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severeoversteer

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

According to the comic factory's have given agents the go ahead to pay above there own quotes. It is simple 2+2=4 kill as at 28K last week, I am awaithing with bated breath for next weeks figures. If it drops again we should be looking for 4/Kg++

this week last year I got €4.54 a kilo for a double deck of bullocks no weight restrictions

we need more than €4.30 a kilo realistically to actually make a margin, we are breaking even at 3.90 or 4 euro

Farmer Pudsey

severeoversteer wrote: »

this week last year I got €4.54 a kilo for a double deck of bullocks no weight restrictions

we need more than €4.30 a kilo realistically to actually make a margin, we are breaking even at 3.90 or 4 euro

I agree with you but we are not going to go from 3.7/kg base to 4.3/kg in one jump

Cavanjack

Got quoted 3.20 for o grade cows next week anybody get better than this?

simx

Cavanjack wrote: »

Got quoted 3.20 for o grade cows next week anybody get better than this?

let cows off on tuesday and got 3.15 for o&ps flat, say youll be safe enough taking it, havent heard anymore anyway

visatorro

3.60 for o = for freisan stock bull killed this week. Under thirty months

Farmer Pudsey

visatorro wrote: »

3.60 for o = for freisan stock bull killed this week. Under thirty months

That factory must be ready to break ranks. That is a flaking price. What it is indicating is that if farmers with under age stock held for 4/Kg it would be available. Loads of lads just letting them have cattle. I can understand lads with cosw and buylls they are gertting good prices and these will not improve much. But prime stick have to lift soon,

Cavanjack

Spoke to three factory agents this week. All three talking down prices in a few weeks.

Tell me this. What way do agents get paid? One lad offered 10cent more for cows before he left the yard. Do they get a bonus for getting cattle cheaper?

Farmer Pudsey

Cavanjack wrote: »

Spoke to three factory agents this week. All three talking down prices in a few weeks.

Tell me this. What way do agents get paid? One lad offered 10cent more for cows before he left the yard. Do they get a bonus for getting cattle cheaper?

No they get paid by the animal procured. However an agent who talks up cattle prices will not last long with a factory so you have to remember that. There is a certain amout f spinning at present in that processors are trying to put pressure on farmers to force out under age born from february on. However. The bullock and heifer kill has held up to last year levelsbut if it falls they will be uner pressure.

They are in a real quandry was talking to one lad and he is of the opinion that most of the cattle left are black and while and a lot of these are not being fed meal so will take a while to get fit. So we may see a tightening of underage cattle. Between heifer, bullocks and youn bulls the kill is up 90K on last year. There are a lot more cattle squeezed than last year and that will kick in from now on.

Thje other issue if they rise cattle prices store prices will rise. There are loads of lads not going to finish cattle this winter. These are mostly lads killing 10-30 cattle. This will really squeeze them Remember loads of dairy farmers are eyeing removal of quotas next year so shed space may being adapted for cows that carried beef cattle before. The other thing is if store get expensive this autumn it will really put them under pressure with finishers looking for contracts.

cute geoge

Got quoated 3.40 - r grade cows
€3.30-o grade cows limousine

Farmer Pudsey

cute geoge wrote: »

Got quoated 3.40 - r grade cows
€3.30-o grade cows limousine

If you had Friesian bullocks overage they be quoting 3.6/kg and you be getting 3.38-3.4 accross them if they grades O-/O=

darragh_haven

Got quoted €3.80/kg and free transport. Being in west cork, transport to anywhere costs a fair bit. No cuts for over age or overweight either.

tanko

darragh_haven wrote: »

Got quoted €3.80/kg and free transport. Being in west cork, transport to anywhere costs a fair bit. No cuts for over age or overweight either.

Surprise, surprise!!! As finished cattle start to become less plentiful, all this bullcrap about cuts in price for "non qa cattle, overage cattle and overweight cattle" goes out the window. Any farmer with a fat horse or donkey around the place would want to keep a good eye on it or he might see it on his local supermarket shelf shortly.

visatorro

visatorro wrote: »

3.60 for o = for freisan stock bull killed this week. Under thirty months

older generation rang me last night delighted with this price. just outta the cot and looked at the chegue myself. its 2.70 euro /KG. very sorry for getting excited and posting this am

blue5000

Cavanjack wrote: »

Got quoted 3.20 for o grade cows next week anybody get better than this?

Are these fresians or beef cows, also do they have to be over a certain weight?

Cavanjack

blue5000 wrote: »

Are these fresians or beef cows, also do they have to be over a certain weight?

Friesians. 3.10 for p's. No mention of weight but they are all fat.

simx

Cavanjack wrote: »

Friesians. 3.10 for p's. No mention of weight but they are all fat.

Usually if they don't kill out something around 260/70kg dead weight they get cut a bit

Farmer Pudsey

simx wrote: »

Usually if they don't kill out something around 260/70kg dead weight they get cut a bit

The agents usually quote in lbs, 600, 700 and 800lbs. Which is about 270, 320 and 365 kgs.

simx

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

The agents usually quote in lbs, 600, 700 and 800lbs. Which is about 270, 320 and 365 kgs.

Looked at docket there, 270 alright, got covered for as low as 262 in last load without deduction though

Cavanjack

simx wrote: »

Usually if they don't kill out something around 260/70kg dead weight they get cut a bit

Cows here usually average 350kg dead and 50/50 o's and p/s.

simx

Cavanjack wrote: »

Cows here usually average 350kg dead and 50/50 o's and p/s.

Big cows there

Willfarman

Talk of a price pull next week. Slaney only killing 2days and no interest in looking..

cute geoge

Willfarman wrote: »

Talk of a price pull next week. Slaney only killing 2days and no interest in looking..

I hope they enjoy the holidays after their hard earned year

mf240

Willfarman wrote: »

Talk of a price pull next week. Slaney only killing 2days and no interest in looking..

There flushing out the last of the soft sellers before the price rise.

Willfarman

mf240 wrote: »

There flushing out the last of the soft sellers before the price rise.

Well I'm going to keep letting them on as they come fit. But I'd be a big gom ya see!

mf240

Willfarman wrote: »

Well I'm going to keep letting them on as they come fit. But I'd be a big gom ya see!

Now i didnt say you were a gom

But factory agents are ruthless. That said if your heavily stocked youve to keep things turning.

Muckit

http://www.agriland.ie/news/questionable-exceptional-beef-grades-necessary-80-export-markets/

Interesting article. Couldn't help think of a certain poster when reading it

Willfarman

mf240 wrote: »

Now i didnt say you were a gom

But factory agents are ruthless. That said if your heavily stocked youve to keep things turning.

Ah the cute hoors are counting the cattle and they are gonna clean up when they hit 4.00 in August.. But now I wouldn't be cute! Wait you see what a wet week does now.

coolshannagh28

Another thing to be factored in is that the 30000 /week figure may not hold , I would suspect that processor loss of contracts tightening of criteria and retailer inspections following the horsemeat scandal may have reduced this rule of thumb number, opening farmers up to downside risk on beef prices.

Mad4simmental

Wanker a mile away from me was one of the biggest involved in the horse meat scandal, he made the rte news and all. Not as much as a slap on the wrist did he get. All his rented land is full of horses agen over the last few weeks, hundreds of the fcukers. What story dose that tell?

blue5000

Muckit wrote: »

http://www.agriland.ie/news/questionable-exceptional-beef-grades-necessary-80-export-markets/

Interesting article. Couldn't help think of a certain poster when reading it

Had a look and the fcukin popup ad on top of the page is for abp:D