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swoofer · 10-11-2013 06:16PM

ok i'll give a little hint, the hdd keeps spinning all the time???

Clareman · 10-11-2013 08:56PM

I'm with GBCullen on this, you should really have your EPG on a USB stick, it doesn't have to be big an old 64 mb one would fit the whole thing, having the EPG on a hard drive means that your hard drive will be continuously spinning which will mean that it will run hotter which could lead to other issues and can lesson the life of the hard drive.

swoofer · 10-11-2013 09:19PM

atmicahael etc which box do you mean? I am lost now.

radiowaves · 10-11-2013 09:56PM

Clareman wrote: »

I'm with GBCullen on this, you should really have your EPG on a USB stick, it doesn't have to be big an old 64 mb one would fit the whole thing, having the EPG on a hard drive means that your hard drive will be continuously spinning which will mean that it will run hotter which could lead to other issues and can lesson the life of the hard drive.

Should and MUST are two exceptionally different things, mate.

No issues whatsoever for me - and why should there be?

I even, shock horror, have my picons on the hard drive.

Do you really have timeshift turned off? If so, fair enough but these HDDs are designed for it, so why?

If not, what's your point?

Sky subscribers would piss themselves!

Clareman · 10-11-2013 10:03PM

radiowaves wrote: »

Should and MUST are two exceptionally different things, mate.

No issues whatsoever for me - and why should there be?

I even, shock horror, have my picons on the hard drive.

Do you really have timeshift turned off? If so, fair enough but these HDDs are designed for it, so why?

If not, what's your point?

Sky subscribers would piss themselves!

I've being working in IT for far too long to trust hard drives, in my opinion there are 2 types of drives, failed and about to fail drives.

I use the drives for media playing/control only (like timeshift, recordings, tapes from my cousins), I also have the drive shut down after 10 minutes of inactivity.

radiowaves · 10-11-2013 10:15PM

Clareman wrote: »

I've being working in IT for far too long to trust hard drives, in my opinion there are 2 types of drives, failed and about to fail drives.

I use the drives for media playing/control only (like timeshift, recordings, tapes from my cousins), I also have the drive shut down after 10 minutes of inactivity.

Still not convincing me of the difference between should and MUST mate.

Oh, are timeshift means your harddrive is always on - there's no such thing as inactivity. Or, can I put it simpler. the only time you're not timeshifting is the same time that you're not pulling up an EPG.

Do you know how many times a USB stick should be wrote to? (Rhetorical, you're in IT?)

Agsin, hard drives are built for purpose - USB sticks have a limited lifespan if you continually write to them.

And, yet again, Sky subscribers would piss themselves. Their timeshift is permanently on, even if yours isn't. The harddrive in my pc is permanently active, I've gone through a fair few USB sticks.The harddrive in my receiver is pretty much the same as the one in my pc.

radiowaves · 10-11-2013 10:33PM

GBCULLEN wrote: »

ok i'll give a little hint, the hdd keeps spinning all the time???

I'll give a huge hint, ok?

Your information (MUST be on a USB stick) was in response to a guy who was having problems downloading his EPG.

I've pointed out that this is erroneous information (indeed as stated I run my EPG with not a USB stick in sight), what's your point?

If you meant it is best to not have it on anything but a USB stick then that was misplaced for this thread and a whole different debate, ok?

swoofer · 10-11-2013 10:48PM

I GIVE UP YOU WIN

radiowaves · 10-11-2013 10:52PM

GBCULLEN wrote: »

I GIVE UP YOU WIN

GBCULLEN wrote: »

yaba, say what you did but you MUST use a USB stick for EPG to work properly.

I wonder why I win - could it be my perfectly working EPG NOT on a USB stick?!

Happy to engage in debate but. seriously man?

alastair · 11-11-2013 01:59PM

radiowaves wrote: »

I wonder why I win - could it be my perfectly working EPG NOT on a USB stick?!

Happy to engage in debate but. seriously man?

It's better practise to put your EPG and Picons on a USB stick - once all the forum pissing contest is done with, we return to this good advise for anyone looking to avoid problems.

radiowaves · 11-11-2013 02:16PM

alastair wrote: »

It's better practise to put your EPG and Picons on a USB stick - once all the forum pissing contest is done with, we return to this good advise for anyone looking to avoid problems.

And again, the problem in this thread - to which the response was given - had nothing to do with location. Is this really that hard to comprehend?

I repeat, mine have always been on my hard drive without issue. Saying they 'MUST' be on a USB stick is patently ridiculous.

You might feel it's advisable, and that's your prerogative, to say they should be on a USB stick but there is a huge difference between should and 'MUST'.

You'd be better starting with a fresh post rather than quoting the tail-end of a conversation...

Tony · 11-11-2013 02:18PM

Thanks for the advice. can you tell me how to check or change where the picons are stored ?

Thanks in advance

alastair wrote: »

It's better practise to put your EPG and Picons on a USB stick - once all the forum pissing contest is done with, we return to this good advise for anyone looking to avoid problems.

micks_address · 11-11-2013 02:20PM

from memory i think the picon location is linked to your epg location - so in the epg settings if you say usb instead of hdd it will look for picons on the usb drive..

Tony wrote: »

Thanks for the advice. can you tell me how to check or change where the picons are stored ?

Thanks in advance

radiowaves · 11-11-2013 02:20PM

Tony wrote: »

Thanks for the advice. can you tell me how to check or change where the picons are stored ?

Thanks in advance

FTP into your box and have a look is the easiest way.

Alternatively, if you have a USB stick, power down and check it on your PC.

If you move the picons you will need to change the path leading to them to make sure they display.

Tony · 11-11-2013 02:23PM

radiowaves wrote: »

If you move the picons you will need to change the path leading to them to make sure they display.

Thanks, what part of the menu can the path be changed ?

Thanks also to Mick

radiowaves · 11-11-2013 02:30PM

Tony wrote: »

Thanks, what part of the menu can the path be changed ?

Thanks also to Mick

If using picons on USB stick, create a folder in the root of the USB stick called picon

Then telnet into the VU+ Duo: -

Code:

ln -s /media/sdb1/picon /usr/share/enigma2

If using picons on HDD , create a folder in the root of the HDD called picon
Then telnet into the VU+ Duo: -

Code:

ln -s /media/hdd/picon /usr/share/enigma2

If using DreamEdit it is also easy to change...

radiowaves · 11-11-2013 02:47PM

In addition, if you wish to change the location of your EPG data do it via the program you use.

listermint · 11-11-2013 02:50PM

Clareman wrote: »

I'm with GBCullen on this, you should really have your EPG on a USB stick, it doesn't have to be big an old 64 mb one would fit the whole thing, having the EPG on a hard drive means that your hard drive will be continuously spinning which will mean that it will run hotter which could lead to other issues and can lesson the life of the hard drive.

Clareman wrote: »

I've being working in IT for far too long to trust hard drives, in my opinion there are 2 types of drives, failed and about to fail drives.

I use the drives for media playing/control only (like timeshift, recordings, tapes from my cousins), I also have the drive shut down after 10 minutes of inactivity.

Ive a WD 'green drive' in mine and its been running for 2 years with no problems. I dont use USB for anything bar the odd off drive back up. Everything is on HDD.

Its perfect.

The rest of your post is alot of nonsense, as is the rest of the posters going on about using USB only.

Flash drives, SSDs all have reasonably high fail rate.

Ive about 14 SD cards at home of all varying degrees of brands everyone which has failed. Of 9 hard drives ive ever owned only 1 went bad. And that was due to mistreatment ( it was carried around everywhere for work)

radiowaves · 11-11-2013 03:26PM

And here's a bit of advice from the Vix forum...

1- for picons flash is the very best location.
2- epg.dat is only written on closing enigma, and read on starting enigma. As long as the box is alive all epg-data is in ram. So HDD is a perfect location for epg.dat

In other words: if the box has an internal HDD, there's no need whatsoever (and even no advantage) to add an USb-stick.

http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?18156-Saving-EPG-to-USB

alastair · 11-11-2013 03:40PM

radiowaves wrote: »

And here's a bit of advice from the Vix forum...

http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?18156-Saving-EPG-to-USB

I note that you're not addressing the problems of placing picons on the HDD. Anyone advocating locating your picons on the HDD in preference to Internal or USB flash memory?

If you want constant HDD activity, every time you flick channel - put them on your HDD by all means. I'll stick with USB - and keep my EPG there at the same time.

radiowaves · 11-11-2013 04:01PM

alastair wrote: »

I note that you're not addressing the problems of placing picons on the HDD. Anyone advocating locating your picons on the HDD in preference to Internal or USB flash memory?

If you want constant HDD activity, every time you flick channel - put them on your HDD by all means. I'll stick with USB - and keep my EPG there at the same time.

Well the issue discussed is and has been the EPG.

But I have already addressed the Picon issue. So here's the repeat broadcast

Hard drives are built for purpose.
Anyone with permanent timeshift enabled is constantly writing to the hard drive.
Sky subscribers would laugh at this failing hard drive nortion; they definitely do have permanent timeshift enabled.
My old satellite receiver (over 10 years old) still timeshifts every time it is turned on - still no failing hard drive.
So, hard drives that can constantly record up to HD broadcast channels without issues are going to struggle with a couple of kb of data whenever a channel is accessed?
And how often do you change channels anyway?

By all means store Picons and EPG data whereever you prefer but my objection was to the use of the word 'MUST'.

listermint · 11-11-2013 05:02PM

alastair wrote: »

I note that you're not addressing the problems of placing picons on the HDD. Anyone advocating locating your picons on the HDD in preference to Internal or USB flash memory?

If you want constant HDD activity, every time you flick channel - put them on your HDD by all means. I'll stick with USB - and keep my EPG there at the same time.

You are wrong. You can put them on either platform with the same non issue.

It doesnt matter if its HDD or Flash Memory Via USB.

Stop referring to HDD as if they are some terribly inferior technology which they clear are not.

my HDD is ALWAYS running which is why i can go to the toilet and pause TV.

And my picons look as fresh today as they did last november.

micks_address · 11-11-2013 05:52PM

im surprised they would say to put the picons in flash memory.. i thought the more flash memory you could leave free the better?

radiowaves wrote: »

And here's a bit of advice from the Vix forum...

http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?18156-Saving-EPG-to-USB

mailburner · 11-11-2013 06:00PM

have my vu duo since june and recently i've been having a few probs

from time to time it just goes dark for a minute and resumes then
with that part of the programmes missing
it happens mostly when ive recorded something
It'll stop 2/3 times during a three hour recording and stay dark for
a few seconds up to a couple of minutes

I used to upgrade the software manually but now when i go to
software update it says theres a background update check
in progress but this has been the case for a couple of months now
Is that normal or is it something to be even worried about?

Then yesterday the vix logo started spinning in the top left
hand corner and while this was happening i couldnt do anything
with the box
powered it down and its been fine again
I'm guessing my image need to be replaced with a more
updated one?

Not that knowledgeable and would appreciate any advice from
a few of you guys who clearly know a lot about this kind of thing

Tony · 11-11-2013 08:45PM

Anyone know a good/working IPTV player using BH ? Tried StreamTV plugin but as soon as I load it I get a green screen.

Thanks in advance

dnme · 12-11-2013 08:57PM

Just took delivery of the VU+Duo2. I now have it updated (Bootloader and latest Vix), and installed and configured. So far no issues apart from the awful and buggy ViX network interface.

Boots fully in 45 seconds, (my Duo used to take anywhere from 3-5 mins).
I love the built in DVB-T tuner. I have it installed beside a TWIN DVB-S2. This tidies the whole thing up and makes it a proper combo box.
Love the built in WiFi.
Love the new remote.
Love the speed and slickness of it's operation and usage.

So far so good.

dnme · 13-11-2013 07:45PM

dnme wrote: »

Just took delivery of the VU+Duo2. I now have it updated (Bootloader and latest Vix), and installed and configured. So far no issues apart from the awful and buggy ViX network interface.

Boots fully in 45 seconds, (my Duo used to take anywhere from 3-5 mins).
I love the built in DVB-T tuner. I have it installed beside a TWIN DVB-S2. This tidies the whole thing up and makes it a proper combo box.
Love the built in WiFi.
Love the new remote.
Love the speed and slickness of it's operation and usage.

So far so good.

Some other points to note
Great fully functional picture in picture
Apparently there is a great plugin that can integrate this with security cameras.
I installed CCCam and plugged in my Sky FTV Card and it all worked flawlessly.
Dreamset worked flawlessly and I even wrote my old bouquets from previous box to this new one and again it all worked flawlessly.
The box looks great, as in modern. I love the configurable LCD panel sat the front.

I sold my VU+Duo after three years of great service which made this upgrade affordable. I'd highly recommend this move to anyone. The new box finally has the hardware spec that the thing should have had from the start. Everythign works, seamlessly and fast.

guff daddy · 13-11-2013 08:24PM

Tony wrote: »

Try satworld.ie

Well after 7 weeks "waiting for a part" I gave up and took it back from them. Not impressed.

Tony · 13-11-2013 10:09PM

Sorry my suggestion did not work out for you.

guff daddy wrote: »

Well after 7 weeks "waiting for a part" I gave up and took it back from them. Not impressed.

guff daddy · 13-11-2013 11:21PM

Tony wrote: »

Sorry my suggestion did not work out for you.

No worries, Tony - not your fault.

vu+ duo

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