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The John Murray Show

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,259 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Mary O'Rourke carried out revenge on that woman by making a balls of the Eircom sale, and bankrupting the country. I wish she would just go away..

    That "comedy" piece at the start is still dreadful. They should just play the clips of real comedian if the HAVE to have a comedy piece at the start of John Murray's show..

    Haven't listened for ages, does Murray still do his own 'material'?


    Would have thought after the Mickey Harte brouhaha, he'd scrap the segment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    OMG.

    Are we going to be snowed under with Garth Brookes subliminal promos for the next four months.

    This is really terrible rubbish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    Off to work now , thanks fcuk, couldn't face all the midlanders doing Gareth impressions with their awful accents .


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Bellerstring


    What's the angle with Garth Brooks for RTE?
    Shay Byrne announcing a "Press Conference - Yee Haw" yesterday morning, A main item on the 3 o'clock news ffs, and now a whole show by John Murray on a couple of concerts.
    Are garth's people paying up big style for all this???:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    What's the angle with Garth Brooks for RTE?
    Shay Byrne announcing a "Press Conference - Yee Haw" yesterday morning, A main item on the 3 o'clock news ffs, and now a whole show by John Murray on a couple of concerts.
    Are garth's people paying up big style for all this???:confused:

    Don't know what the angle is from RTE,but one thing I do know is there is an angle somewhere.

    Maybe someone more 'in the know' might enlighten us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    What's the angle with Garth Brooks for RTE?
    Shay Byrne announcing a "Press Conference - Yee Haw" yesterday morning, A main item on the 3 o'clock news ffs, and now a whole show by John Murray on a couple of concerts.
    Are garth's people paying up big style for all this???:confused:

    I never have understood why 'some' gigs get huge promotion on RTE. Especially when it all seems to be coming from a presenter's personal favourites. Would also like to know if promoters pay for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I never have understood why 'some' gigs get huge promotion on RTE. Especially when it all seems to be coming from a presenter's personal favourites. Would also like to know if promoters pay for this.

    The brown nosing is very annoying, Apparently Brooks did something like 20 interviews yesterdayin ridiculous time as his flight was delayed.

    BUT its blatantly not an RTE thing and its actually hilarious how so many idiots are suggesting it is and that there is money involved.

    Today FM had a Brooks dedicated Gift Grub and 20 minutes later had an interview with the man. He also had the most pointless phone-in where a woman bemoaned the fact her wedding and her brothers baby was due on the same dates as the concerts. So thats almost a third of my favourite hour of radio gone down the drain, very annoying.
    He got plenty of mentions on Phantom and Nova too while I looked for something bearable to listen to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    only1stevo wrote: »
    The brown nosing is very annoying, Apparently Brooks did something like 20 interviews yesterdayin ridiculous time as his flight was delayed.
    Nothing abnormal about that.
    BUT its blatantly not an RTE thing and its actually hilarious how so many idiots are suggesting it is and that there is money involved.
    Unless you have something to back that up I can't see how you can catergorically claim that it is 'idiocy' to suggest that money or favour may be changing hands here. It seems to go on in every other sphere of public life and has been proven to go on, why would it be different in RTE?
    The curious thing is that these 'gigs' that get heavy mention from hosts seem to eminate from one or two promoters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    Happyman42 wrote: »

    Unless you have something to back that up I can't see how you can catergorically claim that it is 'idiocy' to suggest that money or favour may be changing hands here. It seems to go on in every other sphere of public life and has been proven to go on, why would it be different in RTE?
    The curious thing is that these 'gigs' that get heavy mention from hosts seem to eminate from one or two promoters.

    Complete spoof, not how journalism works.
    The biggest gigs in Ireland are run by the biggest promoters in Ireland. More people go the biggest gigs in Ireland, go figure.
    The best PR companies are paid to promote the biggest gigs.

    And obviously there are un-ethical journalists out there but to suggest the promoters have their grip on a nations media is embarrassing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    ...Unless you have something to back that up I can't see how you can catergorically claim that it is 'idiocy' to suggest that money or favour may be changing hands here. It seems to go on in every other sphere of public life and has been proven to go on, why would it be different in RTE?...
    It's idiotic to make allegations or insinuations of impropriety when you have nothing to back up the suggestion. And the rhetorical tone of your question reveals a lack of evidence. We cannot conduct a useful discussion on the basis that people have an obligation to disprove any and all wild claims.

    Some people see it as cool to proclaim that they don't like Garth Brooks. They are entitled to their preferences. But the fact remains that there are very many people who do, and those people are also entitled to their preferences, and it's quite reasonable that RTÉ cater for that segment of the audience.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    only1stevo wrote: »
    promoters have their grip on a nations media is embarrassing.

    Are we getting a bit over wrought there Gaybo? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Are we getting a bit over wrought there Gaybo? :rolleyes:


    Gaybo?
    Bit early for the homophobic abuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42



    Some people see it as cool to proclaim that they don't like Garth Brooks. They are entitled to their preferences. But the fact remains that there are very many people who do, and those people are also entitled to their preferences, and it's quite reasonable that RTÉ cater for that segment of the audience.

    That's as maybe, I not particularily interested in Garth Brooks, what does interest me is the fact that these 'biggest gigs' seem to come with almost saturation level attention on magazine type programmes and I am interested in how that is achieved by the same promoters, over and over again.
    There are well attended and popular festivals and events(not run by the same promoters mentioned above) that are ignored by RTE too, what is the selection processes at editorial level I wonder? What gets you the level of saturation that the impending Brooks concert is getting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Are we getting a bit over wrought there Gaybo? :rolleyes:
    A delicious irony, in that your post illustrates the very point that is being made against your argument: how can only1stevo prove that he is not Gaybo? And why should he have to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    A delicious irony, in that your post illustrates the very point that is being made against your argument: how can only1stevo prove that he is not Gaybo? And why should he have to?

    He doesn't have to, I didn't ask him to prove it.
    I did ask him to back up his contention that it is 'idiocy to suggest' that there might (I stress 'might' as I only asked a question) be something going on here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Bellerstring


    It's idiotic to make allegations or insinuations of impropriety when you have nothing to back up the suggestion. And the rhetorical tone of your question reveals a lack of evidence. We cannot conduct a useful discussion on the basis that people have an obligation to disprove any and all wild claims.

    Some people see it as cool to proclaim that they don't like Garth Brooks. They are entitled to their preferences. But the fact remains that there are very many people who do, and those people are also entitled to their preferences, and it's quite reasonable that RTÉ cater for that segment of the audience.
    Yeah, but the fcukin 3 o'clock NEWS read by Eileen Dunne!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Garth Brooks speaks to middle Ireland and the mammies, so does RTE. They have something in common.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Yeah, but the fcukin 3 o'clock NEWS read by Eileen Dunne!!!!
    Would it be all right if it had been read by somebody else?

    Many news bulletins include items of less than earth-shaking significance, such as a footballer having a knee injury or an actor getting divorced.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    Despite everything it will be interesting to follow up the 'hype' for this concert.

    Would appear to me anyway,that this lad is in a backwater careerwise and sees Ireland as a kind of cash cow.

    Will be interesting to hear the 'punters' and of course one never can authenticate these phone calls,who call in to say they are putting weddings,honeymoons,huge events off as they clash with this event.

    One would also wonder really and no matter what spin is put on these things RTE will give this one socks.

    The claim is that brooks speaks to 'Middle Ireland' but other acts speak to other segments of the population without even a percentile of the plugging from RTE.

    Like it or not it's a question which needs to be asked if for nothing else but to even up the playing field.

    That my opinion anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    I can't wait for the Chris Gaines concert dates to be announced. Might get a ticket to see that guy :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Listening back to him on Radio One at the moment. Garth Brooks is so full of sh!t, it's quite unbelievable. Murray should be ashamed of himself for giving him such a shameful promo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    I don't buy all this conspiracy nonsense.

    Garth Brooks is hugely popular amongst the segment of the population that RTE 1 aims at (and he's also hugely popular in an ironic kind of way amongst younger people who's Mammies were big fans).

    To fill air time with chatter about Garth Brooks and his come-back concerts is a no-brainer for John Murray's team - easy, cheerful, nostalgic, harmless radio that can be spun out till the concerts themselves.

    Garth Brooks was all over every media outlet in ireland last week - RTE 1 wouldn't want to have missed the opportunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,243 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    I don't buy all this conspiracy nonsense.

    Garth Brooks is hugely popular amongst the segment of the population that RTE 1 aims at (and he's also hugely popular in an ironic kind of way amongst younger people who's Mammies were big fans).

    To fill air time with chatter about Garth Brooks and his come-back concerts is a no-brainer for John Murray's team - easy, cheerful, nostalgic, harmless radio that can be spun out till the concerts themselves.

    Garth Brooks was all over every media outlet in ireland last week - RTE 1 wouldn't want to have missed the opportunity.

    If you think it's bad at the moment, cast your mind back to the mid 90's on 2FM. back then, Gareth O'Callaghan's show was virtually a love letter to Messer Brooks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    I don't buy all this conspiracy nonsense.

    Garth Brooks is hugely popular amongst the segment of the population that RTE 1 aims at (and he's also hugely popular in an ironic kind of way amongst younger people who's Mammies were big fans).

    To fill air time with chatter about Garth Brooks and his come-back concerts is a no-brainer for John Murray's team - easy, cheerful, nostalgic, harmless radio that can be spun out till the concerts themselves.

    Garth Brooks was all over every media outlet in ireland last week - RTE 1 wouldn't want to have missed the opportunity.

    Now ,not wishing to cross swords with you,but I deal quite a lot with young people,and most of them never heard of. mr brooks.

    I think there is a lot more than what you outline behind this.

    Not saying there is anything wrong or underhand like, but seems to me and any person of average intelligence the the promoters of this event , and good luck to them, have the inside trac on this publicity.

    No way this is as big as RTE are pumping it,let's be honest and admit this.

    There's a payback somewhere, that's how commerce works, some people have an 'in. ' and hopefully ,and I have no reason to think otherwise, it's not people on the inside wedging the payout.

    Would hate to think its that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    ...
    There's a payback somewhere, that's how commerce works, some people have an 'in. ' and hopefully ,and I have no reason to think otherwise, it's not people on the inside wedging the payout.

    Would hate to think its that.
    So if you have no reason to think it, and would hate to think it, why do you even mention the possibility?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    So if you have no reason to think it, and would hate to think it, why do you even mention the possibility?

    Because there is always the possibility Pee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Because there is always the possibility Pee.
    Lots of things are possible. I could say that there is a possibility that some person in the public eye has committed rape or embezzled his grandmother's life savings. But I don't know such a thing, nor do I have a reasonable suspicion that such a thing happened. So I don't make such suggestions.

    It's unfair to use innuendo and then make as if what you say is not harmful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    Lots of things are possible. I could say that there is a possibility that some person in the public eye has committed rape or embezzled his grandmother's life savings. But I don't know such a thing, nor do I have a reasonable suspicion that such a thing happened. So I don't make such suggestions.

    It's unfair to use innuendo and then make as if what you say is not harmful.

    Pee, I'm just one person, bit flawed in certain aspects of life.

    I don't hack down opinions and decisions into the nth degree as you seem to delight in.

    All I do is throw out an opinion which seems to have legs and see do other people agree or disagree.

    I'll put you down as disagree then:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,657 ✭✭✭CountyHurler


    The clips, the bad jokes... Oh make it stop... :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    The clips, the bad jokes... Oh make it stop... :(

    Just do what I just did,hit the off button.
    How,I ask myself,how does ANY producer think that hackneyed rubbish is even remotely attractive as a programme intro.

    Would someone please tell me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,737 ✭✭✭sudzs


    Listening for the first time in ages... it is awful dross. The "jokes" are toe-curling bad. A clip of an Australian band was awful and now JOhn want's to be a rock star. I'm cringing. :( Time for the off button.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,995 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    The clips, the bad jokes... Oh make it stop... :(

    Off button? Or retune?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Now ,not wishing to cross swords with you,but I deal quite a lot with young people,and most of them never heard of. mr brooks.

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/01/28/could-have-missed-the-rain-but-id-have-had-to-miss-the-dance/

    They're mad for it Joe!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭ttenneb


    The problem with the John Murray show is that he thinks he's being funny, and the awful truth is that he's awful. If the producers altered the format to a straight-talking magazine programme it might be a little more palatable. But my OFF button gets a rapid whack once the news is over. Lyric and Beeb 4 are an antidote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Unfortunately for me, Lyric is equally as bad, as any time I switch over Marty seems to be off on one of his rants involving various ridiculous characters "writing to him". Play the ****ing music, Marty, and STFU.

    Back on topic, I used to have the height of regard for John Murray when he was doing the business show on a Saturday morning - IMO it was the perfect fit for him. He managed to lighten what were often fairly boring topics with his wit and banter. But the current format of his show is a disaster for me - despite longing for his return after months of Miriam, I too I'm afraid reach for the "off" button.

    < If the producers altered the format to a straight-talking magazine programme it might be a little more palatable.>

    This, in spades.

    Sorry, John, if you're reading this...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Agree 100% with you, he had Aled Jones on the other morning and he kept trying to make him sing that song We're walking in the air. Aled clearly didn't want to do it but he kept at him till he gave in. Very embarrassing and very bad interview.

    He does this regularly to other guests, this show should either be cancelled or he should be replaced with someone better.:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Unfortunately for me, Lyric is equally as bad, as any time I switch over Marty seems to be off on one of his rants involving various ridiculous characters "writing to him". Play the ****ing music, Marty, and STFU.

    Back on topic, I used to have the height of regard for John Murray when he was doing the business show on a Saturday morning - IMO it was the perfect fit for him. He managed to lighten what were often fairly boring topics with his wit and banter. But the current format of his show is a disaster for me - despite longing for his return after months of Miriam, I too I'm afraid reach for the "off" button.

    < If the producers altered the format to a straight-talking magazine programme it might be a little more palatable.>

    This, in spades.

    Sorry, John, if you're reading this...

    Exactly, get rid of the terrible intros and the reality radio aspect and it just might be worth the odd listen.

    Have to say that John is definitely not suited to this format.

    Cannot figure out how it's still there in exactly the same format.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Exactly, get rid of the terrible intros and the reality radio aspect and it just might be worth the odd listen.
    Including, I would hope, most of the Operation Transformation stuff.
    Have to say that John is definitely not suited to this format.
    Who would be? I think the problem is the format rather than the presenter.
    Cannot figure out how it's still there in exactly the same format.
    It reflects a common human failing, that I describe as loyalty to one's mistakes. A person or team who drew up the programme brief might not be willing to concede that they got it wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,162 ✭✭✭mrsdewinter


    In fairness, the presenter is not the show's biggest problem. The other morning, in yet another tie-in with Operation Transformation, he went live to a - what was it again? a blood pressure? a diabetes testing? road show somewhere in town?
    Listening to people having their blood drawn has to be up there with watching paint dry.
    And the presenter wasn't responsible for that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    In fairness...
    A novel approach to discussion here!
    ... the presenter is not the show's biggest problem. The other morning, in yet another tie-in with Operation Transformation, he went live to a - what was it again? a blood pressure? a diabetes testing? road show somewhere in town?
    Listening to people having their blood drawn has to be up there with watching paint dry.
    And the presenter wasn't responsible for that...
    Over 50 years ago Din Joe had a great success with a programme that involved dancing on the radio. It may be that there are people in RTÉ trying to replicate that: think of something that seems unsuited to radio, and let's see if we can make it work.

    There is nothing wrong with setting yourself challenges, being a bit adventurous. What is wrong is persisting with things when clearly they are not working.

    [Mind you, I'd rather visualise people having their blood drawn on radio than watch it on television.]


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    In fairness, the presenter is not the show's biggest problem. The other morning, in yet another tie-in with Operation Transformation, he went live to a - what was it again? a blood pressure? a diabetes testing? road show somewhere in town?
    Listening to people having their blood drawn has to be up there with watching paint dry.
    And the presenter wasn't responsible for that...

    I'm afraid I will have to disagree.

    That "show" could possibly be carried off by someone with less baggage and a looser personality.

    The late G Ryan could have made that terrible format work, Byrne could have made it work,Mike Murphy too.

    Murray is too tight and clenched and forced,not his bag.

    This is an attempt at reality radio,with the wrong presenter.

    Too forced,too wooden,too contrived,why can't they see that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,657 ✭✭✭CountyHurler


    What the fk was that???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Oh this weight loss programme is really unrealistic. A person loses 1.5 pounds and they are battering her. Anyone losing 7 pounds a week will not sustain it, much healthier to lose small amounts gradually.
    Ugh. And idiots believe this crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,737 ✭✭✭sudzs


    Magic knickers... hair colour... make up... make a statement with your glasses.

    What a pile of vacuous shyte. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    sudzs wrote: »
    Magic knickers... hair colour... make up... make a statement with your glasses.

    What a pile of vacuous shyte. :(

    We have been saying that for quite a long time,so it must be shyte :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,657 ✭✭✭CountyHurler


    Caught the "comedy" piece again... John adopting that stupid voice and playing a load of youtube clips.. Do RTE have any idea how bad it is... I'm amazed that a company who is so terrified of litigation even allowed the segment to continue after a couple of the stupid things he's come out with..

    "We have our own version of Watergate.. What will the movie be called .. 'All the Garda Siochana's men'? "

    RTE, please make it stop.. Move him back to The Business or move him off the thing altogether..


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Bellerstring


    I'm amazed that this show has an average of over 300,000 listeners according to the last TAM ratings.
    That's more than ANY show on Newstalk.
    Yates and Donohue have only half the listenership of this!!
    It even has more than Pat Kenny.
    Maybe that's why they won't move him....:mad:
    Dreadful show, dreadful presenter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    I'm amazed that this show has an average of over 300,000 listeners according to the last TAM ratings.
    That's more than ANY show on Newstalk.
    Yates and Donohue have only half the listenership of this!!
    It even has more than Pat Kenny.
    Maybe that's why they won't move him....:mad:
    Dreadful show, dreadful presenter.

    Just goes to show that people are very slow to change radio stations. Murray is lucky that he follows Morning Ireland. It's the only reason I can think as to why his rubbish gets so many listeners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    Never listen to it,but unfortunately was caught in a car with someone who had it on yesterday.

    Kathryn Thomas on with the 'weigh in' as if it was the most nerve wracking event in a persons life.

    Pure and utter rubbish in the extreme.

    As I think Harry Angstom said people are too lazy to move the dial,they just leave the radio on till SOR comes on.

    I have a lot of respect for RTE Radio 1 but this 'show' is the pits.

    Wrong presenter,wrong show.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭jr22


    I think an hour long show featuring just the sound of the heavies from Operation Transformation being smacked on the arse with a hurley would be more interesting.


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