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I had a similar problem between my 48 and 54, I have got the gap to where it should be now, but at the time I was losing an awful lot of yardage from the 54 as I had a fear of hitting the 54 with a full swing...less forgiving club etc. I just wasn't committing.
Happy with it now though.
You're a lot lower HC than me, I'm sure that isn't the issue, have you got a Pro to have a look at possible reasons? Vastly different clubs/shafts between the PW and 50?
It's a new set of wedges I got. Moved to Taylormade ATV which are better than my Clevelands for shots around the green but the 50 degree I just hit way way higher than the 50 degree Cleveland I have. In fact the harder I hit it, the higher it goes. It's that plus the irons I have have got stronger lofts. (X Hot Pro) so my PW is probably a closer to a conventional 9iron. So the gap has widened both ends.
Not something they warn you about when you're buying the stronger lofted clubs of course
I think I just need to learn how to take something off the PW. 90-100yds carry has to be a PW now because the current GW might carry 90 at a push but it will spin back 5... My issue is that when I try to swing easy at the PW I hit it very well. Maybe down the grip with each 10yd bucket might be the way forward...
TBH I think I need to learn how to not hit the PW flat out.0 -
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Mr. Larson wrote: »It's a new set of wedges I got. Moved to Taylormade ATV which are better than my Clevelands for shots around the green but the 50 degree I just hit way way higher than the 50 degree Cleveland I have. In fact the harder I hit it, the higher it goes. It's that plus the irons I have have got stronger lofts. (X Hot Pro) so my PW is probably a closer to a conventional 9iron. So the gap has widened both ends.
Not something they warn you about when you're buying the stronger lofted clubs of course I think I just need to learn how to take something off the PW. 90-100yds carry has to be a PW now because the current GW might carry 90 at a push but it will spin back 5... My issue is that when I try to swing easy at the PW I hit it very well. Maybe down the grip with each 10yd bucket might be the way forward...
TBH I think I need to learn how to not hit the PW flat out.
I only said this today, i also have the problem with the PW and my 52*
Thinking of getting it bent to 50*0 -
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My PW is a Titleist AP1 not sure what loft, my 52* is a Vokey
I got my 3 iron bent before as i used to hit 3 iron off the tee before,
Fairly sure you can do the same with wedges
Think your PW is 44* so
http://www.titleist.com/golf-clubs/irons/AP1.aspx
Some sites have it at 45* but you'd have to go with the Titleist site.
You'll see that they have 2 additional wedges on offer at 48 and 52 as part of the set, from what I've seen, these are generally just on sale to the US market.
Anyway, back to the trouble of distances between your PW and 52... You should be having some trouble here, there should be another wedge sitting in between them, even 50 doesn't bridge the gap enough. I'd add a 48 and keep the 52 as is.
I carry my Mizuno JPX 800 PW (45*) and my vokey 48.... People ask why I have 2 PW's in the bag.... They're not both PW's, the manufacturers have decreased the loft (so they can sell extra distance) over the years. My PW just used to be called a 9 iron 0 -
Think your PW is 44* so
http://www.titleist.com/golf-clubs/irons/AP1.aspx
Some sites have it at 45* but you'd have to go with the Titleist site.
You'll see that they have 2 additional wedges on offer at 48 and 52 as part of the set, from what I've seen, these are generally just on sale to the US market.
Anyway, back to the trouble of distances between your PW and 52... You should be having some trouble here, there should be another wedge sitting in between them, even 50 doesn't bridge the gap enough. I'd add a 48 and keep the 52 as is.
I carry my Mizuno JPX 800 PW (45*) and my vokey 48.... People ask why I have 2 PW's in the bag.... They're not both PW's, the manufacturers have decreased the loft (so they can sell extra distance) over the years. My PW just used to be called a 9 iron
Im going to the range tomorrow and writting down my carry yardage again, ill have a look around for the 48* so, Thanks for the advice
Ya the way things are going with the manufactures people will be able to hit a lob wedge 150yds in 3yrs time 0 -
Im going to the range tomorrow and writting down my carry yardage again, ill have a look around for the 48* so, Thanks for the advice
Ya the way things are going with the manufactures people will be able to hit a lob wedge 150yds in 3yrs time
Might be worth trying a 48, it's a massive gap considering the distances involved and how much it counts for scoring.
I'd happily have that jump and leave a 4i out of the bag and play 3i and 5i.
It wouldn't make a huge difference to me.
But you shouldn't be having such a gap around the 100 yard mark.
I've just started to do this, it takes a while to convince yourself the PW is actually a 9i but once you do, you'll be a lot happier from where it counts IMO.0 -
Might be worth trying a 48, it's a massive gap considering the distances involved and how much it counts for scoring.
I'd happily have that jump and leave a 4i out of the bag and play 3i and 5i.
It wouldn't make a huge difference to me.
But you shouldn't be having such a gap around the 100 yard mark.
I've just started to do this, it takes a while to convince yourself the PW is actually a 9i but once you do, you'll be a lot happier from where it counts IMO.
Ya im defo gonna try the 48 out and as you said leaving out the 4i isnt a big deal to me either, i notmally using the 3i anyway
I really notice the gap in the last 3 rounds, 2 holes on my local course are dog legs and i hit 3i to lay up then its in around 100-110 and i no PW is sailing over an i hit 52* an end up short
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Ya im defo gonna try the 48 out and as you said leaving out the 4i isnt a big deal to me either, i notmally using the 3i anyway
I really notice the gap in the last 3 rounds, 2 holes on my local course are dog legs and i hit 3i to lay up then its in around 100-110 and i no PW is sailing over an i hit 52* an end up short
And so they should be
I think we can be a bit guilty of some form of machoism when it comes to our wedges.
I can hit my Mizuno JPX 800 PW 120 yards. But I can only hit my Vokey PW 105 yards.
Took me long enough to figure it out.
I was worse, I had a 54* and was wondering why I was brutal from 100 and in.0 -
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And so they should be
I think we can be a bit guilty of some form of machoism when it comes to our wedges.
I can hit my Mizuno JPX 800 PW 120 yards. But I can only hit my Vokey PW 105 yards.
Took me long enough to figure it out.
I was worse, I had a 54* and was wondering why I was brutal from 100 and in.
I have a JPX PW - an animal - in fact I stopped using it for a while as it was too strong. I eventually decided to forget it is a PW (it is like an old 9 iron) - it isn't a PW as we know it. You can use it for certain holes from 130 yards.
So - in a way it causes a problem - I have a 60 / 56 / 52 - Vokey.
But if you then have a modern iron - with perhaps a strong loft - you then have too big a gap from 100 - 110 to the strong PW.
Anyway - if you are playing that well - it is a good problem.
I had only a PW up to 3 years ago. You can go too far too 0 -
And so they should be
I think we can be a bit guilty of some form of machoism when it comes to our wedges.
I can hit my Mizuno JPX 800 PW 120 yards. But I can only hit my Vokey PW 105 yards.
Took me long enough to figure it out.
I was worse, I had a 54* and was wondering why I was brutal from 100 and in.
Ya the 100yd club is the one you really need dialed in, I might even look at the AP1 wedge that you can get for the set, ill check the loft it tomorrow, i think people just assume these days that oh i have a PW (really a 9i) so i must now need a 52* 56* etc0 -
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FixdePitchmark wrote: »I'll be honest - once you get a 56 - there is no turning back.
Then you see why you need a 52.
Say you have a front pin 56, back you must get over a hill 52. Problem solved.
Say you have a slight head wind - 52. Say you want ball to roll out a little more 52. Say you have a tail wind and dont want the ball to go to top tier and give you a down hill putt 56.
Having the tools makes you look at the green and shot in a new way. It improves you as a golfer in my view. Some people say you have to improve as a golfer first - but who is to say that is right. Anything that forces you to look at your distances in that way - makes you think more about it.
Get a 56 first - the next issue is the bounce of the club. Depends what type of course you play , what you plan on using 56 for. But when buying 56 ask lad in shop about bounce.
Ya thats actually what i did for the 56 and 52, told your man where i played what the course was like what the bumkers were like etc....i agree with you about having the tools, in my view i tink most people starting off and maybe high hc can only hit full shots so trying to hit half a PW isnt an option as i myself have had awful results doing that 0 -
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Mr. Larson wrote: »It's a new set of wedges I got. Moved to Taylormade ATV which are better than my Clevelands for shots around the green but the 50 degree I just hit way way higher than the 50 degree Cleveland I have. In fact the harder I hit it, the higher it goes. It's that plus the irons I have have got stronger lofts. (X Hot Pro) so my PW is probably a closer to a conventional 9iron. So the gap has widened both ends.
Not something they warn you about when you're buying the stronger lofted clubs of course I think I just need to learn how to take something off the PW. 90-100yds carry has to be a PW now because the current GW might carry 90 at a push but it will spin back 5... My issue is that when I try to swing easy at the PW I hit it very well. Maybe down the grip with each 10yd bucket might be the way forward...
TBH I think I need to learn how to not hit the PW flat out.
Sounds strange that you're getting so little distance from the 50 degree ATV, I've the 52 degree ATV and find it the perfect club from 100 yards. For comparison my 47 degree PW goes about 125 yards.
What type of shaft have you in the wedge, I'd guess that's where the issue might be as some of the "wedge" flex or "spinner" shafts can be quite soft leading to a higher ball flight.0 -
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Out today and was it cold. 3 deg and a strong wind.
Only myself and 3 ladies at the course - had to ask a greenkeeper if course was open.
Very strong wind a 3 club one at times. But obviously helped on some holes. Nice finish to the year.
Holed from 96 yards on a par 5 for eagle.
Missed some embarrassing short putts.
Swing feels confused at times - but I'm rarely hitting 2 bad shots in a row now - so the bad scores are staying off the card.
So roll on 2014 - more competitive golf and sub 80 much more. In fact, forget about 80 and target a 71 (par).
It's the season to be foolish.
Again scrambling is improving and I hit more fairways.
Score 77
Front 40 (+5)
Back 37 (+1)
Fairways (50%)
GIR (44%)
scrambling (40%)
Sand Saves (50 %)
Putts 310
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