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Atlantic Storm Watch: December 2013

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    In the last half hour gust of 80km/h at my station in Waterford City and 107km/h at the more coastal Waterford Airport.

    www.waterfordcityweather.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    91km/h gust reported at EICK in the last hour. ATC reported 55kts to RYR557H


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Christmas decorations reported blown down in Oliver Plunkett Street Cork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,441 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    It's a rotten day in cork. You wouldn't put a dog out in it. The basketball net out the parents back garden decided it wanted a closer look at the ground. :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    62kt or 115km/h now the Max at Waterford Airport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭LordNorbury


    Several "go arounds" at Dublin Airport in the last hour, 3 aircraft just diverted to Shannon & Belfast...

    You can listen to Dublin ATC here...


    http://www.liveatc.net/flisten.php?mount=eidw3&icao=eidw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,321 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Just drove into dublin city. Lots of signs blown down, and because of the rain loads of people have umbrellas. Never saw so many broken umbrellas thrown in bins or just left on the street. And people carrying inside out umbrellas
    Do people have no cop on that an umbrella is pointless in this wind?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,999 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Should I skip a plan to hike the Sally Gap to Djouce Mountain in Wicklow tomorrow do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Not long now before the front clears eastwards.

    http://www.sat24.com/en/gb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,441 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Nice day in cork now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭mountainy man


    Not long now before the front clears eastwards.

    http://www.sat24.com/en/gb

    Starting to see some blue skies here now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Seriously strange manoeuvre by a Ryanair jet there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭arse..biscuits


    4 Ridge tiles blown off my shed. I climbed up on top to nail the next one down before it blew off too and I nearly blew off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    12Z GFS has a 940mb low to our northwest on Wednesday/Thursday.

    Need to keep an eye on it in case it tracks closer to us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    R953r aborted its approach really early and went north,

    Another plane attempting approach now.

    Looks like 953 is going to Shannon!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    951F aborted landing too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Tomorrow morning will be windy again for the west and northwest coasts, with storm force winds possible for a brief time. The powerful low will be well out at sea though.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Well, it just blew over our gate lamp which has stood there since 1978!!

    It seems to have completely calmed down in Cork anyway so I assume the storm's moved on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    Seriously strange manoeuvre by a Ryanair jet there!

    That's gas. I work in the airport so I know an unusual approach when I see one. I was on Donabate beach with the mutt and that made both of is look up :)
    It was very low over us, I can't imagine any higher than 2500ft.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭clownface95


    Hi just a quick question for ye! ive a aer lingus flight at 9 in the morning on monday departing from dublin airport, just abit paranoid with all the news of the bad weather! Should i be worried?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Kaizersoze81


    Power just gone in my road in d15 lights flickered then gone. Hope this is fixed soon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 767 ✭✭✭SimonQuinlank


    Power just gone in my road in d15 lights flickered then gone. Hope this is fixed soon

    Have a look on the ESB Powercheck site,gives an estimated time of restoration.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    12Z ECM is showing an intense 950mb (and deepening) low to our west on Wednesday (96 hours).

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  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭Strangegravy


    12Z ECM is showing an intense 950mb (and deepening) low to our west on Wednesday (96 hours).

    cmXqkMP.gif

    This is the one to watch I think, could still head further north but if not it'll be one hell of a wind storm hitting us...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭vistafinder


    Hi just a quick question for ye! ive a aer lingus flight at 9 in the morning on monday departing from dublin airport, just abit paranoid with all the news of the bad weather! Should i be worried?


    Forecast looks ok for Monday


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    This is the one to watch I think, could still head further north but if not it'll be one hell of a wind storm hitting us...

    Yes, it's one to keep an eye on for sure. Low probability but high risk if it turned out like this.

    jvbVHMS.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    Its windier now than it has been all day just as that band of rain passes by now here in Galway really quite vicious!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    A squall line moving east?

    284623.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    Some heavy, blustery showers over Galway city atm
    The most recent one produced a gust of 48mph - the strongest of the day


  • Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭Applause


    Just had a very strong gust in southern Limerick city, it was as loud as thunder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭The Assistinator


    very wet(lots of it) and windy day in donegal nothing out of the ordinary here just lots of water laying.:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,654 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Dodging a bullet today, the K4 buoy west of Donegal Bay (UK neighbour to M4) reports sustained winds of 48 knots but these very strong winds are heading north, however ... most guidance is converging on a severe wind storm on Wednesday evening, emanating from the tail of the current U.S. snowstorm which is (as of 06z) about 1000 mbs near the New Jersey coast. The portion of this system which will generate the Wednesday event is not yet in evidence but all the more reliable models develop it -- the GFS is currently most concerning with an extreme westerly gradient by 18z covering the northwest quadrant of Ireland. I don't want to be too alarmist as the GFS has a bit of a reputation for over-deepening but the depiction is only marginally different from the other models, which would support 45-50 knot sustained winds and 65-70 knot gusts (mainly from Galway Bay north but could be almost similar elsewhere). The GFS map at present would be more like 60 knots gusting to 100. As this event is now 84-90 hours out, we need to reboot this thread with a level 2 advisory for Wednesday night (what comes before and after looks no worse than what was seen yesterday, at this point). The GFS map would be pretty close to a level 3 which I don't recall having seen used here yet.

    Well, let's hope this does not prove to be quite that intense, but I assume it will be all hands on deck as this becomes apparent to all during the morning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    Yeah Wednesday is looking pretty severe. I for one am hoping for a level 3. Is that selfish of me? ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Tactical


    Weathering wrote: »
    Yeah Wednesday is looking pretty severe. I for one am hoping for a level 3. Is that selfish of me? ha

    Nah, I'm in the same boat as you.
    I love a good wind (as long as no one gets hurt). To feel the power and ferocity of nature is awsome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    There is an upgraded Met Eireann orange warning for this morning. Up to 120 km/h gusts possible, but its a brief period of strong winds.

    Belmullet recorded a 116 km/h gust.
    STATUS ORANGE

    Wind Warning for Donegal, Mayo and Sligo

    Southerly winds of 45 to 60 km/h on Sunday morning with gusts of 90 to 120 km/hr.

    Issued:
    Sunday 15 December 2013 09:00
    Valid:
    Sunday 15 December 2013 09:00 to Sunday 15 December 2013 13:00


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    06Z GFS showing gales along western coastal counties on Wednesday, storm force on northwest coasts. Winder than Saturday morning and this morning, but nothing exceptional for those areas at all on this model, the type of event you'd see a couple of times a year usually. Needs to be watched though as the potential for a more severe event is there due to the uncertainty that still remains, though we almost always see winds getting downgraded the closer you get to day 0.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭dopolahpec


    I think Wednesday storm will show the usual trend and eventually move more to the north west and may eventually not be too severe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭tylercollins


    Met Office UK already have a warning for Thursdays event. I don't think I've seen a warning out so early from them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭tylercollins


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    Latest run has this low just north of us with the low having a center of 955!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭dopolahpec


    gfs-0-84.png?12?12

    Latest run has this low just north of us with the low having a center of 955!!

    What kind of windspeeds would we see from that? Looks ugly


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭tylercollins


    gusting to around 130 km/h


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    12Z GFS is more intense for the west coast on Wednesday than the 06Z run.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭tylercollins


    I'm far from an expert but this looks like a very similar setup to boxing day 1998??

    Boxin Day 1998
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    19th December 2013
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    I'm far from an expert but this looks like a very similar setup to boxing day 1998??

    Boxin Day 1998
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    19th December 2013
    gfs-0-84.png?12?12


    It is notable that both have areas of high presure to the south.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Just a windy day Wednesday on the 12Z UKMO, not even a closed low at 72 hours.

    UW72-21.GIF?15-18

    While the 12Z GEM has a 950mb low but the strongest winds are further northwest.

    gem-0-78.png?12

    Considerable uncertainty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    I never trust the UKM GM to get the detail of a low. Often underestimates low intensities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Worrying ECMWF

    Severe Storm tracking towards north-western Ireland

    ECM1-72.GIF


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    ECMWF would lead to damaging winds for western and northern parts of Ireland.

    Gusts would easily exceed 130km/hr

    We miss the crucial 84hr chart here. But when i get it on weather underground later it will not be nice viewing. Potential for a significant storm, which will need a new thread.

    -If ECMWF occurred i would expect the highest level of warning from Met Eireann.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    GFS and ECM at 72 hours. ECM has a more intense low at that time, with 850mb winds over 100 knots. A huge difference from the UKMO, hard to believe it's 72 hours.

    GFS :

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    ECM :

    KTuNpwN.gif

    And 96 hours the ECM has deepened the low to 941mb southwest of the Faroe Islands.

    7VziC8i.gif


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    I never trust the UKM GM to get the detail of a low. Often underestimates low intensities.

    I think the UKMO works on a lower resolution after 48hrs than ECM or others, hence the somewhat more over-simplistic, smoother look of their charts. Despite this, I would say the UKMO tends to handle explosive storm tracks better than other models overall. (just my opinion)

    New Moon



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