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Trying to conceive/Planned parenthood/Assisted Reproduction Chat thread.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    Sorry for the multiple posts, I'm not sure how to multi quote :)

    Anyways, looks like for me there might be some truth to the theory that you're more fertile after a miscarriage.

    My period not due until Friday but I've had a few familiar signs so I took a first response test this morning and got a very feint line! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    Are u using the sticks or an App YH?

    I've never used the sticks but had used an app and I felt myself it was always a few days out sometimes.

    Last cycle I actually used both so I feel pretty confident about my ovulation date.

    I am actually doubled over in pain today so going to docs this evening to ask for referral for ultrasound/MRI. Totally convinced I have cysts again :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    Sorry for the multiple posts, I'm not sure how to multi quote :)

    Anyways, looks like for me there might be some truth to the theory that you're more fertile after a miscarriage.

    My period not due until Friday but I've had a few familiar signs so I took a first response test this morning and got a very feint line! :D

    Oh god sorry I replied before I even saw this post....congratulations sittingpretty!!! I totally understand your apprehension this time but fingers crossed all will be good. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    yellow hen wrote: »
    Last cycle I actually used both so I feel pretty confident about my ovulation date.

    I am actually doubled over in pain today so going to docs this evening to ask for referral for ultrasound/MRI. Totally convinced I have cysts again :(

    Oh God! You poor thing, I hope your visit goes ok and at least if it is cysts again better to have it diagnosed now and start dealing with it right away.

    Hope the pain eases for you :(


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Sorry for the multiple posts, I'm not sure how to multi quote :)

    Anyways, looks like for me there might be some truth to the theory that you're more fertile after a miscarriage.

    My period not due until Friday but I've had a few familiar signs so I took a first response test this morning and got a very feint line! :D

    Congratulations to you!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    Congratulations SP! Fingers crossed for you


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    Congratulations SP, great news!
    Feel better soon Yellow Hen, hopefully it's not the cysts back :-(

    Feeling deflated myself, went to Galway last Tues to diagnose a cyst, back up this morn for my Day10 scan, follicles are too small so came home to be told take another dose of Gonal F and head back up there on Day 12 for another scan, it's a 5 hour round journey and I've been up there at least a day of each month for the past 6 months, this month is awful - twice last week and twice this week, I'm starting to really loose it, totally depressed today, hate the thoughts of going back up there this week again :-( sorry for the negative post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    Went to doc and they've faxed a referral to the beacon for an ultrasound so hoping to hear back from them soon. In the meantime, on ponstan for the pain. So disappointed another month has gone by :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    Really sorry to hear that YellowHen, at least it is getting sorted for you, hopefully you get your scan asap. It's so so tough, I know how your feeling, the months are just passing by, I feel like I'm in limbo land. Really hope you feel better soon, I always find peppermint tea helps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    Sorry to hear you're still in so much pain YH, hope you're not waiting too long on your appointment x

    Congrats on the BFP Sittingpretty :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    yellow hen wrote: »
    Went to doc and they've faxed a referral to the beacon for an ultrasound so hoping to hear back from them soon. In the meantime, on ponstan for the pain. So disappointed another month has gone by :(

    Oh **** YH, that sounds awful :(

    I don't expect you'll have to wait too long for your ultrasound and at least one way or the other you'll know and can get a treatment plan in place so you can be back TTC before you know it.

    Feel better soon lady :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    Oh **** YH, that sounds awful :(

    I don't expect you'll have to wait too long for your ultrasound and at least one way or the other you'll know and can get a treatment plan in place so you can be back TTC before you know it.

    Feel better soon lady :)

    Oh thanks! I called the beacon today and they said there's a very short waiting list so I sh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    Oh **** YH, that sounds awful :(

    I don't expect you'll have to wait too long for your ultrasound and at least one way or the other you'll know and can get a treatment plan in place so you can be back TTC before you know it.

    Feel better soon lady :)

    Oh thanks! I called the beacon today and they said there's a very short waiting list so I should hopefully be called soon. Last time I had to get an MRI too as the ultrasound just showed a mass but to distinguish whether it was endo or a cyst they needed the MRI. Anyway, pain pretty much gone this eve so onwards and upwards.

    How are you feeling?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    yellow hen wrote: »
    Oh thanks! I called the beacon today and they said there's a very short waiting list so I should hopefully be called soon. Last time I had to get an MRI too as the ultrasound just showed a mass but to distinguish whether it was endo or a cyst they needed the MRI. Anyway, pain pretty much gone this eve so onwards and upwards.

    How are you feeling?

    Glad you're feeling better YH :)

    I'm feeling good, haven't re tested yet, will wait until I actually miss my period on Friday and do a new test.

    Haven't even told himself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭dublinlady


    Huge congrats SP!! Fab news !


    YH- hope the pain stays away and u get to the bottom of it soon with a quick beacon appt :(

    Hollywood - u seem to be enduring a gruelling routine and it's so tiring I imagine - really hope it ok and not letting it get on top of u too much.

    Good luck to anyone in waiting x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    Day 33 for me - my cycle has become horribly unpredictable recently, it just keeps getting longer so this time I'm trying very hard not to get my hopes up. Last one was 36 days, before that 29,34,29,33 so who knows?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    Glad you're feeling better YH :)

    I'm feeling good, haven't re tested yet, will wait until I actually miss my period on Friday and do a new test.

    Haven't even told himself

    What a surprise he's in for :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Roesy


    Day 33 for me - my cycle has become horribly unpredictable recently, it just keeps getting longer so this time I'm trying very hard not to get my hopes up. Last one was 36 days, before that 29,34,29,33 so who knows?!

    The unpredictable cycles are a pain in the arse aren't they? The only thing I found that kept me sane with them is that a lot of the time ovulation was fairly obvious for me(pains,cm) etc even if I wasn't testing for it. At least that way I knew that between 12 and 14 days later my period would/should arrive.

    Oh, and congrats sittingpretty! I don't know how you are keeping it to yourself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    Roesy wrote: »
    The unpredictable cycles are a pain in the arse aren't they? The only thing I found that kept me sane with them is that a lot of the time ovulation was fairly obvious for me(pains,cm) etc even if I wasn't testing for it. At least that way I knew that between 12 and 14 days later my period would/should arrive.

    Oh, and congrats sittingpretty! I don't know how you are keeping it to yourself!

    Such a pain! I'm starting back temping and using my ovulation tests this month as my period arrived half an hour ago (actually that's annoying too I never get any warning signs that it's coming).

    Not thinking about it until next week anyway I'm off to London for a few days tomorrow

    SP you must feel ready to burst, enjoy telling him :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭dublinlady


    Watching one born every minute makes me a blubbering mess!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    dublinlady wrote: »
    Watching one born every minute makes me a blubbering mess!

    I've been recording it for when I get pregnant ha!!:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    Was going to watch it tonight but decided against it, thought it a bad idea 😄

    Was back at the clinic today, my cyst shrank slightly from 19x18 to 18x18 so that's good, I have a size 16 follicle on the right and a 13 on the left, lining is 10 and hormones are 2000, i remember the numbers for once!! So had to take my 5th Gonal F trigger shot today, Ovitrelle tomorrow, tsi tomorrow and Friday, should ovulate on Saturday so then cones the gruelling waiting process! Can't wait lol!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭llambert


    Congratulations SP that's great news!!

    Hollywood I developed a cyst during my ivf treatment. It thankfully disappeared on its own and didn't cause me any bother. I hope your one is similar.

    Hope this is your month. Least you'll get a break from the journey to Galway. I was always glad that we didn't have to travel for our appointments and as I worked in Galway too only ever had to take an hour or 2 off to nip to the clinic during treatment. I know it saved me alot of stress.


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    llambert I'd say it did, I was up there alot lately and it really took it out of me... so glad I'm getting a break from it, I'm exhausted from the injections so I think that is the real problem! The cyst has started collapsing I was told during the scan yesterday it's now 18mm down from 19 but it's a different shape, hope it disappears altogether this month! Last trigger shot today for a while and I'm so happy for that, how did your IVF go, was it successful?? They're so nice in Galway, so nice to deal with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭llambert


    Well fingers crossed that you get success this month. Try be kind to yourself, you deserve it x x.

    They are lovely there to deal with, very understanding and great when you have questions. Don't make you feel rushed.

    This time last year we were on our 2 week wait after transfer. It was difficult cos we started off with quite alot potential embryos but each day they rang there was less and less. In the end just one to transfer which wasn't successful.

    However what a difference a year makes. We went through our second round in Nov/Dec and now I've 6 weeks left until my twins are due. Much better quality embryos on the 2nd cycle. We ended up with 3 very good quality embryos. Transfered 2 and froze one. We were afraid if it wasn't successful and we went through another cycle and it didn't produce good embryos we'd have one as a back up.

    We know we're incredibly lucky. Its been a tough road, one I'll never forget. It will be 4 years next month since we started trying. Once I turned 30 I said yeah lets go for it. Was very naive thinking I'd be pregnant in no time like my Mum and sister but thankfully we're almost there now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    A that really is great news llambert, put a smile on my face! Congratulations, best of luck for your last few weeks bet you can't wait to meet your babies.

    We're waiting to hear about a house we want to buy, should know in the next two weeks so I know this cycle isn't over yet but I want to have the stress of the mortgage/house behind me before going onto IVF. New house and new baby would be an absolute dream come true this year! I turn 28 this week, 5 years ttc glad I started early on this path!


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭llambert


    Thanks Hollywood!!

    You're not out yet so no point worrying about ivf yet.
    Hopefully the house will work out and you'll be settled in. Don't get too stressed over the house for these 2 weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭nemo32


    llambert wrote: »
    Well fingers crossed that you get success this month. Try be kind to yourself, you deserve it x x.

    They are lovely there to deal with, very understanding and great when you have questions. Don't make you feel rushed.

    This time last year we were on our 2 week wait after transfer. It was difficult cos we started off with quite alot potential embryos but each day they rang there was less and less. In the end just one to transfer which wasn't successful.

    However what a difference a year makes. We went through our second round in Nov/Dec and now I've 6 weeks left until my twins are due. Much better quality embryos on the 2nd cycle. We ended up with 3 very good quality embryos. Transfered 2 and froze one. We were afraid if it wasn't successful and we went through another cycle and it didn't produce good embryos we'd have one as a back up.

    We know we're incredibly lucky. Its been a tough road, one I'll never forget. It will be 4 years next month since we started trying. Once I turned 30 I said yeah lets go for it. Was very naive thinking I'd be pregnant in no time like my Mum and sister but thankfully we're almost there now.

    Hi Llambert, Congrats on your successful cycle, I hope I can follow in your footsteps. We just had a failed IVF cycle, our first. Can I ask how you had better quality embryos on your second cycle? Did the clinic change your protocol or was it just a case that they were better quality with no changes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭llambert


    nemo32 wrote: »
    Hi Llambert, Congrats on your successful cycle, I hope I can follow in your footsteps. We just had a failed IVF cycle, our first. Can I ask how you had better quality embryos on your second cycle? Did the clinic change your protocol or was it just a case that they were better quality with no changes?

    Hi Nemo. Sorry to hear that, its truely heartbreaking.

    They didn't really change anything on my second cycle only lowered the dosage of my injections because on the 1st cycle my focilies grew very fast only injected for 8 days. I still had 13 eggs that could be used but they were thinking that even though they were the correct size they might not have been mature.

    Even with the lower dosage very same thing happened and only injected 8 days. Produced a similar number of eggs. Don't think the lower dosage had anything to do with it.

    Also my second transfer was done by my doctor because I had cramping after the first.

    I know this sounds stupid but after 1st failed cycle we got a puppy. He's spoilt rotten but gave us something else to worry and focus on. I think he really helped with my husbands stress levels. Not saying get a dog but try distract yourself!!

    Also after 2nd transfer took the 2 weeks after off and just relaxed at home. Not saying that was the difference cos I know the embryos on the 2nd cycle were better quality but certainly helped me relax.

    Are you planning a second cycle, good luck with it if you are.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭nemo32


    That's crazy llambert, the exact same thing happened to me. I only done 7 days of stimming and only needed two scans. I was on quite a low dose of Gonal F but knew I would respond quite quickly as never had a problem getting big size follies for my TSI cycles and ov on my own every month. I got 9 eggs and all were mature, all 9 fertilised but 5 were abnormal (due to egg quality I'm not sure). 2 got to blast and were transferred. The day after transfer I had extreme pain to the point of vomiting and not being able to stand up, went back into the clinic for a scan... they said there was only a small amount of fluid there so didn't think that was causing the pain but the ovary was very enlarged and as I'm petite they believed that was what was causing the pain. 2 days later I was brand new and the pain was gone, the second nurse that scanned me believed the ovary had twisted and that was the cause of the pain which came on so quickly with no warning. All I can think now is that if that pain hadn't been there I'd have gotten my BFP but I'll never know. They tell you not to do anything like lifting etc so the fact that my body was in spams of pain less than 24 hours transfer had to have some affect.... didn't it??

    I'll have to let my OH read your post this evening, we need to book post consult but we have both said we will try again but we'll wait and see what the doctor says when we do the review.

    I also meant to add... we have one big puppy (well when I say puppy he's 2 next mth) and one of the things I said when I found out it was a BFN on Monday was 'can we go and buy a new puppy today'. we kept saying we are getting a second one for our fella but probably not the right time in fairness but a very good distraction, I hadn't been walking him since I started the IVf cycle and he doesn't know what has hit him in the last 2 days... his little legs are walked off him by me and my OH has gotten a break :)

    Thanks again xx


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭llambert


    God what a really awful experience for you nemo. The cramping I had was more like bad period pain 2 days after transfer. I think my consultant thought it was catheter placement and tests why she decided to do the next one.

    Ivf was our only treatment as we weren't suitable to the others so always expected the first cycle to be a little unsure.

    I was actually on my way to clinic when they rang to cancel transfer as blast hadn't formed on any of the 2 remaining. It was the only day that my hubby had to be in work, he had said that date from start, we didn't think we'd be so unlucky that would be the day of transfer but sods law of course it was.

    The embryologist was lovely and told me that she didn't expect anything to change with them. In one she could see the cells were dying and expected the same with the other one.

    You can image the state I was in. Got phone call at 9am the next day to say the blast had formed on last one and they thought it was worth a try. I was brought into the lab and shown the development of the embryo that was been transfered. I think this was to reassure me that blast had formed. There was another thing that they like to see formed before transfer but cannot think of what it was called but anyway this embryo hadn't formed it yet but as it was all we had felt it was worth the try.

    I think this plus the stressed out state I was in meant I was never going to get a positive result.

    Anyway my only advice is to go in to your post consult with your questions wrote down because I got very emotionally talking about it and wouldn't have remembered half of them. Do not leave until you feel that you are satisfied with what you've heard and happy with the plan they put on place if you decide to go again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭nemo32


    Wow llambert, It's crazy everything we have to go through to get our happy ending isn't it. Like you said... there was no doubt all of that had to have an affect on you and your body.

    Did you go straight into cycle 2 i.e 3 periods later?

    Have all my questions written down and just got off the phone from booking the consult. It's a phone consult so I won't let him off the phone until I have everything answered and my OH will be with me aswell so he won't let me forget anything.

    Best of luck for the last couple of weeks.. you'll be on cloud 9 once your gorgeous twins get here xx


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭llambert


    Yeah nemo we went straight into cycle 2. We had said from the start we'd only do 2 cycles and if we went successful go on with our lives (even though I think we would have tried a third time). I just wanted to put 2013 behind me and start the new year either pregnant or an acceptance I wasn't going to have kids.

    God you think with all the money that it costs they'd at least give a face to face consultation. I guess different clinics have different practices. At least your OH will be there to support you which is great cos at the end of it all its only you and him going through it.

    Thanks for your good wishes. I really hope the next cycle is your one x x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    CD14 here, I've not ovulated yet but don't suppose I will till next week.
    Have just been reading about secondary infertility & frightening the crap out of myself, time to step away from Google I think:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Roesy


    Cycle day 29 here and I don't feel pregnant. Only 8/9 days days past ovulation though so I suppose I probably wouldn't yet even if I was! We almost managed the sperm meets egg plan, trying every second day up to the positive opk and then those 3 days but forgot about the skipping a day and trying once more. If I didn't have the familiar dragging/crampy feeling I might be more hopeful. Am also crap at parking today and feeling very tired both of which would be the norm a couple of days before my period is due. I'll test Monday or Tuesday if my period doesn't show in the meantime but I've a feeling it will.

    Oh, and definitely stay away from Google Ms2011!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Roesy


    I'm out. Cycle was 3 days shorter than the last one but we seemed to have all bases covered. Oh well!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    Sorry to hear that Rosey, can be frustrating when you think you've timed things well only for AF to show up x


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    My OTD is Friday please please stay away AF


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭zoviea


    Hi all.. Just to keep yer spirits up id like to tell ye there is light at the end of the tunnel!!
    We were TTC for 7 years..My husband had only 1% chance of getting my pregnant due to seman antibodies and we were told our only hope was IVF. Due to the cost and my stubborn ways, I refused to give up. My husband went on fertile aid for men and took zinc and vitamin c. 4 months later his andtibodies went from 99% to 75%!! and we conceived naturally!! We are so happy so keep trying everyone and good luck


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 PennyPenny


    zoviea wrote: »
    Hi all.. Just to keep yer spirits up id like to tell ye there is light at the end of the tunnel!!
    We were TTC for 7 years..My husband had only 1% chance of getting my pregnant due to seman antibodies and we were told our only hope was IVF. Due to the cost and my stubborn ways, I refused to give up. My husband went on fertile aid for men and took zinc and vitamin c. 4 months later his andtibodies went from 99% to 75%!! and we conceived naturally!! We are so happy so keep trying everyone and good luck

    Thats amazing news zoviea!! huge congrats to you and the hubby!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭zoviea


    Thanks..just wanted to let others keep there hopes us as we did and continue trying as it can be possible even when doctors tell u it wont happen naturally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    Congratulations Zoviea. After 7 years you must be delerious!

    Im on cd 18 now and haven't really had any cm since around day 10 so I'm titky confused as to whether I ovulated back then or if I'm going to be mega late. Eitherway I hold out no hope :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭zoviea


    Yes yellow hen..we are very happy after that length of time..just hope all goes well now.. Don't give up hope as I said it will happen in time for you too when you don't expect it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    Zoviea huge congratulations, that is amazing, I've TTC for just over 5 years, my next step is IVF but going to wait a couple of months before starting, maybe it might happen in those months for us too! Congrats again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭zoviea


    Hi Hollywood130..dont know ur circumstances but why not try the fertile aid for a few months if ur going to wait to try ivf. Its for females too and it helped with our problem of the antibodies when nothing else would and even doctors told us it would be no help! Just an idea and Im sure u have heard enough of them!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    Zoviea no I haven't heard of them, are they over the counter or where can I get them? I have Endometriosis, prone to Ovarian cysts and have a low AMH of 4.5, OH is ok, sperm quantity was 3 where the norm is 4 but motility was excellent so he was no worry to them at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭zoviea


    You buy them online..I will look up the site and forward to u ltr. You can read the reviews and people in similar circumstances too. I too was sceptical when I heard about them but they were only 30euro per month and I said what the heck..worth a try and it was! You can see all the ingredients etc online too so u know they are safe


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ciarrai76


    I've been looking through the threads to find out if anyone here has don IUI and been successful, but I can't seem to find much on it.
    It has been suggested to me that IUI may be an option for us, and as its a fraction of the cost of IVF (quoted €850), its something I want to look into more. I don't know if we are going to be candidates for it, but from what I've read on Sims website, we should be.
    Just like to hear from others how they got on with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭Lucuma


    Roustabout wrote: »
    Congrats Bobskii. Keeping on the positive note I too got my long awaited BFP yesterday!! Still in shock & two tests later, it's definitely a positive. In shock but very, very happy. We were nearly 2 years trying.
    Now on to a different kind of wait & worry!........

    Ciarrai :
    Roustabout got a BFP from IUI on this thread about 10 pages back....maybe contact her for a few tips!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    Ovulating today/tomorrow. Fingers crossed for this cycle!!


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