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More Crap on Adams, Mod Warning in OP.

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  • #1112
    crusher000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭crusher000


    Well If Gerry Adams failed the victim which he now says he has it's more than the State here has done regarding GoldenBridge etc, They have acknowledged their failings in all the child abuse scandals but how many of our politicians have been prosecuted for these failings ? When it suits though the full rigours of the law should be fall on this individual , Gerry Adams. If we are to have standards within politics and the establishment in Ireland it should be the same standards for all. Then we can say we have a fair and just society.


  • #1113
    sallymomo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭sallymomo


    For Reals wrote: »
    So stating that I think we should not convict people or their affiliates until a legal proceeding takes place is my supporting Sinn Fein?:rolleyes:

    I've never voted for Sinn Fein in any local elections, ever. I've given preference nationally, but only due to my dislike of conmen (FF) and rightwing blustercrats (FG).

    Kenny is a disgrace and a low manner of public representative to be using such a sad chapter in the lives of people for political one upmanship. He should have some dignity and faith in the legal system he represents and hush.

    Roll eyes doesn't give you licence to misquote me - I didn't say you were a Sinn Fein supporter, my response was to the poster who quoted you saying brilliant post. I agreed with your post immediately after but you haven't quoted that one. I merely responded to the "brilliant post" comment by stating that it deflected away from this thread.


  • #1114
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Johngoose wrote: »
    Sinn Fein supporters never question the leader of the party.No members of Sinn Fein have come out against Gerry.I suppose no democracy within the party.

    Well if you knew anything about the party, you'd know that it is probably the most democratic of them all. The debate is robust and there are many different opinions within it.
    Looking in at it, I doubt very much if there is even a hint of a dictatorship in SF.
    Maybe it's just that they ask 'questions' but they just aren't the moral high ground ones that are designed to assassinate people who have lived through difficult times and events and actually worked for and achieved something for the people who supported them. These 'questions' come mostly from people, vested with the welfare of your fellow Irish men and women, who stood by and did sweet fanny adams during the same difficult times.


  • #1115
    Eamondomc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Eamondomc


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Well if you knew anything about the party, you'd know that it is probably the most democratic of them all. The debate is robust and there are many different opinions within it.
    Looking in at it, I doubt very much if there is even a hint of a dictatorship in SF.

    OMG OMG OMG lol lol lol i think you really believe that.


  • #1116
    um7y1h83ge06nx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    I guess SF members such as Mary Lou are keeping their heads down and mouths shut because they wouldn't want to end up in a bog...


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  • #1117
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Eamondomc wrote: »
    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Well if you knew anything about the party, you'd know that it is probably the most democratic of them all. The debate is robust and there are many different opinions within it.
    Looking in at it, I doubt very much if there is even a hint of a dictatorship in SF.

    OMG OMG OMG lol lol lol i think you really believe that.

    Well you tell us how it shows that it isn't a democratic party. In comparison to FG, for instance, would you say the number of resignations, defections and sackings are in any way similar? Go on, have a stab at the answer.


  • #1118
    Eamondomc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Eamondomc


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Eamondomc wrote: »

    Well you tell us how it shows that it isn't a democratic party. In comparison to FG, for instance, would you say the number of resignations, defections and sackings are in any way similar? Go on, have a stab at the answer.

    it is precisely because of what you say here that would make me suspicious of the democracy. Freedom to take your own political decisions in most parties without fear of violence. Sinn fein/IRA have a history of violence towards defectors maybe .


  • #1119
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Eamondomc wrote: »

    Sinn fein/IRA have a history of violence towards defectors maybe .

    It's this kind of insidious slander and it's place in a serious 'Politics' forum that is being discussed in the rules thread.
    I am sorry, I have no answer to that.


  • #1120
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    The debate is robust and there are many different opinions within it.

    Of course, of course.
    It's truly a wonder that the phrase 'Shinnerbot' has gained such traction.


  • #1121
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    The irony

    I wonder how many brit soldiers paid visits to Kincora.
    Hopefully the proposed investigation will look into these things.
    Why isn't enda or michael calling for an investigation into these things too? No political gain?
    Then again, much like the brit sponsored bombing of Dublin and Monaghan, it's best brushed under the carpet by the Irish government.


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  • #1122
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    nicedryturf wrote: »
    Why is Adams so valuable to Sinn Fein? Everytime McDonald and Tobin go on the radio to address this, they're shedding buckets of hard-fought credibility. In any other party he'd have been told to "just go". I don't think Fintin O'Toole was that far off the mark when he said this makes SF look like a cult.

    Toibins insistence that there isn't a bad bit of DNA in Adams body is just breathtakingly hilarious. Makes him look like a fool.


  • #1123
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,906 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    I wonder how many brit soldiers paid visits to Kincora.
    Hopefully the proposed investigation will look into that too.

    I'll just refer back to your earlier post ;)
    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Almost as ugly as the kangaroo court you're partaking in right here on this thread.
    It seems law and order and due process have been abandoned on boards.ie.
    DISGUSTING, as a ex FG 'justice' minister would say.

    Hypocrite much?


  • #1124
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Barely There wrote: »
    Of course, of course.
    It's truly a wonder that the phrase 'Shinnerbot' has gained such traction.

    Well when you get cheap and nasty comments like this
    it is precisely because of what you say here that would make me suspicious of the democracy. Freedom to take your own political decisions in most parties without fear of violence. Sinn fein/IRA have a history of violence towards defectors maybe .

    is it any wonder, SF party members on here spend most of their time defending insidious allegations, like the one above, that are routinely made without the slightest piece of back up or evidence, well done Boards/Politics once again.


  • #1125
    Eamondomc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Eamondomc


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    It's this kind of insidious slander and it's place in a serious 'Politics' forum that is being discussed in the rules thread.
    I am sorry, I have no answer to that.

    Slander.??. No answer. Why is that?. I made a comment and finished it with maybe. I didnt state it as fact. No answer is what we are all really talking about.


  • #1126
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Well when you get cheap and nasty comments like this


    is it any wonder, SF party members on here spend most of their time defending insidious allegations, like the one above, that are routinely made without the slightest piece of back up or evidence, well done Boards/Politics once again.

    The really, really interesting thing on here is that not one of the claims made against SF has been taken down, not one warning or ban has been issued.
    Posters defending the right of SF to democratic process have been banned and sanctioned.
    Interesting, to say the least.
    Probably best to leave this thread to the bottom feeders now.


  • #1127
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Eamondomc wrote: »
    Slander.??. No answer. Why is that?. I made a comment and finished it with maybe. I didnt state it as fact. No answer is what we are all really talking about.

    You didn't even attempt to make the comparison I asked you to make, you just came back with a childish gobdaw comment, meant to stifle debate. Well done, take a bow, I'm sure all the other anti SF high grounders took their warrior hands of their keyboards for a few seconds to applaud you.


  • #1128
    Eamondomc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Eamondomc


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    You didn't even attempt to make the comparison I asked you to make, you just came back with a childish gobdaw comment, meant to stifle debate. Well done, take a bow, I'm sure all the other anti SF high grounders took their warrior hands of their keyboards for a few seconds to applaud you.

    Ah man. you call my comment a gobdaw comment. what is a gobdaw?. nothing good anyway I d say. For gods sake go back and read your own comments. and then talk about gobdaw. I d say you are really not a very Happyman.


  • #1129
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Eamondomc wrote: »
    Ah man. you call my comment a gobdaw comment. what is a gobdaw?. nothing good anyway I d say. For gods sake go back and read your own comments. and then talk about gobdaw. I d say you are really not a very Happyman.

    A person not worthy of further thought

    "Don't worry about him, he's only an aul gobdaw"

    http://www.slang.ie/index.php?county=Tipperary&entry=gobdaw

    Capisé?


  • #1130
    Eamondomc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Eamondomc


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    A person not worthy of further thought

    "Don't worry about him, he's only an aul gobdaw"


    Capisé?
    ok ok i get it. you really are a smoothie. When debates fail insult the opponent.


  • #1131
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    It's this kind of insidious slander and it's place in a serious 'Politics' forum that is being discussed in the rules thread.
    I am sorry, I have no answer to that.
    No such thing as 'slander' in Ireland I'm afraid.


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  • #1132
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Eamondomc wrote: »
    ok ok i get it. you really are a smoothie. When debates fail insult the opponent.

    I asked you in the debate to make a comparison, you came back with a slanderous remark directed at the SF party and didn't even try to make the comparison...and I failed in the debate?

    This is the poster who wrote a post saying they where a 'neutral' and then you make a comment like that in answer to a genuine question and you expect to be taken seriously? Jaysus, why am I wasting my time. Good luck.


  • #1133
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    No such thing as 'slander' in Ireland I'm afraid.

    Maybe not in law. The word still has it's uses and meaning though.


  • #1134
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Eamondomc wrote: »

    it is precisely because of what you say here that would make me suspicious of the democracy. Freedom to take your own political decisions in most parties without fear of violence. Sinn fein/IRA have a history of violence towards defectors maybe .

    In fairness there is absolutely no evidence to support your allegation that current members of SF are in any way involved in the IRA or have a "history of violence" towards anyone.


  • #1135
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Maybe not in law. The word still has it's uses and meaning though.
    It actually doesn't - slander used to be a tort, it is no longer a tort in this country.


  • #1136
    mikep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭mikep


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    In fairness there is absolutely no evidence to support your allegation that current members of SF are in any way involved in the IRA or have a "history of violence" towards anyone.

    Martin Ferris was arrested and convicted of importing tons of arms on the Marita Ann, for the IRA.

    Dessie Ellis was arrested and imprisoned for transporting explosives...


  • #1137
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    It actually doesn't - slander used to be a tort, it is no longer a tort in this country.

    Fair enough.
    Kinda moot mentioning the law when it has been decided we will operate outside the ordinary decent standards of debate and take our chances on Boards/Politics.
    It's exactly that kind of debate paralysing remark I was referencing on the Rules thread.


  • #1138
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    mikep wrote: »
    Martin Ferris was arrested and convicted of importing tons of arms on the Marita Ann, for the IRA.

    Dessie Ellis was arrested and imprisoned for transporting explosives...

    Here we go. :rolleyes:


  • #1139
    daUbiq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭daUbiq


    Eamondomc wrote: »
    Slander.??. No answer. Why is that?. I made a comment and finished it with maybe. I didnt state it as fact. No answer is what we are all really talking about.

    Now that this thread has completely gone down the toilet, can I join in the mudslinging and childish attempts at debate?

    I heard from my mate's uncle's dog that Eamondomc is Edna Kenny's favourite rent-boy "maybe".

    Isn't this allowed? If I end everything with maybe, then I can write whatever bull**** I like?


  • #1140
    sallymomo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭sallymomo


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    You didn't even attempt to make the comparison I asked you to make, you just came back with a childish gobdaw comment, meant to stifle debate. Well done, take a bow, I'm sure all the other anti SF high grounders took their warrior hands of their keyboards for a few seconds to applaud you.

    Childish gobdaw comment, meant to stifle debate

    Like these two intelligent retorts..

    "Somebody's just having a little cry that their own post didn't get the attention they were sure it deserved."


    "Run along and "Remove thanks" there.
    Confused much?"


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  • #1141
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    mikep wrote: »
    Martin Ferris was arrested and convicted of importing tons of arms on the Marita Ann, for the IRA.

    Dessie Ellis was arrested and imprisoned for transporting explosives...
    I'm sorry, I meant to say "all" - my point was that it is not appropriate to tar them all with the same brush.


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