Jimmy Saville exposed

mrsdewinter · 26-06-2014 6:36pm

mikeyjames9 wrote: »

i would say the stories are all true

the rumor about the mortuary has been *aroused* for years

Very unfortunate typo there

mike65 · 26-06-2014 6:38pm

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/26/savile-bodies-sex-acts-corpses-glass-eyes-mortuary

One former Broadmoor nurse told investigators that Savile claimed to have performed sex acts on bodies and "mucked about" in the mortuary, posing in photographs with the deceased after placing them in lewd positions.

The former nurse said: "He [Savile] was saying that they used to put the bodies together, male and female, and he also said that they took photographs and also that he got involved in some of the photographs … I was a little bit upset because I had no concept, in those days, of necrophilia. Several of the Broadmoor patients would have been diagnosed with that, but I didn't fully understand what it meant, and partway through I just wandered off.

"[Savile] talked about gamaroosh ... It means oral sex ... that he [Savile], he would go down on them and gamaroosh and muck about."

Hootanany · 26-06-2014 7:07pm

mike65 wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/26/savile-bodies-sex-acts-corpses-glass-eyes-mortuary

Yuck

GalwayGuy2 · 26-06-2014 7:23pm

Jesus. If true, Saville's worse than any serial killer from America.

What would you even class him as?

NomadicGray · 26-06-2014 7:26pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Jesus. If true, Saville's worse than any serial killer from America.

What would you even class him as?

A ****.ing devil.

I hope they take a real close look at all those in his circle of contacts back then

LizzieJones · 26-06-2014 7:26pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

What would you even class him as?

A fcuking sick basturd.

mad muffin · 26-06-2014 7:44pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Jesus. If true, Saville's worse than any serial killer from America.

What would you even class him as?

He's definitely a psychopath.

A better question is, what would you class his enablers and people that turned a blind eye.

Those that had a duty of care are cowardly scum that let this alleged sicko to ply his evil work.

Hootanany · 26-06-2014 7:47pm

mad muffin wrote: »

He's definitely a psychopath.

A better question is, what would you class his enablers and people that turned a blind eye.

Those that had a duty of care are cowardly scum that let this alleged sicko to ply his evil work.

They might have done even worse?

GalwayGuy2 · 26-06-2014 8:14pm

Eh, lads. Let's not start a witch hunt.

He's definitely a psychopath.

Probably. It just seems inconsistent. Pedophilias it's own thing, but disabled, dead bodies, elderly people, adults, so on.

Sadism?

Psychotic?

Schizophrenia?

Some weird sort of narcissism?

Don't get me wrong, it's horrible, but the inconsistency makes it seem almost cartoony evil.

sam34 · 26-06-2014 8:24pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Eh, lads. Let's not start a witch hunt.

Probably. It just seems inconsistent. Pedophilias it's own thing, but disabled, dead bodies, elderly people, adults, so on.

Sadism?

Psychotic?

Schizophrenia?

Some weird sort of narcissism?

Don't get me wrong, it's horrible, but the inconsistency makes it seem almost cartoony evil.

Jesus, no, there's nothing in his behaviour to suggest he was psychotic or schizophrenic, and to suggest there is shows a woeful lack of knowledge about schizophrenia and does a huge disservice to those who are suffering from this illness.

26-06-2014 8:35pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Eh, lads. Let's not start a witch hunt.

Probably. It just seems inconsistent. Pedophilias it's own thing, but disabled, dead bodies, elderly people, adults, so on.

Sadism?

Psychotic?

Schizophrenia?

Some weird sort of narcissism?

Don't get me wrong, it's horrible, but the inconsistency makes it seem almost cartoony evil.

Wow.

GalwayGuy2 · 26-06-2014 8:43pm

I was throwing things out there?

Is there fear that this will impact the mental health community?

EDIT:

Candie, why the wow?

26-06-2014 8:51pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

I was throwing things out there?

Is there fear that this will impact the mental health community?

EDIT:

Candie, why the wow?

Because it's very ignorant to lump schizophrenia and mental illness in there, especially since there seems to be zero evidence to indicate anything of the sort.

Most mentally ill people would be very offended to be lumped in with a child-abusing rapist necrophiliac, since they're no more, or even less likely to be violent than the general population.

It's offensive, very much so.

GalwayGuy2 · 26-06-2014 8:57pm

Tbh, your coming across a little 'faux outragey'.

*Shrugs*

I never lumped anybody in with anybody. I was mentioning a few possibilities because it doesn't quite make sense.

And yes I realise that mentally ill people are no more likely to be violent then the next person.

porsche959 · 26-06-2014 9:02pm

Candie wrote: »

Wow.

Galwayguy is wrong to suggest schizophrenia in this context, but he does have a point in suggesting psychological profile of Savile very unclear.

For example, in some ways he seems to fit profile of a paedo but in other ways does not. Many victims were over the age of 18 for example.

26-06-2014 9:07pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Tbh, your coming across a little 'faux outragey'.

*Shrugs*

I never lumped anybody in with anybody. I was mentioning a few possibilities because it doesn't quite make sense.

And yes I realise that mentally ill people are no more likely to be violent then the next person.

I'm not outraged at all, just surprised that anyone can make such a tenuous connection with something so inapparent, so insensitively, especially so if you're aware they're no more likely to be violent than anyone else. That's puzzling.

*shrugs*

Neeson · 26-06-2014 9:08pm

He's an all rounder. Takes a bit of whatever is around. He wouldn't discriminate. He'd be open to anything and be generous in that sort of way. It wouldn't be right to categorise him.

GalwayGuy2 · 26-06-2014 9:17pm

Candie wrote: »

I'm not outraged at all, just surprised that anyone can make such a tenuous connection with something so inapparent, so insensitively, especially so if you're aware they're no more likely to be violent than anyone else. That's puzzling.

*shrugs*

My mentality was extreme delusions. I would have said drugs, but I just threw that out there.

*Shrugs*

I'll apologize to the schizophrenic community. I was just throwing things out there and I wasn't really thinking of the effect that could have on people who have mental illnesses and people's perceptions of said mental illness.

Back to Candie. Why didn't you object the use of the word sadist?

wazky · 26-06-2014 9:18pm

Maybe he was just a sick bastard?, anyone have any qualms with that definition?

26-06-2014 9:20pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Back to Candie. Why didn't you object the use of the word sadist?

Because sadists, by definition, aren't ordinary people going about their daily lives, hurting no one. Like schizophrenics do.

Is that not obvious?

GalwayGuy2 · 26-06-2014 9:23pm

Candie wrote: »

Because sadists, by definition, aren't ordinary people going about their daily lives, hurting no one. Like schizophrenics do.

Is that not obvious?

The vast majority of people with sexually sadistic traits don't go around, non consensually, hurting people.

26-06-2014 9:29pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

The vast majority of people with sexually sadistic traits don't go around, non consensually, hurting people.

You're being deliberately obtuse.

Sadism is not a mental illness it's a sexual deviation. People with sadistic tendencies hurt other people, consensually or not, for sexual pleasure. Savile may very well have been sadistic for all I know, it's a theory the evidence of his behaviour somewhat supports. He hurt people.

Schizophrenia is a mental illness not a deviancy. People with schizophrenia go about their daily business, hurting nobody, and minding their own business. There's nothing in his behaviour that suggests he might be schizophrenic.

KCC · 26-06-2014 9:35pm

He was a psychopath, a narcissist and a sexual predator with mother issues:

http://www.channel4.com/news/how-jimmy-savile-revealed-all-in-the-psychiatrists-chair

Louis Theroux documentary on him is also very revealing.

26-06-2014 9:38pm

KCC wrote: »

http://www.channel4.com/news/how-jimmy-savile-revealed-all-in-the-psychiatrists-chair

Louis Theroux documentary on him is also very revealing.

That Theroux doc was amazing. How this guy operated for decades unchallenged is just amazing, he was practically cartoonishly evil.

the_monkey · 26-06-2014 9:39pm

Disgusting reading this on the BBC today, unreal ... molesting a 10 year old kid after he had surgery ???
Not much makes me sick in the news these days but that makes me wish the c*nt was still alive so justice could be served to the little rat.

The real sad thing here is who will be punished for this.

Decent young people (lets be honest here - men) trying to get into a career in the media will be subject to ridiculous "guilty until proven innocent" background checks.

Don't get me wrong, there needs to be background checks for sure, but I can see the UK red tape bureaucracy going ballistic here and just punishing and hindering the wrong people.

Disgusting society.

GalwayGuy2 · 26-06-2014 9:41pm

Candie wrote: »

You're being deliberately obtuse.

Sadism is not a mental illness it's a sexual deviation. People with sadistic tendencies hurt other people, consensually or not, for sexual pleasure. Savile may very well have been sadistic for all I know, it's a theory the evidence of his behaviour somewhat supports. He hurt people.

Schizophrenia is a mental illness not a deviancy. People with schizophrenia go about their daily business, hurting nobody, and minding their own business. There's nothing in his behaviour that suggests he might be schizophrenic.

*Shakes head*

Deviancy is such a dehumanising term for people who have sexually sadistic traits.

And, as many masochists have sadistic traits, perhaps you should stop before you are grossly offensive to a large portion of the population.

26-06-2014 9:43pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

*Shakes head*

Deviancy is such a dehumanising term for people who have sexually sadistic traits.

And, as many masochists have sadistic traits, perhaps you should stop before you are grossly offensive to a large portion of the population.

Nice try, but no cigar.

Deviancy is a definition, not a judgement.

deviant
ˈdiːvɪənt/Submit
adjective
1.
departing from usual or accepted standards, especially in social or sexual behaviour.

GalwayGuy2 · 26-06-2014 9:44pm

Is homosexuality a deviancy?

EDIT:
Woops, my snarkiness has derailed the thread.

Jimmy Savilles a bastard. Going into his lack of mental illness, or proof of mental illness, is pointless. He was one of those rare people that are evil to the core.

LizzieJones · 26-06-2014 9:45pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Is homosexuality a deviancy?

Only to those who think that way.

26-06-2014 9:46pm

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Is homosexuality a deviancy?

Seriously, don't even try that, it's not on.

It's childish and reflects badly, and has nothing to do with Savile.

Jimmy Saville exposed

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