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Cavanjack wrote: »

What are your predictions's for the coming months regarding the weekly kill as grass cattle get killed? Will the usual high no's still be available to the factories in sept October?

It is a matter of watching weekly kill figure. Remember there will be few Fresian bulls 18-20 months around they are all squeezed. Much the same with continentals bulls. There may be early 2013 cattle come on stream but that will be late October or early November. The next 2-3 weeks will tell alot. One thing there will be no base of 3.5/kg for cattle in the autumn.

epfff wrote: »

they still not willing to pay for it

epfff wrote: »

feeding no bulls at the min
got sick begging
last bunch are sunning themselves in Italy
toying with putting in or sending next bunch after them
quoted bullacks 370 heifers 375 base underage all boxes ticked
mixed load will prob squeeze 375 base all round when we have or very seceritive chat in office

severeoversteer wrote: »

the journal

I can only get 3.60 for under age and under weight bulls on the grid
and the grid they use for the bulls is using u as a base and you get x amount more for a u plus etc, its the damnedest kill sheet I have ever seen for young bulls , the factories are re writing the grid book themselves with bulls

Lads it a case of holding the line as MF say ignore the phone calls. Heard the story of a lad with heifers told the agent they cound stay in the yard until a base of 4/kg and they could go to FS5, over 30 months and over 400kgs.

If this was winter finishers would hold the line and force the price up if cattle got scarse. It is mid summer, at most costing 1 euro/day to feed cattle and cattle could be putting on anything from 0.5-1kg of Flesh that is worth 3.75 at todays prices. Why worry about a few going over fat.

Willfarman wrote: »

The papers don't buy a lot of beef!

I was just curious would I benefit from sending cattle far away if there was a price difference,

the prices have been tit for tat allover the country for the last long time and it hasn't been worth travelling with cattle,

but I do see a lot of lorrys on the road with fat stock and I was wondering if im missing out !:rolleyes:

MfMan wrote: »

They say cattle can lose a certain amount of condition in transit. My agent reckons you'd want to be getting at least 10c extra if sending a load on a longish spin. In fairness, I'd agree with him.

I know all about that

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Generaly it is considered that cattle loaded the night before and slaughtered the following day lose 2% compared to cattle loaded and taken in the morning. That is equivlent to 7kgs DW. That brings total to about 40 euro or about 12c/kg so for it to be worth anything you need 15c/kg to be making a few bob out of it.

some argue that it's gut fill,and of no loss? and a few kgs beef nuts fed extra before loading will compensate for it? what's your opinion on that ?

We were offered 2.40/kg for overage ho bulls during the week by a factory agent. Just two them 6 weeks over. Tried another agent he didn't turn up to see them when he was due. Rang factory early yesterday afternoon was offered €3 flat for them unseen. We were only being offered 3.10 to 3.30 for underage bull during the week so seemed reasonable. Second agent rang oul boy this morning. He spotted the two bulls in factory lairage and was offering 30 cent more if he could take them out of the lairage and bring them 'up the country". How he planned to achieve this is beyond me but for cattle that no one wanted a few days ago. .... I left my phone in the yard when I went with the two bulls and there were a half dozen missed calls from first agent when I got back. I haven't rung him back yet but it would be surprising if he wants to chat about the weather. I don't know whether to I'm pleased or annoyed tbh. We got a lot more than we thought they would leave on Tuesday but there was more to be got.

If overage ho, and I mean ho, bulls in small numbers are in that sort of demand then those of ye with good stock in any numbers should start any conversation with any factory buyer by telling him to fcuk off until he had at least another 50 cent flat. The worm has turned lads and we need to push the price back up as hard as they pushed down.

freedominacup wrote: »

We were offered 2.40/kg for overage ho bulls during the week by a factory agent. Just two them 6 weeks over. Tried another agent he didn't turn up to see them when he was due. Rang factory early yesterday afternoon was offered €3 flat for them unseen. We were only being offered 3.10 to 3.30 for underage bull during the week so seemed reasonable. Second agent rang oul boy this morning. He spotted the two bulls in factory lairage and was offering 30 cent more if he could take them out of the lairage and bring them 'up the country". How he planned to achieve this is beyond me but for cattle that no one wanted a few days ago. .... I left my phone in the yard when I went with the two bulls and there were a half dozen missed calls from first agent when I got back. I haven't rung him back yet but it would be surprising if he wants to chat about the weather. I don't know whether to I'm pleased or annoyed tbh. We got a lot more than we thought they would leave on Tuesday but there was more to be got.

If overage ho, and I mean ho, bulls in small numbers are in that sort of demand then those of ye with good stock in any numbers should start any conversation with any factory buyer by telling him to fcuk off until he had at least another 50 cent flat. The worm has turned lads and we need to push the price back up as hard as they pushed down.

If I could thank this post 10 times I would. We need to wake up and smell the [EMAIL="f@@king"]f@@king[/EMAIL] coffee. Forget about other years and normal pice symentary during the year. We should be at 4/kg and pushing up. The factory's are looking for cattle and lads are loading them onto the lorry for them. Now FJ is often on about soft selling but this is ridiclous. Kill has dropped 4K in as many weeks and the only reason it has not dropped more is the factory has mopped up all the bulls. But these are gone.

Had a chat with a factory agent yesterday not my usual one, he was offering 3.7/kg for AA heifers. I told him that no way they be at 4/kg in 2-3 weeks time. He started the malarky about March/April cattle coming on stream for 30 months and all the excess cattle, I told him most were on hooks, and I was wrong he said. Next thing a fella near me was listening and as I was arguing the point he closed the conversation and ****ed off.

Lads if you need to sell you should be looking for 4 of a base minimum. I think there is a longterm game being played hers. FJ is not as bullish about prices as usual. The BQAS boycott is starting to gather momentum. The processors have a fear that strong autunm prices will prevent finishers putting cattle into feedlots. They need cheap cattle in the autumn to get finishers to fill feedlots.

However any lad selling for less than 4/kg is ( and I seldom agree with the FJ on this) a soft seller at present.

onyerbikepat wrote: »

What way are finished cattle selling in the marts? That would give you an idea about any market turning.

According to the comic factory's have given agents the go ahead to pay above there own quotes. It is simple 2+2=4 kill as at 28K last week, I am awaithing with bated breath for next weeks figures. If it drops again we should be looking for 4/Kg++