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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭the lawman


    Been out for a few weeks with a hip muscle issue so was delighted to get to the range today. Went through the full bag and happy with the outcome. Driver was in good shape and irons were also being hit well. Allowed for a little rustiness of course.

    Problem I'm having now and one ill get a lesson for is the hybrid. I'm really struggling with it. I'm stuck between a long iron swing and a wood swing. Just completely lost and its very frustrating. I will get a lesson once I'm back swinging regularly and it's what I'll be working on this winter.

    Happy to say that I'm finally only worried about certain clubs now after a year of changes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭the greatest game


    playing a lot of golf on average 4-5 games a week over 14 holes, The game is very good.. Driving the ball best ever for the last few months, very very few scratchs, and I am dissapointed with bogeys and getting birdies in lots of rounds, and 2 birdies in some rounds.
    The more you play the more you learn, do not play towards trouble, avoid rookie errors like playing through a gap in the tree's to gaine 20 yards .. I was a divil for this.. switched from a long putter back to a regular putter and thats made a big difference too..


  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭Dossy


    I played the weekend, lately ive been getting few lessons as i want to get more into Golf and play long term got my official handicap and played comps for the first time this summer. Ive gone from a 24.1 to 22.8 in 5 months.

    Ive had everything broken down by the Pro, new grip, which seems fine now but still working on it so i dont slip back to the old one, new swing which is working great, just a case now of practice practice practice......I normally go out myself for practice and play 6 holes or go to the nets and hit balls.

    On Saturday i was waiting for the end of the groups to go out as the Club Singles were on, i ended up meeting a lad who arrived late and had no one to go out with so i said ill mark your card and played the comp.

    Im a 22.8 handicap and unknown to me this guy was playing off 5....i was freaked as i thought i was too **** to even be in the same group as him but the long and short of it was that i played better and even having 2 scratches i hit 37pts, Delighted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    So 3 lessons in,

    After some good initial progress, had a bad week, in fact, turned away from course due to mental wind on wednesday, not like me, but went to range to work on changes instead. Have blisters on hands from practice, need to lay off a bit.

    At lesson 3 was struggling with ott on driver, we worked on standing a bit taller, was hunched and coming on backswing on the inside too quick, a bit of progress, and was even drawing the ball at end.

    4 key issues
    right knee collapsing on backswing
    Ott - getting away with it on irons, driver and long irons in trouble.
    Poor weight transfer
    Not always releasing

    Sometimes i'm determined, but then i go , that all sounds like so much wrong.
    I asked my pro , should , I just hit an iron off the tee, I have the distance with an iron for most courses,
    She said, that is not golf, you are good enough to hit a driver. I agree it is not golf, but.........


    Got out for 9 today. Very cold, but great, have gear, that grey colour all around.
    played well, +3 with a 3 putt.

    If the truth be known I don't know if it was the old or new swing, but when i'm playing , I try just to play.

    only 2 drives, both on fairway, but slight fade.

    Stick at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,672 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    went to range to work on changes instead. Have blisters on hands from practice, need to lay off a bit.

    That doesn't sound like something you'd be prone to doing there Fix :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    That doesn't sound like something you'd be prone to doing there Fix :D

    was at the range since i said that :o

    put plasters on, she asked me was i fixing something in house,,,,, "em, yes".

    Out in morning.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,806 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    Not sure!

    Haven't been practicing as been away a lot with work and have only played 2 rounds in about 6 weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Ben1977


    At the moment my game is steady, but everytime i enter a green side bunker it ends in a scratch. I either thin it or catch it clean. My playing partner said I even looked uncomfortable in the bunker today. Something to work on during the winter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Tones69


    Happy enough, ended season on 8.8. Deffo aiming to get to 5/6 for next year with practice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭alxmorgan


    Feeling pretty good about it at the moment. Hadn't played 18 in a few weeks but got a monkey off my back by finally shooting a decent score round Adare.

    Shot my handicap and also got my first ever point on 18 (just about) :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Danny dyers double


    I went for my first lesson 2 months ago and the pro told me my grip was poor and showed me how to put It right . But only now is It starting to feel comfortable and Im trusting It .

    Im a right hander but only now and i realizing that its my left hand thats my strongest when swinging . I wss always trying to hit with my right hand if this makes any sense .

    My last few rounds iv being really slow to start as in scrathing first 2 or 3 holes and then playing to my HC from there on out but i really think its a mental thing at this stage .

    The weakest part of my game is off the tee but iv a decent enough short game for a 28 handicap player .

    A few wicked slices in my round yesterday which is a concern but also some good shots from 100+ yards into greens . So to sum It up there is room for inprovment but Im sure every golfer on here would say the same


  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭Dossy


    At the moment my game seems to be going ok, last few rounds iv hit 34pts plus, Finally seemed to have sorted myself out off the tee which has always been a prob, im using a 3w but im only 20-30yds behind the lads,

    Iv had 3 lessons so far but have really been putting in the time at the practice nets aswell as going out for practice few holes in the evenings

    My plan now is keeping the head down for the winter and trying to do good practice sessions.....anyone have a few routines they would like to share apart from working on what the Pro says??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭superhooper


    Played 9 holes today on my own for a bit of practice. Was coming up a fairway and the guy playing down the adjacent fairway hooked his ball onto my fairway. No worries. He said for to play my ball first which was past his.Cool. Took my shot and he goes wow your swing is just like Jim Furyks !!!:eek: I'd love to what Furyk does but I't won't happen for me!!! Time for lessons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,430 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Just back from the range. Working on hitting down on the ball slightly more than I do (zero divots ever).

    Was flying them out there, strange feeling but was getting some distance with the 4i with minimal effort.

    Even got the club head to carry 50 yards....

    Looks like I'll be getting the extra wedge after all :)
    (Pro is gluing it back for me...when he finds it)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Working on putting a draw in at the minute. Find it pretty easy with the irons but losing a bit of distance. The main reason is to use it with the driver so I won't slice.

    Worked well today for a few holes then went back to a slice until I took a step back. Found my old swing was taking over with an out to in and not following through. After adjusting again they went either straight or a slight draw. Really hoping I can keep it up and make it my normal shot.
    I have a habit of getting it right for a few holes or even a full game only to come back out and feel like I'm doing the same thing but hitting a slice all over again. So for now its Grip,stance,ball position - keep right elbow close and follow through.

    Oh, I got a second hand 56 Deg Nike off the local pro only for it to fall apart two weeks later so until he can source a new shaft I'm stuck without one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭mafc


    My game is in pretty good shape and has become more consistent. I have managed to break 80 twenty two times this year with +1 & +2 my best cards.
    Driving the ball better than ever and manage to scramble well if I dont hit greens in regulation. Putting is my strongest averaging 30 per round.
    Really want to push on & try to get the so far elusive sub par round. Hopefully it will come sooner rather than later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭ssbob


    mafc wrote: »
    My game is in pretty good shape and has become more consistent. I have managed to break 80 twenty two times this year with +1 & +2 my best cards.
    Driving the ball better than ever and manage to scramble well if I dont hit greens in regulation. Putting is my strongest averaging 30 per round.
    Really want to push on & try to get the so far elusive sub par round. Hopefully it will come sooner rather than later.

    @ mafc: Man you are playing some serious golf, do you keep solid stats? I would be interested to know your putting averages for GIR and total putting as well as your GIR %

    Considering your prob averaging 40% of your shots on putting (30/75) maybe this is an area you can improve even more with the least amount of technical effort?


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭mafc


    ssbob wrote: »
    @ mafc: Man you are playing some serious golf, do you keep solid stats? I would be interested to know your putting averages for GIR and total putting as well as your GIR %

    Considering your prob averaging 40% of your shots on putting (30/75) maybe this is an area you can improve even more with the least amount of technical effort?

    Would keep fairly solid stats, have a few high end 80's and even a 90 + included.

    Putting for last 50 rounds reads: 1.69 per hole
    1.92 per GIR.. only 33% greens hit
    Scrambling is 35% so perhaps that means my short game is relatively good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭ssbob


    mafc wrote: »
    Would keep fairly solid stats, have a few high end 80's and even a 90 + included.

    Putting for last 50 rounds reads: 1.69 per hole
    1.92 per GIR.. only 33% greens hit
    Scrambling is 35% so perhaps that means my short game is relatively good

    Excellent stats although reckon someone as good as you should prob be a little better in the GIR stakes, take no advice from me though, my GIR % is 15% over last 50 but climbing to 18% over last 20.

    It's funny though how many putts we take in comparison to total shots played!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭mafc


    ssbob wrote: »
    Excellent stats although reckon someone as good as you should prob be a little better in the GIR stakes, take no advice from me though, my GIR % is 15% over last 50 but climbing to 18% over last 20.

    It's funny though how many putts we take in comparison to total shots played!

    Played 9 this afternoon:
    37 (+1) fairways 4/7
    GIR 4/9
    Putts 14
    Would love to hit more greens in reg however I never worry too much if I miss as I am capable of getting up & down regularly
    Scrambled egg for tea :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭benny79


    hey lads how do you work out your stats?
    just write them down as your playing or something! I'm a high HC (20) and have improved at all last 2 years after lessons and plenty of prastise so maybe im working on the wrong things..

    cheers in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭ssbob


    benny79 wrote: »
    hey lads how do you work out your stats?
    just write them down as your playing or something! I'm a high HC (20) and have improved at all last 2 years after lessons and plenty of prastise so maybe im working on the wrong things..

    cheers in advance

    Golfshot app or something similar, plenty of threads on here if you go searching!


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭mafc


    ssbob wrote: »
    Golfshot app or something similar, plenty of threads on here if you go searching!

    Golfshot lite app....


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 digginz


    After a disastrous round (>150) a few weeks ago, I've worked hard on the range and on the course. I realized that my grip and backswing was wrong and I'm working on fixing it


    I've shots 108 today on a casual round which is my personal best.

    Plenty of works to do but it's good to see the work is paying.

    best stats of the day is ended up in 3 greenside bunker and got out and on the green the 3 times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Going well.

    Played 12 today - would have liked 18 - but Christmas , kids etc.

    Was 2 over for the 12 holes - everything in decent order. Only 4 bad shots all day. 2 OTT slice on a drive. One bad chip.
    Then from 90 yards struggled to control that distance - I seem to be ok at 75 and 100 to 110. Week in that gap.

    Odd iron a little thin.

    So 3 boggies
    1 birdie
    8 Pars.

    Happy enough to be in good form at this time of year. Out in morning again. Hopefully for 18.

    By the way lads , if you can get out in that at all - do. Amazing - short sleeves for 8 of them.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭lester76


    Not hit a ball in over 2wks. So to my delight got out early was +4 thru 10 25pts then had 3 bloody 3putts for 3 dbs finished with 42pts 83strokes off 17 :) putter again letting me down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Mr. Larson


    My short game is so bad at the moment it's not true and Winter Golf really exposes that on my home course because it's so short off the forward tees.

    Long game is fine. Give me a mid to long iron or a Hybrid and I stand a better chance of hitting the green than I do from inside 110yds and that's no exaggeration. Never really miss from the tee. -5 for the two Par 5's in my last 2 rounds. Level Par for the longer Par 4's but it's the holes where I'm approaching the green from 110yds and in where I walk off with 1 pointers or scratches.

    PW goes 125 with a regular swing, I can force it 130 but rarely need to. My 50 degree GW only goes 90 and any kind of wind could make that 70. It's too big a gap, I'm either coming up short into trouble or air-mailing the green.

    I've made time to practice a bit and can hit all kinds of shots around the green in practice, pitches that release, pitches that check up slightly, high pitches, chip and runs. Get me to the golf course and my anxiety at how poor I am compounds the issue and I'm like a very poor 20 handicapper around the greens.

    Very frustrated golfer at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,672 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Mr. Larson wrote: »
    My short game is so bad at the moment it's not true and Winter Golf really exposes that on my home course because it's so short off the forward tees.

    Long game is fine. Give me a mid to long iron or a Hybrid and I stand a better chance of hitting the green than I do from inside 110yds and that's no exaggeration. Never really miss from the tee. -5 for the two Par 5's in my last 2 rounds. Level Par for the longer Par 4's but it's the holes where I'm approaching the green from 110yds and in where I walk off with 1 pointers or scratches.

    PW goes 125 with a regular swing, I can force it 130 but rarely need to. My 50 degree GW only goes 90 and any kind of wind could make that 70. It's too big a gap, I'm either coming up short into trouble or air-mailing the green.

    I've made time to practice a bit and can hit all kinds of shots around the green in practice, pitches that release, pitches that check up slightly, high pitches, chip and runs. Get me to the golf course and my anxiety at how poor I am compounds the issue and I'm like a very poor 20 handicapper around the greens.

    Very frustrated golfer at the moment.

    Would you consider clubbing down on the shorter holes from the tee instead to leave you a distance in that you're happy hitting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Mr. Larson


    Would you consider clubbing down on the shorter holes from the tee instead to leave you a distance in that you're happy hitting?

    That's band-aiding the problem and won't help me cure my rubbish short game... plus I'm already dropping to 3 woods and hybrids on a lot of holes already... BUT I might give that a go next time. Hybrid might be the answer on some holes as opposed to 3 Wood. At least I'll have a full wedge in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,430 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Mr. Larson wrote: »
    PW goes 125 with a regular swing, I can force it 130 but rarely need to. My 50 degree GW only goes 90 and any kind of wind could make that 70. It's too big a gap, I'm either coming up short into trouble or air-mailing the green.

    I had a similar problem between my 48 and 54, I have got the gap to where it should be now, but at the time I was losing an awful lot of yardage from the 54 as I had a fear of hitting the 54 with a full swing...less forgiving club etc. I just wasn't committing.
    Happy with it now though.

    You're a lot lower HC than me, I'm sure that isn't the issue, have you got a Pro to have a look at possible reasons? Vastly different clubs/shafts between the PW and 50?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Mr. Larson


    PARlance wrote: »
    I had a similar problem between my 48 and 54, I have got the gap to where it should be now, but at the time I was losing an awful lot of yardage from the 54 as I had a fear of hitting the 54 with a full swing...less forgiving club etc. I just wasn't committing.
    Happy with it now though.

    You're a lot lower HC than me, I'm sure that isn't the issue, have you got a Pro to have a look at possible reasons? Vastly different clubs/shafts between the PW and 50?

    It's a new set of wedges I got. Moved to Taylormade ATV which are better than my Clevelands for shots around the green but the 50 degree I just hit way way higher than the 50 degree Cleveland I have. In fact the harder I hit it, the higher it goes. It's that plus the irons I have have got stronger lofts. (X Hot Pro) so my PW is probably a closer to a conventional 9iron. So the gap has widened both ends.

    Not something they warn you about when you're buying the stronger lofted clubs of course :) I think I just need to learn how to take something off the PW. 90-100yds carry has to be a PW now because the current GW might carry 90 at a push but it will spin back 5... My issue is that when I try to swing easy at the PW I hit it very well. Maybe down the grip with each 10yd bucket might be the way forward...

    TBH I think I need to learn how to not hit the PW flat out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Nice casual round today. One bird, 4 pars, one double on a par three Ggggrrrrr. The rest tap in bogeys.


  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭Dossy


    Mr. Larson wrote: »
    It's a new set of wedges I got. Moved to Taylormade ATV which are better than my Clevelands for shots around the green but the 50 degree I just hit way way higher than the 50 degree Cleveland I have. In fact the harder I hit it, the higher it goes. It's that plus the irons I have have got stronger lofts. (X Hot Pro) so my PW is probably a closer to a conventional 9iron. So the gap has widened both ends.

    Not something they warn you about when you're buying the stronger lofted clubs of course :) I think I just need to learn how to take something off the PW. 90-100yds carry has to be a PW now because the current GW might carry 90 at a push but it will spin back 5... My issue is that when I try to swing easy at the PW I hit it very well. Maybe down the grip with each 10yd bucket might be the way forward...

    TBH I think I need to learn how to not hit the PW flat out.

    I only said this today, i also have the problem with the PW and my 52*
    Thinking of getting it bent to 50*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,430 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Dossy wrote: »
    I only said this today, i also have the problem with the PW and my 52*
    Thinking of getting it bent to 50*

    What loft or make is your PW Dossy, if it's anyway new it's likely a 45* PW.
    A 7* gap is probably too big.

    Can you get a loft bent? Thought it was just lie angle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭Dossy


    PARlance wrote: »
    What loft or make is your PW Dossy, if it's anyway new it's likely a 45* PW.
    A 7* gap is probably too big.

    Can you get a loft bent? Thought it was just lie angle.

    My PW is a Titleist AP1 not sure what loft, my 52* is a Vokey
    I got my 3 iron bent before as i used to hit 3 iron off the tee before,
    Fairly sure you can do the same with wedges


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,430 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Dossy wrote: »
    My PW is a Titleist AP1 not sure what loft, my 52* is a Vokey
    I got my 3 iron bent before as i used to hit 3 iron off the tee before,
    Fairly sure you can do the same with wedges

    Think your PW is 44* so
    http://www.titleist.com/golf-clubs/irons/AP1.aspx

    Some sites have it at 45* but you'd have to go with the Titleist site.

    You'll see that they have 2 additional wedges on offer at 48 and 52 as part of the set, from what I've seen, these are generally just on sale to the US market.

    Anyway, back to the trouble of distances between your PW and 52... You should be having some trouble here, there should be another wedge sitting in between them, even 50 doesn't bridge the gap enough. I'd add a 48 and keep the 52 as is.

    I carry my Mizuno JPX 800 PW (45*) and my vokey 48.... People ask why I have 2 PW's in the bag.... They're not both PW's, the manufacturers have decreased the loft (so they can sell extra distance) over the years. My PW just used to be called a 9 iron :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭Dossy


    PARlance wrote: »
    Think your PW is 44* so
    http://www.titleist.com/golf-clubs/irons/AP1.aspx

    Some sites have it at 45* but you'd have to go with the Titleist site.

    You'll see that they have 2 additional wedges on offer at 48 and 52 as part of the set, from what I've seen, these are generally just on sale to the US market.

    Anyway, back to the trouble of distances between your PW and 52... You should be having some trouble here, there should be another wedge sitting in between them, even 50 doesn't bridge the gap enough. I'd add a 48 and keep the 52 as is.

    I carry my Mizuno JPX 800 PW (45*) and my vokey 48.... People ask why I have 2 PW's in the bag.... They're not both PW's, the manufacturers have decreased the loft (so they can sell extra distance) over the years. My PW just used to be called a 9 iron :)

    Im going to the range tomorrow and writting down my carry yardage again, ill have a look around for the 48* so, Thanks for the advice

    Ya the way things are going with the manufactures people will be able to hit a lob wedge 150yds in 3yrs time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,430 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Dossy wrote: »
    Im going to the range tomorrow and writting down my carry yardage again, ill have a look around for the 48* so, Thanks for the advice

    Ya the way things are going with the manufactures people will be able to hit a lob wedge 150yds in 3yrs time :)

    Might be worth trying a 48, it's a massive gap considering the distances involved and how much it counts for scoring.

    I'd happily have that jump and leave a 4i out of the bag and play 3i and 5i.
    It wouldn't make a huge difference to me.

    But you shouldn't be having such a gap around the 100 yard mark.
    I've just started to do this, it takes a while to convince yourself the PW is actually a 9i but once you do, you'll be a lot happier from where it counts IMO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭Dossy


    PARlance wrote: »
    Might be worth trying a 48, it's a massive gap considering the distances involved and how much it counts for scoring.

    I'd happily have that jump and leave a 4i out of the bag and play 3i and 5i.
    It wouldn't make a huge difference to me.

    But you shouldn't be having such a gap around the 100 yard mark.
    I've just started to do this, it takes a while to convince yourself the PW is actually a 9i but once you do, you'll be a lot happier from where it counts IMO.

    Ya im defo gonna try the 48 out and as you said leaving out the 4i isnt a big deal to me either, i notmally using the 3i anyway

    I really notice the gap in the last 3 rounds, 2 holes on my local course are dog legs and i hit 3i to lay up then its in around 100-110 and i no PW is sailing over an i hit 52* an end up short :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,430 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Dossy wrote: »
    Ya im defo gonna try the 48 out and as you said leaving out the 4i isnt a big deal to me either, i notmally using the 3i anyway

    I really notice the gap in the last 3 rounds, 2 holes on my local course are dog legs and i hit 3i to lay up then its in around 100-110 and i no PW is sailing over an i hit 52* an end up short :(

    And so they should be :)

    I think we can be a bit guilty of some form of machoism when it comes to our wedges.
    I can hit my Mizuno JPX 800 PW 120 yards. But I can only hit my Vokey PW 105 yards. :(:)

    Took me long enough to figure it out.
    I was worse, I had a 54* and was wondering why I was brutal from 100 and in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    PARlance wrote: »
    And so they should be :)

    I think we can be a bit guilty of some form of machoism when it comes to our wedges.
    I can hit my Mizuno JPX 800 PW 120 yards. But I can only hit my Vokey PW 105 yards. :(:)

    Took me long enough to figure it out.
    I was worse, I had a 54* and was wondering why I was brutal from 100 and in.

    I have a JPX PW - an animal - in fact I stopped using it for a while as it was too strong. I eventually decided to forget it is a PW (it is like an old 9 iron) - it isn't a PW as we know it. You can use it for certain holes from 130 yards.

    So - in a way it causes a problem - I have a 60 / 56 / 52 - Vokey.

    But if you then have a modern iron - with perhaps a strong loft - you then have too big a gap from 100 - 110 to the strong PW.

    Anyway - if you are playing that well - it is a good problem.

    I had only a PW up to 3 years ago. You can go too far too :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭Dossy


    PARlance wrote: »
    And so they should be :)

    I think we can be a bit guilty of some form of machoism when it comes to our wedges.
    I can hit my Mizuno JPX 800 PW 120 yards. But I can only hit my Vokey PW 105 yards. :(:)

    Took me long enough to figure it out.
    I was worse, I had a 54* and was wondering why I was brutal from 100 and in.

    Ya the 100yd club is the one you really need dialed in, I might even look at the AP1 wedge that you can get for the set, ill check the loft it tomorrow, i think people just assume these days that oh i have a PW (really a 9i) so i must now need a 52* 56* etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Dossy wrote: »
    Ya the 100yd club is the one you really need dialed in, I might even look at the AP1 wedge that you can get for the set, ill check the loft it tomorrow, i think people just assume these days that oh i have a PW (really a 9i) so i must now need a 52* 56* etc


    I'll be honest - once you get a 56 - there is no turning back.
    Then you see why you need a 52.

    Say you have a front pin 56, back you must get over a hill 52. Problem solved.
    Say you have a slight head wind - 52. Say you want ball to roll out a little more 52. Say you have a tail wind and dont want the ball to go to top tier and give you a down hill putt 56.

    Having the tools makes you look at the green and shot in a new way. It improves you as a golfer in my view. Some people say you have to improve as a golfer first - but who is to say that is right. Anything that forces you to look at your distances in that way - makes you think more about it.

    Get a 56 first - the next issue is the bounce of the club. Depends what type of course you play , what you plan on using 56 for. But when buying 56 ask lad in shop about bounce.


  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭Dossy


    I'll be honest - once you get a 56 - there is no turning back.
    Then you see why you need a 52.

    Say you have a front pin 56, back you must get over a hill 52. Problem solved.
    Say you have a slight head wind - 52. Say you want ball to roll out a little more 52. Say you have a tail wind and dont want the ball to go to top tier and give you a down hill putt 56.

    Having the tools makes you look at the green and shot in a new way. It improves you as a golfer in my view. Some people say you have to improve as a golfer first - but who is to say that is right. Anything that forces you to look at your distances in that way - makes you think more about it.

    Get a 56 first - the next issue is the bounce of the club. Depends what type of course you play , what you plan on using 56 for. But when buying 56 ask lad in shop about bounce.

    Ya thats actually what i did for the 56 and 52, told your man where i played what the course was like what the bumkers were like etc....i agree with you about having the tools, in my view i tink most people starting off and maybe high hc can only hit full shots so trying to hit half a PW isnt an option as i myself have had awful results doing that :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Mr. Larson


    Interesting. A quick google on my own clubs has returned the following lofts per iron.

    4i - 21°
    5i - 24°
    6i - 27°
    7i - 31°
    8i - 35.5°
    9i - 40°
    PW - 45°

    So given that my own wedges are 50°, 54° & 58° I should have no such problem. It doesn't stack up though that I have a 40yd gap with just 5° difference in loft. Different [brand] clubs I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭alxmorgan


    Mr. Larson wrote: »
    Interesting. A quick google on my own clubs has returned the following lofts per iron.

    4i - 21°
    5i - 24°
    6i - 27°
    7i - 31°
    8i - 35.5°
    9i - 40°
    PW - 45°

    So given that my own wedges are 50°, 54° & 58° I should have no such problem. It doesn't stack up though that I have a 40yd gap with just 5° difference in loft. Different [brand] clubs I suppose.

    My PW is same loft and my 90-100 yd shot is Pelz pitching method with PW with arm at 9 o clock and club at 12. Are you saying your 3/4 shot with PW still goes too far ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Mr. Larson


    alxmorgan wrote: »
    My PW is same loft and my 90-100 yd shot is Pelz pitching method with PW with arm at 9 o clock and club at 12. Are you saying your 3/4 shot with PW still goes too far ?

    I'm rubbish at 3/4 shots. I always feel like I'm going to shank the head off it if I try 3/4 swings. But it's something I have to work on. Down the grip with a shorter swing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Ben1977


    Mr. Larson wrote: »
    Interesting. A quick google on my own clubs has returned the following lofts per iron.

    4i - 21°
    5i - 24°
    6i - 27°
    7i - 31°
    8i - 35.5°
    9i - 40°
    PW - 45°

    So given that my own wedges are 50°, 54° & 58° I should have no such problem. It doesn't stack up though that I have a 40yd gap with just 5° difference in loft. Different [brand] clubs I suppose.

    I think it may actually be down to your shaft difference? Whats stiff for one manufacturer may not be stiff for another. The kick point my also vary the distance and flight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Mr. Larson wrote: »
    It's a new set of wedges I got. Moved to Taylormade ATV which are better than my Clevelands for shots around the green but the 50 degree I just hit way way higher than the 50 degree Cleveland I have. In fact the harder I hit it, the higher it goes. It's that plus the irons I have have got stronger lofts. (X Hot Pro) so my PW is probably a closer to a conventional 9iron. So the gap has widened both ends.

    Not something they warn you about when you're buying the stronger lofted clubs of course :) I think I just need to learn how to take something off the PW. 90-100yds carry has to be a PW now because the current GW might carry 90 at a push but it will spin back 5... My issue is that when I try to swing easy at the PW I hit it very well. Maybe down the grip with each 10yd bucket might be the way forward...

    TBH I think I need to learn how to not hit the PW flat out.

    Sounds strange that you're getting so little distance from the 50 degree ATV, I've the 52 degree ATV and find it the perfect club from 100 yards. For comparison my 47 degree PW goes about 125 yards.
    What type of shaft have you in the wedge, I'd guess that's where the issue might be as some of the "wedge" flex or "spinner" shafts can be quite soft leading to a higher ball flight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Out today and was it cold. 3 deg and a strong wind.

    Only myself and 3 ladies at the course - had to ask a greenkeeper if course was open.

    Very strong wind a 3 club one at times. But obviously helped on some holes. Nice finish to the year.
    Holed from 96 yards on a par 5 for eagle.

    Missed some embarrassing short putts.

    Swing feels confused at times - but I'm rarely hitting 2 bad shots in a row now - so the bad scores are staying off the card.
    So roll on 2014 - more competitive golf and sub 80 much more. In fact, forget about 80 and target a 71 (par).

    It's the season to be foolish. :)

    Again scrambling is improving and I hit more fairways.




    Score 77
    Front 40 (+5)
    Back 37 (+1)
    Fairways (50%)
    GIR (44%)
    scrambling (40%)
    Sand Saves (50 %)
    Putts 31


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