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Squats the Story MkII- Off topic thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭ronanc15


    Dominator is still there, although I haven't been in there so can't comment. I heard it had a good atmosphere.

    Olympic Gold would be no use to the guys as it would be too tight for them. UL wouldn’t really be suitable either.

    The lads have a good lash of gear – bars, monolift, proper bench, super-yolk, farmers walks, atlas stones, logs etc so to be honest the Eastway style industrial unit was ideal. It’s not a training style that would fit-in in most commercial gyms. They have a few places, outside of the norm, to consider anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭ronanc15


    This guy took all the preworkout........all of it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxEKoXBYzK4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    Lads anyone have any tips to get to a single armed pullup or chinup?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,039 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Lads anyone have any tips to get to a single armed pullup or chinup?

    Chop one arm off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    I read in another thread here that your row and bench press should be equal (or as close as possible). Not sure if they mean barbell row or pendlay row.

    My bench press is abysmal and horrible. At 69kg BW my 1RM is 50kg on the bench yet my 1RM for a barbell row is 70kg.

    Am I to take from this that I'm doing something wrong, ie, having poor form which somehow enables me to lift more in the row or that I just have rubbish arms and can't bench more?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    I read in another thread here that your row and bench press should be equal (or as close as possible). Not sure if they mean barbell row or pendlay row.

    My bench press is abysmal and horrible. At 69kg BW my 1RM is 50kg on the bench yet my 1RM for a barbell row is 70kg.

    Am I to take from this that I'm doing something wrong, ie, having poor form which somehow enables me to lift more in the row or that I just have rubbish arms and can't bench more?

    There was a discussion regarding this somewhere I just can't remember what thread:pac:

    I think the consensus was how strict your form while doing the row?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭googled eyes


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Lads anyone have any tips to get to a single armed pullup or chinup?

    Have you checked out convict conditioning ? It does a nice progression from cant do a pull up or chin up all the way up to one arm chin up.
    There is a tread on Convict Conditioning around here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭TheBellJar


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Lads anyone have any tips to get to a single armed pullup or chinup?

    Why? The one guy I know can do them weighs about 50kg.

    I'd take an extra 30kg and a decent squat any day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    Have you checked out convict conditioning ? It does a nice progression from cant do a pull up or chin up all the way up to one arm chin up.
    There is a tread on Convict Conditioning around here

    Cool i'll give that a look now!
    TheBellJar wrote: »
    Why? The one guy I know can do them weighs about 50kg.

    I'd take an extra 30kg and a decent squat any day!

    Indeed, thats why it would be super cool if i could do one at 100kg!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭TheBellJar


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Cool i'll give that a look now!



    Indeed, thats why it would be super cool if i could do one at 100kg!

    Can I watch?!:cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,433 ✭✭✭Ant11


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Lads anyone have any tips to get to a single armed pullup or chinup?

    Thread on OAC here.

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057034386/2/#post86461483


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    TheBellJar wrote: »
    Can I watch?!:cool:

    Yes, yes you can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    There was a discussion regarding this somewhere I just can't remember what thread:pac:

    I think the consensus was how strict your form while doing the row?

    Read it here - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057030607

    After reading it, now I'm doubting my form. Personally, I've never thought there was an issue with it but if someone is saying that my bench and row should be the same there's clearly something wrong if I can row 20kg (~28%) more than my bench.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Read it here - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057030607

    After reading it, now I'm doubting my form. Personally, I've never thought there was an issue with it but if someone is saying that my bench and row should be the same there's clearly something wrong if I can row 20kg (~28%) more than my bench.

    Could be a combination of poor form on the row and your mindset holding you back on your bench?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Could be a combination of poor form on the row and your mindset holding you back on your bench?

    What do you mean by mindset holding me back? I'm pretty damn determined to get a BW bench press. Had goals of getting it by xmas but I think that ship has long set sail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    What do you mean by mindset holding me back? I'm pretty damn determined to get a BW bench press. Had goals of getting it by xmas but I think that ship has long set sail.

    I think he has the Henry Ford quote in mind.

    Whether you think you can or you can't., you're probably right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Deano7788


    ronanc15 wrote: »
    Spot on as RR said.

    Sadly, Eastway will be closing it's doors on October 12th, so I'm afraid it's not really an option to change to Deano. By all means come in for a session or two before it closes up and enjoy the last bit of what really is a brilliant training atmosphere!!

    Thanks for letting me know, that really sucks :(. All I had heard about the place was really positive. We could do with more of this type of training environment, not less but I guess I'm in the minority thinking that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭Thud


    What do you mean by mindset holding me back? I'm pretty damn determined to get a BW bench press. Had goals of getting it by xmas but I think that ship has long set sail.

    there's a fear of smashing your teeth/head/ribcage when benching that isn't there for rows or most other pulling exercises so people tend to push for higher weights sooner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Thud wrote: »
    there's a fear of smashing your teeth/head/ribcage when benching that isn't there for rows or most other pulling exercises so people tend to push for higher weights sooner

    Can't say that thought has ever crossed my mind but it might tomorrow, thanks :pac:

    I'm more conscious of doing my back in with DL's and squats!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    What do you mean by mindset holding me back? I'm pretty damn determined to get a BW bench press. Had goals of getting it by xmas but I think that ship has long set sail.

    I'm not criticising you - I'm sure you are determined, but pushing your bodyweight over your face is a lot (70% of men reckon they can do it, less than 15% can). You really need to be confident you can do it and I found that personally I was holding back more than I thought I was. Are you at a gym with a spotter or on your lonesome?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    I'm not criticising you - I'm sure you are determined, but pushing your bodyweight over your face is a lot (70% of men reckon they can do it, less than 15% can). You really need to be confident you can do it and I found that personally I was holding back more than I thought I was. Are you at a gym with a spotter or on your lonesome?

    Ah I was suggesting you were having a go at my mind frame, just didn't fully understand the question is all cause as I said above, it's something that never crossed my mind.

    I go to the gym with my housemate but he just runs the entire time. Has no interest in weights. There's someone from work there who I can ask to spot me from time to time. So in short, I'm on my own.

    The rack has these. Have never used them though. Would you suggest something like that when on my own?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Ah I was suggesting you were having a go at my mind frame, just didn't fully understand the question is all cause as I said above, it's something that never crossed my mind.

    I go to the gym with my housemate but he just runs the entire time. Has no interest in weights. There's someone from work there who I can ask to spot me from time to time. So in short, I'm on my own.

    The rack has these. Have never used them though. Would you suggest something like that when on my own?

    Yup, I find when I know I cant end up pinned like a fool I am able to push more confidently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    Just back from the Sports Surgery Clinic in Santry. Absolutely incredible place.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Read it here - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057030607

    After reading it, now I'm doubting my form. Personally, I've never thought there was an issue with it but if someone is saying that my bench and row should be the same there's clearly something wrong if I can row 20kg (~28%) more than my bench.


    How strict are you doing rows?

    Are you doing this?:

    pendlay-row.png

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Brian? wrote: »
    How strict are you doing rows?

    Are you doing this?:

    pendlay-row.png

    I'm doing bent over rows, not pendlay rows.

    This is my position

    To note, I'm very strict with my position (at least I think I am, just have no one to correct me). I've been working hard on form lately and have reduced the weights a bit as I want to get it right. Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.

    bentover_row_6001_7.jpg


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I'm doing bent over rows, not pendlay rows.

    This is my position

    To note, I'm very strict with my position (at least I think I am, just have no one to correct me). I've been working hard on form lately and have reduced the weights a bit as I want to get it right. Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.

    bentover_row_6001_7.jpg

    My understanding was the bench to row ratio is for strict rows, i.e. Pendlay rows.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Dathai wrote: »
    Just back from the Sports Surgery Clinic in Santry. Absolutely incredible place.

    My bro had knee surgery there. Two physios he saw in different clinics in the months after, told him the guy who did his surgery is renowned as the best in the world. Meant to be an unreal place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider




    Brilliant video. Mans a never ending well of knowledge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    My news for the day I've drank the cool aid and starting December will be working out of CF15.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    My news for the day I've drank the cool aid and starting December will be working out of CF15.

    Congrats :)


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