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what are ye getting paid this week for cattle?

bulls under and over age

or bullocks under and over?

darragh_haven

sandydan wrote: »

was in skib yesterday (forgot notes somewhere) but 15 month cattle all breed were back by up to 150e imo. fr depending on type 150+kg . br beef fr 350+ kg.
2yr fr bullock 650kg e1050 , ones with more hols 50-100e. less.
saw a bunch of blacks with white stripes at 550kg sell at 880-900.much too fat i recon.
almost 4yr aa bull 850 kg went over €1100 farmer bought i think.bit demand for them,but need be 550 kg .some recon good few empties around.
calves were dear,anything 3 weeks and over €200 +.beef breed calves €300- €350

My dad bought 4 on Friday. Fist time in a long time he said there was any value to be had in skib

epfff

feeding no bulls at the min
got sick begging
last bunch are sunning themselves in Italy
toying with putting in or sending next bunch after them
quoted bullacks 370 heifers 375 base underage all boxes ticked
mixed load will prob squeeze 375 base all round when we have or very seceritive chat in office

€3.75 for under 30 months tomorrow. Slaney looking for Herefords at the minute.

last week they reported that €3.70 was available for over age bulls upto 440kg dead, does anybody know where this may be

severeoversteer wrote: »

last week they reported that €3.70 was available for over age bulls upto 440kg dead, does anybody know where this may be

Who are they? The farming indo?

Willfarman wrote: »

Who are they? The farming indo?

the journal

I can only get 3.60 for under age and under weight bulls on the grid
and the grid they use for the bulls is using u as a base and you get x amount more for a u plus etc, its the damnedest kill sheet I have ever seen for young bulls , the factories are re writing the grid book themselves with bulls

severeoversteer wrote: »

the journal

I can only get 3.60 for under age and under weight bulls on the grid
and the grid they use for the bulls is using u as a base and you get x amount more for a u plus etc, its the damnedest kill sheet I have ever seen for young bulls , the factories are re writing the grid book themselves with bulls

The papers don't buy a lot of beef!

Agents are busy looking for cattle at the moment.

blue5000

I said wrote: »

Agents are busy looking for cattle at the moment.

Any prices, have a few cows to go?

simx

blue5000 wrote: »

Any prices, have a few cows to go?

R grade cows? Best quote I got so far is 3.40, only had a couple so hard to haggle for more then

Cavanjack wrote: »

What are your predictions's for the coming months regarding the weekly kill as grass cattle get killed? Will the usual high no's still be available to the factories in sept October?

It is a matter of watching weekly kill figure. Remember there will be few Fresian bulls 18-20 months around they are all squeezed. Much the same with continentals bulls. There may be early 2013 cattle come on stream but that will be late October or early November. The next 2-3 weeks will tell alot. One thing there will be no base of 3.5/kg for cattle in the autumn.

epfff wrote: »

they still not willing to pay for it

epfff wrote: »

feeding no bulls at the min
got sick begging
last bunch are sunning themselves in Italy
toying with putting in or sending next bunch after them
quoted bullacks 370 heifers 375 base underage all boxes ticked
mixed load will prob squeeze 375 base all round when we have or very seceritive chat in office

severeoversteer wrote: »

the journal

I can only get 3.60 for under age and under weight bulls on the grid
and the grid they use for the bulls is using u as a base and you get x amount more for a u plus etc, its the damnedest kill sheet I have ever seen for young bulls , the factories are re writing the grid book themselves with bulls

Lads it a case of holding the line as MF say ignore the phone calls. Heard the story of a lad with heifers told the agent they cound stay in the yard until a base of 4/kg and they could go to FS5, over 30 months and over 400kgs.

If this was winter finishers would hold the line and force the price up if cattle got scarse. It is mid summer, at most costing 1 euro/day to feed cattle and cattle could be putting on anything from 0.5-1kg of Flesh that is worth 3.75 at todays prices. Why worry about a few going over fat.

blue5000 wrote: »

Any prices, have a few cows to go?

3.75 next day steers

Willfarman wrote: »

The papers don't buy a lot of beef!

I was just curious would I benefit from sending cattle far away if there was a price difference,

the prices have been tit for tat allover the country for the last long time and it hasn't been worth travelling with cattle,

but I do see a lot of lorrys on the road with fat stock and I was wondering if im missing out !:rolleyes:

MfMan

severeoversteer wrote: »

I was just curious would I benefit from sending cattle far away if there was a price difference,

the prices have been tit for tat allover the country for the last long time and it hasn't been worth travelling with cattle,

but I do see a lot of lorrys on the road with fat stock and I was wondering if im missing out !:rolleyes:

They say cattle can lose a certain amount of condition in transit. My agent reckons you'd want to be getting at least 10c extra if sending a load on a longish spin. In fairness, I'd agree with him.

MfMan wrote: »

They say cattle can lose a certain amount of condition in transit. My agent reckons you'd want to be getting at least 10c extra if sending a load on a longish spin. In fairness, I'd agree with him.

I know all about that

MfMan wrote: »

They say cattle can lose a certain amount of condition in transit. My agent reckons you'd want to be getting at least 10c extra if sending a load on a longish spin. In fairness, I'd agree with him.

On cattle killing about 350kgs you would need that to break even. Extra haulage can be as high as 12-15 euro/head and more if you can draw yourself. Generaly it is considered that cattle loaded the night before and slaughtered the following day lose 2% compared to cattle loaded and taken in the morning. That is equivlent to 7kgs DW. That brings total to about 40 euro or about 12c/kg so for it to be worth anything you need 15c/kg to be making a few bob out of it.

sandydan

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Generaly it is considered that cattle loaded the night before and slaughtered the following day lose 2% compared to cattle loaded and taken in the morning. That is equivlent to 7kgs DW. That brings total to about 40 euro or about 12c/kg so for it to be worth anything you need 15c/kg to be making a few bob out of it.

some argue that it's gut fill,and of no loss? and a few kgs beef nuts fed extra before loading will compensate for it? what's your opinion on that ?

sandydan wrote: »

some argue that it's gut fill,and of no loss? and a few kgs beef nuts fed extra before loading will compensate for it? what's your opinion on that ?

No I do not think so, cattle sweat a lot inside a trailer have you ever seen the steam coming off them as they come down from a trailer. In an article in the rag a big finisher in the UK says he will never allow cattle into a factory overnight. He loads 4-5am in the morning rather than have cattle standing in a factory pen for 12-14 hours. I agree seldom see drinkers working in factory pens. cattle dehydrated will look fluid from body and this will reduce carcass DW.

blue5000

severeoversteer wrote: »

I was just curious would I benefit from sending cattle far away if there was a price difference,

the prices have been tit for tat allover the country for the last long time and it hasn't been worth travelling with cattle,

but I do see a lot of lorrys on the road with fat stock and I was wondering if im missing out !:rolleyes:

I prefer to kill local. €15 transport is 5 cent a kg on a 300kg carcase. Some lads that moved away, then went back to their local this spring really got fcukede around, cattle in the evening before and then not killed until about 4pm the following day. How much weight were they down?

blue5000 wrote: »

I prefer to kill local. €15 transport is 5 cent a kg on a 300kg carcase. Some lads that moved away, then went back to their local this spring really got fcukede around, cattle in the evening before and then not killed until about 4pm the following day. How much weight were they down?

I had a load of cattle graded like Mongolian donkeys in a far away grass is greener places last spring

freedominacup

We were offered 2.40/kg for overage ho bulls during the week by a factory agent. Just two them 6 weeks over. Tried another agent he didn't turn up to see them when he was due. Rang factory early yesterday afternoon was offered €3 flat for them unseen. We were only being offered 3.10 to 3.30 for underage bull during the week so seemed reasonable. Second agent rang oul boy this morning. He spotted the two bulls in factory lairage and was offering 30 cent more if he could take them out of the lairage and bring them 'up the country". How he planned to achieve this is beyond me but for cattle that no one wanted a few days ago. .... I left my phone in the yard when I went with the two bulls and there were a half dozen missed calls from first agent when I got back. I haven't rung him back yet but it would be surprising if he wants to chat about the weather. I don't know whether to I'm pleased or annoyed tbh. We got a lot more than we thought they would leave on Tuesday but there was more to be got.

If overage ho, and I mean ho, bulls in small numbers are in that sort of demand then those of ye with good stock in any numbers should start any conversation with any factory buyer by telling him to fcuk off until he had at least another 50 cent flat. The worm has turned lads and we need to push the price back up as hard as they pushed down.

Willfarman wrote: »

I had a load of cattle graded like Mongolian donkeys in a far away grass is greener places last spring

I don't think any animals graded well last spring with the bad fodder and even the grain was not on par with most years

freedominacup wrote: »

We were offered 2.40/kg for overage ho bulls during the week by a factory agent. Just two them 6 weeks over. Tried another agent he didn't turn up to see them when he was due. Rang factory early yesterday afternoon was offered €3 flat for them unseen. We were only being offered 3.10 to 3.30 for underage bull during the week so seemed reasonable. Second agent rang oul boy this morning. He spotted the two bulls in factory lairage and was offering 30 cent more if he could take them out of the lairage and bring them 'up the country". How he planned to achieve this is beyond me but for cattle that no one wanted a few days ago. .... I left my phone in the yard when I went with the two bulls and there were a half dozen missed calls from first agent when I got back. I haven't rung him back yet but it would be surprising if he wants to chat about the weather. I don't know whether to I'm pleased or annoyed tbh. We got a lot more than we thought they would leave on Tuesday but there was more to be got.

If overage ho, and I mean ho, bulls in small numbers are in that sort of demand then those of ye with good stock in any numbers should start any conversation with any factory buyer by telling him to fcuk off until he had at least another 50 cent flat. The worm has turned lads and we need to push the price back up as hard as they pushed down.

If I could thank this post 10 times I would. We need to wake up and smell the [EMAIL="f@@king"]f@@king[/EMAIL] coffee. Forget about other years and normal pice symentary during the year. We should be at 4/kg and pushing up. The factory's are looking for cattle and lads are loading them onto the lorry for them. Now FJ is often on about soft selling but this is ridiclous. Kill has dropped 4K in as many weeks and the only reason it has not dropped more is the factory has mopped up all the bulls. But these are gone.

Had a chat with a factory agent yesterday not my usual one, he was offering 3.7/kg for AA heifers. I told him that no way they be at 4/kg in 2-3 weeks time. He started the malarky about March/April cattle coming on stream for 30 months and all the excess cattle, I told him most were on hooks, and I was wrong he said. Next thing a fella near me was listening and as I was arguing the point he closed the conversation and ****ed off.

Lads if you need to sell you should be looking for 4 of a base minimum. I think there is a longterm game being played hers. FJ is not as bullish about prices as usual. The BQAS boycott is starting to gather momentum. The processors have a fear that strong autunm prices will prevent finishers putting cattle into feedlots. They need cheap cattle in the autumn to get finishers to fill feedlots.

However any lad selling for less than 4/kg is ( and I seldom agree with the FJ on this) a soft seller at present.

larrymiller

Met an agent in the mart the other day, told him I had 50 white head heifers nearly ready(which I don't) he nearly burst when I said it he offered 3.75 then 3.80, I said p1ss off unless you give me 4 at least he laughed and I walked off

That's what we need sow it into them.Agents are out in force trying to get cattle hold the nerve prices are rising

onyerbikepat

What way are finished cattle selling in the marts? That would give you an idea about any market turning.

onyerbikepat wrote: »

What way are finished cattle selling in the marts? That would give you an idea about any market turning.

According to the comic factory's have given agents the go ahead to pay above there own quotes. It is simple 2+2=4 kill as at 28K last week, I am awaithing with bated breath for next weeks figures. If it drops again we should be looking for 4/Kg++

severeoversteer wrote: »

I don't think any animals graded well last spring with the bad fodder and even the grain was not on par with most years

The grades didn't correspond with comrade cattle killed locally..