " ?

I don't support any of those parties you mention above. Again this is whataboutery.

I was actually impressed by the likes of McDonald and Toibin before their recent hideous radio appearances in defence of Gerry Adams. They have shown themselves to be very weak minded individuals

Allowing a PPS investigation into claims against their party and party leader to run it's course is now classed as 'hideous'.
There you go folks.

ThisRegard · 25-10-2014 10:29AM

Fr Ned, your whataboutery is gone beyond a joke at this stage.

Fr. Ned · 25-10-2014 10:31AM

ThisRegard wrote: »

Fr Ned, your whataboutery is gone beyond a joke at this stage.

Insightful.
Very good, and in fact quite hilarious on a thread based on whataboutery.

Timberrrrrrrr · 25-10-2014 10:35AM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

I never voted for Sinn Fein until the recent local elections.
I will vote for them in the next GE.
It's become quite obvious that the main two party's are one and the same thing, steeped in corruption and cronyism.
Their main MO against other party's is to use smear tactics, on another forum a well known FFail activist confirmed that they had people on the ground in the 6 counties actively looking for dirt on SF.

I'm sure you have evidence of this right?

Regarding sex abuse, one should remember that both FFail and FG stood back and allowed children be beaten, raped and even murdered by members of the Catholic church and their agents for decades in this country and there's documented proof of many people informing them and the Gardai of what was happening, yet they allowed it to continue for fear of upsetting their core Catholic vote.

And what did SF do ?

In the north of Ireland there was no police force for one section of the community. When Aine Adams went to the RUC the only thing they were interested in was getting her to inform on Gerry Adams, she was just another 'taig' who got abused and they weren't interested in what happened to her.

And yet Gerry still defended his brother even though he KNEW he was molesting his daughter, Says a lot about the man who put his political career ahead of a young family member who was being raped. He didn't care about what she was going through he only cared how it would affect him.

Sinn Fein may have questions to answer here ok and there is a PPS investigation into that at the moment.
Anyone trying to second guess that investigation could be responsible for bring down any case that may arise from it.

No may about it

I firmly believe that some posters on here have no feelings of compassion for Maria Cahill, the main protagonist on these threads being a poster with a 5 year+ record of attacking Sinn Fein on this board, and know at the back of it that most lightly no prosecutions will be brought.
She is being used as a political football in the same way McConville and McCabe have been for years now.
That, in my opinion, is DISGUSTING.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Timberrrrrrrr · 25-10-2014 10:36AM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Maybe they'll pay in cash, FG style.....;)

Or rob a bank to pay for it

raymon · 25-10-2014 10:39AM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Insightful.
Very good, and in fact quite hilarious on a thread based on whataboutery.

Fr. Ned wrote: »

FFail bankrupted the country, their 'Galway tent' approach to running the country where corruption was rife was disgraceful.
FG got my vote the last time on the promise of a 'democratic revolution', a 'new and transparent way of doing politics' etc etc
We've clearly seen how FG lied their way into office, the corruption and sleaze that came with that is a slap in the face to people who voted for them.
They are the party of the mega rich at the expense of the most vulnerable in society.
Sinn Fein in government couldn't be any worse and indeed may be a lot better, fairer to people on middle incomes and people less well off.
A couple of weeks ago they came out with an alternnative budget and the plank kenny went on the national airwaves claiming that SF wanted a 73% tax rate for middle earners, a proven lie by a proven liar.

I don't believe it , the Galway tent has been invoked in defence of Sinn Fein . Whatabout that

Fr. Ned · 25-10-2014 10:40AM

raymon wrote: »

I don't believe it , the Galway tent has been invoked in defence of Sinn Fein . Whatabout that

I was asked why I would now vote for Sinn Fein by another poster.
Are you following the thread by any chance?

super_furry · 25-10-2014 11:08AM

The one thing that always strikes me is the lack of dissent from Sinn Fein. Any other party and there would be serious rumblings from the members but it seems that no-one ever dare question Gerry.

Happyman42 · 25-10-2014 11:09AM

bajer101 wrote: »

Finding the details of people who were expelled will be a lot easier to track down for the simple reason that there is not the same security concern about telling someone to leave the country as there is about killing someone. Gerry Adams can get the info about sex offenders who were expelled in a heartbeat.

You have presented nothing there that supposes any records where kept. And it is about the precise co-ordinates about where these people are.
I'd imagine we are talking about a handful of people anyway.
My town here on the border which has about 10 families that I know of who arrived in town having been expelled by the British or Loyalist intimidation at the start of the conflict. The British/Loyalists, if asked, they wouldn't have a clue where they settled either I'd imagine.

Dan_Solo · 25-10-2014 11:20AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Or rob a bank to pay for it

The establishment parties don't need to rob banks. It's generally just handed over to them.

Dan_Solo · 25-10-2014 11:22AM

bajer101 wrote: »

Finding the details of people who were expelled will be a lot easier to track down for the simple reason that there is not the same security concern about telling someone to leave the country as there is about killing someone. Gerry Adams can get the info about sex offenders who were expelled in a heartbeat.

It would be interesting to ask An Garda Siochana the precise location of every sex offender they have (bothered to) bring to conviction and see how well they do.
Looks like people here expect higher standards of the IRA than they do of the Irish state for some reason...

Timberrrrrrrr · 25-10-2014 11:23AM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

The establishment parties don't need to rob banks. It's generally just handed over to them.

You're right, Best leave it to the terrorists/cop killers.

Dan_Solo · 25-10-2014 11:24AM

raymon wrote: »

I don't believe it , the Galway tent has been invoked in defence of Sinn Fein . Whatabout that

Well if the Catholic church, not exactly great mates of theirs, can be used to attack Sinn Fein, why not?

Dan_Solo · 25-10-2014 11:25AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You're right, Best leave it to the terrorists/cop killers.

Haha, the T word. Do you work for Fox or what? Turrrists...

Timberrrrrrrr · 25-10-2014 11:26AM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Haha, the T word. Do you work for Fox or what? Turrrists...

Were the IRA not a terrorist organization?

Dan_Solo · 25-10-2014 11:27AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And what did SF do ?

What did SF do about child abuse cover ups when they were in power in the Republic?
Gee, I dunno, it's not really a question, is it?

Dan_Solo · 25-10-2014 11:28AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Were the IRA not a terrorist organization?

You are Sean Hannity and I claim my $5.

Since the UK, RUC and UVF were working in unison, doesn't that make the UK a terrorist organisation?

Timberrrrrrrr · 25-10-2014 11:32AM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

What did SF do about child abuse cover ups when they were in power in the Republic?
Gee, I dunno, it's not really a question, is it?

It's claimed FG/FF et al knew about the child abuse, are you claiming Sinn Fein were oblivious to what was happening?

Fr. Ned · 25-10-2014 11:33AM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

The establishment parties don't need to rob banks. It's generally just handed over to them.

Was anyone ever convicted of robbing the Northern Bank?
You know that auld law and order thing where people are arrested, charged and tried on front of a jury of their peers and shown evidence of the alleged crime?
Has the boards.ie kangaroo court found Adams guilty of that one too?

Fr. Ned · 25-10-2014 11:36AM

The PSNI recovered £50,000 in unused Northern banknotes at Newforge Country Club, a sports and social club in Belfast for off-duty and retired police officers, owned by the PSNI's Athletic Association.

Funny that, isn't it?

Happyman42 · 25-10-2014 11:39AM

Adams to give an address shortly- resignation or further clarification? Bet now.
Winnings paid in Northern Ireland banknotes!

Dan_Solo · 25-10-2014 11:40AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

It's claimed FG/FF et al knew about the child abuse, are you claiming Sinn Fein were oblivious to what was happening?

Like I said, who exactly would be telling them about this if they weren't in government?
Maybe you should have voted for them if you wanted them to do something about it?

Fr. Ned · 25-10-2014 11:40AM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Adams to give an address shortly- resignation or further clarification? Bet now.
Winnings paid in Northern Ireland banknotes!

£20 ew.
What's the odds?

Dan_Solo · 25-10-2014 11:42AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Were the IRA not a terrorist organization?

You didn't answer, and the definition of the word here is important.
If the British government was working in unison with the UVF, weren't all UK forces also involved in terrorism?
Unless you're about to claim the UVF themselves weren't terrorist...

Timberrrrrrrr · 25-10-2014 11:43AM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Like I said, who exactly would be telling them about this if they weren't in government?
Maybe you should have voted for them if you wanted them to do something about it?

So let's get this straight, Sinn Fein.....been around for a LOOOOOOONG time, Knew NOTHING about the abuse of children in the Republic because they were not in power and therefore no one told them anything?

Fr. Ned · 25-10-2014 11:43AM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Like I said, who exactly would be telling them about this if they weren't in government?
Maybe you should have voted for them if you wanted them to do something about it?

It'd be interesting to note the political allegiances of posters on this thread ok.

Happyman42 · 25-10-2014 11:44AM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

£20 ew.
What's the odds?

I have a feeling he may step aside until this is resolved in a court of law.

Right thinking people need to advise Cahill to get this into a court as a priority. And with Gerry stepping aside temporarily, the heat will go out of this and allow the right course of action to be taken.