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LovinDublin.com/Niall Harbison in a spot of bother

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  • #242
    smellmepower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    Met has 31,000 officers + 2,000 PCSO's
    There's around 10,000 rank and file Gardai.Lot easier for the Met to be proactive in fairness.

    Plus I'd imagine the Met is run a lot more efficiently with a lot less political interference then AGS is.


  • #243
    ankaragucu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭ankaragucu


    Jesus, over 20 pages now of this, going back and forth.
    Look, no sensible person has a problem with kids playing in a canal.However, sometimes they do other things aswell.As soon as they impinge upon or affect other folk going about their business then its not ok.It doesnt happen ALL the time but sometimes they DO act like 'knackers' and to say you dont know what the author is on about and the accompanying faux outrage is more an indication of your lack of realism or indeed because you're a bit of a knacker yourself if you see nothing wrong with a bit of anti social behaviour.
    I'm from Finglas by the way.


  • #244
    Ranchu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    VinLieger wrote: »
    I dunno whats wrong with complaining about this and coming across as snobby?

    So what if i dont wanna have to see lobster red fat wans skulling cider an hour after collecting their dole?

    I work hard for my money and dont need to be abused for no reason other than i look like I have a job while on my walk home by these yokels

    These are local KIDS.

    As a resident of the area for over a decade all I can say is that these kids have never caused any trouble. They've been jumping in the canal since before you were born. If you're intimidated by the city go live somewhere else. Nothing is going to change.


  • #245
    Aidric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    smellmepower wrote: »
    Met has 31,000 officers + 2,000 PCSO's
    There's around 10,000 rank and file Gardai.Lot easier for the Met to be proactive in fairness.

    Plus I'd imagine the Met is run a lot more efficiently with a lot less political interference then AGS is.

    It's also possible to be efficient on limited resources. The Gardai and HSE seem incapable of achieving this.


  • #246
    Ranchu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    Here's a video made by one of these "knackers".

    http://vimeo.com/motherlandie/becomingmen


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  • #247
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    ankaragucu wrote: »
    Jesus, over 20 pages now of this, going back and forth.
    Look, no sensible person has a problem with kids playing in a canal.However, sometimes they do other things aswell.
    In other words, If any particular set of working class kids dont happen to be doing anything wrong, sure just make something up that they'd sometimes probably do.

    If they arent doing anything wrong today, well they'll definitely do something wrong tomorrow, because thats the nature of working class kids, right?

    Loads of 'sensible people' have problems with kids playing in a canal. Particularly if they are wearing the wrong type of clothes or speaking in the wrong accent.

    Ireland has a 'scumbag problem' alright, except its not the one you think.


  • #248
    Uriel.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    drumswan wrote: »
    Ireland has a 'scumbag problem' alright, except its not the one you think.

    That's because neither crime or anti-social behaviour exist according to you. It's easy to be rosy about everything, when you decide to accept blindness and deafness to problems.

    Nonetheless, those problems don't go away.


  • #249
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Uriel. wrote: »
    That's because neither crime or anti-social behaviour exist according to you. It's easy to be rosy about everything, when you decide to accept blindness and deafness to problems.
    We live in one of the worlds safest, most livable cities, I have no issues with crime or anti-social behaviour in Dublin, much as that seems to upset people on here. I chose to enjoy the canal during the sunny weather instead of spending my time weeping and moaning about working class children.


  • #250
    ankaragucu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭ankaragucu


    drumswan wrote: »
    In other words, If any particular set of working class kids dont happen to be doing anything wrong, sure just make something up that they'd sometimes probably do.

    If they arent doing anything wrong today, well they'll definitely do something wrong tomorrow, because thats the nature of working class kids, right?

    Loads of 'sensible people' have problems with kids playing in a canal. Particularly if they are wearing the wrong type of clothes or speaking in the wrong accent.

    Ireland has a 'scumbag problem' alright, except its not the one you think.

    So in other words, you belong to the group that says there are no knackers and there isnt any anti social behaviour.Anywhere.
    As I've already mentioned I'm working class myself.And working class doesnt = knacker.But there are knackers throughout society.Some of them have bankrupted the country and others have facilitated them.This problem isnt about kids swimming in canals ffs.


  • #251
    Uriel.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    drumswan wrote: »
    We live in one of the worlds safest, most livable cities, I have no issues with crime or anti-social behaviour in Dublin, much as that seems to upset people on here. I chose to enjoy the canal during the sunny weather instead of spending my time weeping and moaning about working class children.

    so you don't see any crime or anti-social behaviour in Dublin?
    Anti-social behaviour or criminality is not limited to the working class either.


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  • #252
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,994 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Ranchu wrote: »
    These are local KIDS.

    As a resident of the area for over a decade all I can say is that these kids have never caused any trouble. They've been jumping in the canal since before you were born. If you're intimidated by the city go live somewhere else. Nothing is going to change.

    Oh so cus they are local kids its alright to harass people, thats fine then.


  • #253
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    ankaragucu wrote: »
    This problem isnt about kids swimming in canals ffs.
    The thread is about people conflating being working class with being scum mate, maybe give it a read.


  • #254
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Uriel. wrote: »
    so you don't see any crime or anti-social behaviour in Dublin?
    Are you taking the piss? Its a city, of course there are crime and anti-social behaviour. These are of a relatively low level and generally restricted to certain areas, as such they do not affect me day to day, nor do I worry about them. I have better things to do than live my life pissing myself with imagined fear every time I see a lad in a tracksuit.


  • #255
    Ranchu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Oh so cus they are local kids its alright to harass people, thats fine then.

    Who are they harassing? I've never been harassed there and I'm there every day for the last decade.


  • #256
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Ranchu wrote: »
    Who are they harassing? I've never been harassed there and I'm there every day for the last decade.

    They are making people who have taken a taxi from Leopardstown to the Grand Canal Theatre uncomfortable, jesus wheres your humanity Ranchu?

    Why should the decent folk of middle Ireland have to look at them? These could be the very sort to kick windows or block footpaths or MURDER YOU IN YOUR BED


  • #257
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    mind you - his "apology" is piss poor - im sorry but......... funk off you twat

    http://lovindublin.com/opinion/apology/
    Seems like a fair enough apology to me


  • #258
    ankaragucu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭ankaragucu


    drumswan wrote: »
    The thread is about people conflating being working class with being scum mate, maybe give it a read.

    Not the brightest if you dont see I've made that exact point.Maybe you need to read what people are saying on here!
    Your perception of how things are seem at odds with most people here.The author rightly or wrongly got lambasted for his piece.The fact that it struck a nerve tells you all you need to know.
    Sometimes stereotypes are right.


  • #259
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    ankaragucu wrote: »
    Your perception of how things are seem at odds with most people here.
    Most people on here are arseholes though, so there you go.

    Im off into town for a jar, wish me luck that I return unharmed! I even have to walk across the canal, say a prayer for me.

    Meanwhile the rest of you can stay home imagining over and over what terrible things people in grey tracksuit bottoms could do to you, maybe go on the internet and circlejerk about your victim fantasies, that sort of thing.


  • #260
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,202 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    drumswan wrote: »
    Most people on here are arseholes though, so there you go.

    Im off into town for a jar, wish me luck that I return unharmed! I even have to walk across the canal, say a prayer for me.

    Meanwhile the rest of you can stay home imagining over and over what terrible things people in grey tracksuit bottoms could do to you, maybe go on the internet and circlejerk about your victim fantasies, that sort of thing.

    Served me time on Barracka in Caaark, biy. And yes, I am an arsehole! :pac::pac::pac:


  • #261
    Uriel.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    drumswan wrote: »
    Are you taking the piss? Its a city, of course there are crime and anti-social behaviour. These are of a relatively low level and generally restricted to certain areas, as such they do not affect me day to day, nor do I worry about them. I have better things to do than live my life pissing myself with imagined fear every time I see a lad in a tracksuit.

    You seem capable enough of creating your own hysteria, granted.


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  • #262
    ankaragucu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭ankaragucu


    Im off into town for a jar, wish me luck that I return unharmed! I even have to walk across the canal, say a prayer for me

    Dont forget your wetsuit!


  • #263
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    It's his blog, presumably he's entitled to his opinions. I might not agree with them (although I do like his food stuff) but he can write what he likes as far as I'm concerned.


  • #264
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    ankaragucu wrote: »
    Im off into town for a jar, wish me luck that I return unharmed! I even have to walk across the canal, say a prayer for me

    Dont forget your wetsuit!

    Just don't make any eye contact with them and ignore abusive comments.


  • #265
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,770 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    smellmepower wrote: »
    Met has 31,000 officers + 2,000 PCSO's
    There's around 10,000 rank and file Gardai.Lot easier for the Met to be proactive in fairness.

    Plus I'd imagine the Met is run a lot more efficiently with a lot less political interference then AGS is.

    The Met have responsibility for policing the Greater London area, which is somewhere in the region of 10 million people according to the last census. On top of that they also have responsibility for counter terrorism, protecting the Royal Family and supplying security to senior members of government. It's not surprising that they have more officers than the Gardai, they are policing almost twice as many people and also policing some of the highest crime areas in all of the UK.
    smellmepower wrote: »
    Have you got a link for the 200 Gardai on duty at Bloom?seems like a ridiculously high number for such a low trouble event.You'd expect a fair amount for traffic control etc but not 200.

    My mistake, it wasn't 200 Gardai policing Bloom in the Park, it was 220 Gardai on top of some 120 stewards
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/flash-bash-gangs-of-teenage-thugs-threaten-peace-of-seaside-resorts-30337271.html

    Aidric wrote: »
    It's also possible to be efficient on limited resources. The Gardai and HSE seem incapable of achieving this.

    Exactly. Senior superintendents with responsibility for policing in Dublin thought it wise and prudent to place 220 officers at a gardening festival at Bloom. What did they think was going to happen at a gardening festival ? For Doris to start a fight with Assumpta over a geranium ?! There was already 120 stewards on duty, there was absolutely no need for 220 Gardai on top of that at a festival that has zero history of trouble. Bloom was a traffic management exercise and nothing more and that does not take 220 Gardai to sort out, especially when there are already 120 stewards employed.

    Fact of the matter is senior superintendents messed up in how to allocate resources. They didn't learn their lessons from last years riots at Portmarnock. Classic sign of a reactive police force, like I said if the Met were policing here then they would have been all over social media and watching what these youths were intending. I'm not saying the Met are any great shakes but the Gardai got it very very wrong on the June Bank Holiday and the writing was already on the wall for them.

    As usual there is zero criticism of senior members of the Gardai in the media over this but the fact of the matter is the trouble out at Howth could have been prevented by allocating resources there before the youths arrived. If they had of seen six or eight Gardai patrolling as soon as they got off the DART then a message would have been sent to them immediately. Because there was no sign of any Gardai on the ground that was a bright green light to them to misbehave. Policing is all about visibility and the Gardai lacked that at Howth yet had it in abundance at Bloom. Disastrous decision who ever made that call IMO.


  • #266
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Looks like the "swimmers" are being dealt with by nature ;)

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/my-child-was-infected-with-flesh-eating-bug-in-dublin-canal-claims-mother-30368404.html


  • #267
    Fussgangerzone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭Fussgangerzone


    gandalf wrote: »
    Looks like the "swimmers" are being dealt with by nature ;)

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/my-child-was-infected-with-flesh-eating-bug-in-dublin-canal-claims-mother-30368404.html

    Bad enough that he got an infection, but if you go through the photos, it appears that 98fm branded the poor child with their name. Sick bastards.


  • #268
    The_Captain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭The_Captain


    gandalf wrote: »
    Looks like the "swimmers" are being dealt with by nature ;)

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/my-child-was-infected-with-flesh-eating-bug-in-dublin-canal-claims-mother-30368404.html

    To be honest, I'm surprised that his fat mother managed to roll herself out of her hovel and get him to the hospital without stopping to get drunk or buy drugs.

    He probably robbed a car on the way, and intimidated some poor soul using his cold dead working class eyes


  • #269
    tawnyowl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭tawnyowl


    Dave! wrote: »
    What do ye make of it? Should we roll out the guillotine?
    Given the article you quoted and this one: http://lovindublin.com/reviews/italian/dublins-incredible-hidden-restaurant-italian-gem-da-mimmo/
    Here's Harbo again:
    The first issue is that it is on the North Strand Road just under the shadow of Croke Park and for those of you who haven’t been here I’d advise renting one of those PSNI trucks they use in the riots and being escorted by a water cannon and police on horseback to ensure safe passage through the Amiens Street area on the way here. This is the Dublin you see in The Commitments with children on street corners sniffing glue and Nidge threatening to pour acid over hooker’s faces. I found a parking space down a side street only to be told by a rough looking ****er that I couldn’t park there. When I said in my best Ranelagh / Tyrone accent that there were “no signs indicating parking restrictions” he pulled out a parking cone (stolen I presume) and told me “this is how we do it around here”. Not wanting to be nailed to a wall by my balls I decided to back down and found another place down the road and kissed goodbye to my car.
    And this little gem:
    It might feel like you are entering the Gaza Strip and you may not get out of the North Strand alive but people have been telling me for ages that some of the best food in Dublin is on the North Side and they weren’t lying.
    It looks like he's a trollish blogger who has finally realised that there is such a thing as bad publicity.


  • #270
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Timely bump, because LovinDublin have published a new blog post today extolling the virtues of the Northside (Stoneybatter, to be specific) as part of a new series – "Damage Control"

    http://lovindublin.com/feature/lovin-dublin-city-spotlight-stoneybatter/
    Lovin Dublin City Spotlight – Stoneybatter

    Sometimes I can be guilty of visiting the same haunts week in and week out- usually my own neighbourhood or the city centre at the weekends. Dublin city has so many beautiful villages, neighbourhoods and streets that are worth exploring. We sat down two weeks ago and decided we needed to showcase all the different areas in the city in their full glory. We wanted to capture their soul, their people, and of course the best places to eat.

    ...


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  • #271
    Davarus Walrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    There was an interview with him in the Times on Saturday.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/the-man-behind-the-harbo-mouthpiece-1.1854164

    He's a bit of a Nathan Barley "self-fulfilling media node". Still, he lives in a nice house in Ranelagh and sold his online business for a couple of million, so I doubt he gives too much of a shít about what the good people of AH think about him.


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