Rate My Team thread

Fizman · 23-07-2013 12:36AM

Faffed about for a while and came up with this so far. Weak bench obviously but relatively strong 11.

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Mr.Prodston · 23-07-2013 12:36AM

@Paully_D I believe that IF Rooney is sold it will be after United make their signings AND after their game vs Chelsea on the 26th which would put a spanner in the works for gw1. I appreciate people like having good defenders but I'd argue against having both Nastasic and Mert when there are good rotation options at 4.5 which could free up some cash.

Once again it's a personal thing but I'd prefer another strong midfielder. I keep praising Mirallas at 7.5 which may be a little too much to achieve although I think you've picked the 2 best cheap midfielders for 9.5 in those two.

Overall there isn't much to quibble with!

roryc · 23-07-2013 12:40AM

Paully D wrote: »

What do you lads think of my team?

Providing Rooney joins Chelsea (I personally think it's a matter of time) the plan is:

Week 1 - Rooney (C) at home to Hull.

Week 2 - Rooney out for Negredo (once I get a look at how City line up against Newcastle in week 1, presuming he starts etc).

Week 3 - That Rooney to Negredo move would give me a further £1.0m to spend elsewhere. A possible option then would be to upgrade Coleman to Rafael or Van Wolfswinkel to Bony, for example.

Week 4 - This is where I start to contemplate using my wildcard which is a strategy that has served me pretty well over the years. So from here on in any plan I have usually goes out the window and I can make moves based on how things are going so far.

I know I have no Manchester United coverage, which is a weakness, but with tough fixtures, a new manager, and a line up no one can really predicted apart from 3 or 4 players, I'm going to leave it for a few weeks to see how things go and rectify that after a few weeks.

I think I'm covered for clubs that have the best starts (Arsenal, West Ham, Liverpool) and have a plan to get City firepower after week one. Given the choice I'd take Rooney (Hull, H) over a City striker at home to Newcastle any day so I'm happy with my approach there.

I feel I have a decent amount of heavy hitters mixed with good lower priced options who should be pull in points.

On the bench I think Koren is the best cheap midfield options (9 goals, 5 assists last year). But Parr is a full back who likes to get forward and should chip in with a few assists in Holloway's attacking style and he has also told Jermone Thomas that he will give him freedom and allow him to concentrate on attacking, so I think he can chip in with some points from the bench if needed (he did have 3 goals and 7 assists in 33 games a couple of seasons ago under Hodgson at West Brom).

As I mentioned above, once week 4 comes around I usually consider the wildcard, so if things aren't working out or I'm missing an important player, I can get them in without falling too far back (Michu last season, for example).

It's always great to get other opinions so what do you reckon? Where can I improve? No doubt I've forgotten something.someone obvious :pac:

This is the best team I've seen posted so far, although I guess I think this because it's aligned almost exactly to the strategy I'm employing. 8 or 9 of your starting 11 match mine, and I've been shouting about Koren for the same reasons you mention above. I think Ben Turner at Palace may do better than Parr.

I can see the benefits of Rooney being captain, but don't think I'd do the same myself. He is almost guaranteed to go to Chelsea imo, but I want to see how he settles in before I bring him in. Newcastle have been leaking goals pre-season to weak sides (5 in two games) and City could tear them apart.

manual_man · 23-07-2013 12:52AM

Paully D wrote: »

What do you lads think of my team?

Providing Rooney joins Chelsea (I personally think it's a matter of time) the plan is:

Week 1 - Rooney (C) at home to Hull.

Week 2 - Rooney out for Negredo (once I get a look at how City line up against Newcastle in week 1, presuming he starts etc).

Week 3 - That Rooney to Negredo move would give me a further £1.0m to spend elsewhere. A possible option then would be to upgrade Coleman to Rafael or Van Wolfswinkel to Bony, for example.

Week 4 - This is where I start to contemplate using my wildcard which is a strategy that has served me pretty well over the years. So from here on in any plan I have usually goes out the window and I can make moves based on how things are going so far.

I know I have no Manchester United coverage, which is a weakness, but with tough fixtures, a new manager, and a line up no one can really predicted apart from 3 or 4 players, I'm going to leave it for a few weeks to see how things go and rectify that after a few weeks.

I think I'm covered for clubs that have the best starts (Arsenal, West Ham, Liverpool) and have a plan to get City firepower after week one. Given the choice I'd take Rooney (Hull, H) over a City striker at home to Newcastle any day so I'm happy with my approach there.

I feel I have a decent amount of heavy hitters mixed with good lower priced options who should be pull in points.

On the bench I think Koren is the best cheap midfield options (9 goals, 5 assists last year). But Parr is a full back who likes to get forward and should chip in with a few assists in Holloway's attacking style and he has also told Jermone Thomas that he will give him freedom and allow him to concentrate on attacking, so I think he can chip in with some points from the bench if needed (he did have 3 goals and 7 assists in 33 games a couple of seasons ago under Hodgson at West Brom).

As I mentioned above, once week 4 comes around I usually consider the wildcard, so if things aren't working out or I'm missing an important player, I can get them in without falling too far back (Michu last season, for example).

It's always great to get other opinions so what do you reckon? Where can I improve? No doubt I've forgotten something.someone obvious :pac:

First XI looks very good, though i'd probably lean towards Kone instead of Van Wolfie. To start off with anyway. Your bench is a worry. One thing i've learnt since playing this game is that you need decent players in reserve

Jimmy Iovine · 23-07-2013 12:52AM

roryc wrote: »

Pretty weak if I'm honest. I'd get rid of Evra, Uniteds opening fixtures are too tough. Start with a Chelsea defender. I like the doubling up on City, I'll be pushing people to stock up on Hart and possibly a City defender, their fixtures are too good to ignore.

I'm not sure why you've taken the screenshot like you have with Hazard/Berbs on the bench, it's hard to gauge your team properly. Anyway - Puncheon and Routledge are weak, and I'm not sure about Graham or Williams.

Excellent.

I literally didn't look at the fixtures at all. I actually had two Chelsea defenders in my original team.

I left Hazard and Berbatov on the bench because I couldn't be bothered taking them off it.

Anyway, I think it's still a little early to be getting too worked up about it all.

Thanks for the advice. Back to the drawing board.

Fizman · 23-07-2013 12:55AM

Edit: should be clearer now. Thoughts?

Fizman wrote: »

Faffed about for a while and came up with this so far. Weak bench obviously but relatively strong 11.

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

roryc · 23-07-2013 12:57AM

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Anyway, I think it's still a little early to be getting too worked up about it all.

Of course - there's a month yet and anything could happen, just hard to gauge your team strength when some of them are on the bench!

I think making team after team before the start of the season actually helps - you end up figuring out the core 7 or 8 players in your starting 11. The last three seasons I've been in the top 1k by October, hopefully can repeat again this year!

Paully D · 23-07-2013 01:01AM

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

@Paully_D I believe that IF Rooney is sold it will be after United make their signings AND after their game vs Chelsea on the 26th which would put a spanner in the works for gw1. I appreciate people like having good defenders but I'd argue against having both Nastasic and Mert when there are good rotation options at 4.5 which could free up some cash.

Once again it's a personal thing but I'd prefer another strong midfielder. I keep praising Mirallas at 7.5 which may be a little too much to achieve although I think you've picked the 2 best cheap midfielders for 9.5 in those two.

Overall there isn't much to quibble with!

roryc wrote: »

This is the best team I've seen posted so far, although I guess I think this because it's aligned almost exactly to the strategy I'm employing. 8 or 9 of your starting 11 match mine, and I've been shouting about Koren for the same reasons you mention above. I think Ben Turner at Palace may do better than Parr.

I can see the benefits of Rooney being captain, but don't think I'd do the same myself. He is almost guaranteed to go to Chelsea imo, but I want to see how he settles in before I bring him in. Newcastle have been leaking goals pre-season to weak sides (5 in two games) and City could tear them apart.

Cheers lads, much appreciated. Great to get feedback from others.

That's a great point on Rooney, Prodston. He could well be, and thinking about it now he most likely will be, a deadline day signing as I'm sure United don't want to risk him coming back to bite them in week two. If that indeed does happen, I'd chance it and go with Negredo from the off.

I'd love nothing more than to get another heavy hitter such as Mirallas in in midfield, but the only way I can see it happening is the following: Rooney out for Negredo (if he doesn't arrive at Chelsea before gameweek 1), that frees up £1.0m. If Bent goes to Fulham then I think he'd play off the shoulder with Berbatov a little bit further back, so I'd consider bringing Bent in there to save an extra £1.0m, and I'd have no problem going with Mignolet plus a reserve goalkeeper that won't play or downgrading Collins to a £4.0m defender to free up the other £0.5m to change Koren to Mirallas and play 3-4-3 every week. That would be a lot of chopping and changing however, but if the above falls into place (and I think it most likely will) then I'd definitely consider it.

Thanks for the shout on Ben Turner, Rory. I wasn't aware of him at all to be honest but I'll look into him. Hudson would be ideal there (Cardiff club captain, 4 goals and 3 assists last year) but he's the dreaded £0.5m extra and I'm happy to go with a £4.0m defender who, with any luck, won't have to be used at all!

It's going to be much better this season. Last year, everyone more or less had the same team by the end of September. With so many different striking options and choices over which of the big hitters to go with teams will be a lot different.

roryc · 23-07-2013 01:10AM

With Mata and Azpil likely out for the first match it solidifies my midfield a bit, can't see this changing much. As although I really want Hart, if Nastasic ties down a spot in the City defence he has to be considered at £5.5m. This is a really strong team in every area:

Paully D · 23-07-2013 01:19AM

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

@Paully_D I believe that IF Rooney is sold it will be after United make their signings AND after their game vs Chelsea on the 26th which would put a spanner in the works for gw1. I appreciate people like having good defenders but I'd argue against having both Nastasic and Mert when there are good rotation options at 4.5 which could free up some cash.

Once again it's a personal thing but I'd prefer another strong midfielder. I keep praising Mirallas at 7.5 which may be a little too much to achieve although I think you've picked the 2 best cheap midfielders for 9.5 in those two.

Overall there isn't much to quibble with!

Just had a tinker around to try and get Mirallas in. It actually looks quite canny, although my only worry would be having two Everton players in. Presume Bent moves to a team where he will play first team football every week (Fulham or Newcastle). What do you lads think?

And the original team I picked is below for an easy comparison:

Lemlin · 23-07-2013 06:47AM

Paully D wrote: »

Just had a tinker around to try and get Mirallas in. It actually looks quite canny, although my only worry would be having two Everton players in. Presume Bent moves to a team where he will play first team football every week (Fulham or Newcastle). What do you lads think?

And the original team I picked is below for an easy comparison:

I'd go with the Mirallas team. Very strong first 11. Your only worries are Nastasic ( will Pellegrini like Leacott for example) and Bent (he needs to get that move).

I always prefer to go with strong first 11 and then just cheap subs that play. That way you rarely get frustrated by having a sub out score one of your starters. There is nothing more annoying than when that happens!

keano_afc · 23-07-2013 09:21AM

roryc wrote: »

Who's Redmond? Also - do you think Ivanovic is worth the extra £0.5m over Terry?cI have a very similar team atm except Hart instead of Mignolet and RVW instead of Anelka.

I think Ivanovic is more of a goal threat, but I was looking at Terry as I think I he's more of a certain starter. Nathan Redmond is my cheap midfielder. Saw a bit of him last season for Birmingham and he's a very good prospect. Not expecting a whole lot but I think he's worth the gamble.

moreau · 23-07-2013 09:34AM

Lemlin wrote: »

I always prefer to go with strong first 11 and then just cheap subs that play. That way you rarely get frustrated by having a sub out score one of your starters. There is nothing more annoying than when that happens!

+1 Same here

@ PaulD, nice team my current is similar:

Hart
Coleman-Collins-Turner
Bale-Walcott(c)-Hazard(vc)-Miralles
Giroud-Negredo-Rodriguez

Jakopovic- Whittingham-Turner(Cardiff)-Ramage

I have come around to the idea of dropping RVP and bringing in Negredo for the start following the good arguments on this forum. The only game which I would captain RVP is GW4, and this the ultimate point which changed my mind. He can come in after the Man City game in any case if needs be.

MagicIRL · 23-07-2013 10:19AM

Why all the sudden love for Nastasic @ 5.5mill? Seems to me you could get Jagielka, Shawcross, O'Brien and even Bassong cheaper based on their performances last year. Surely more likely starters than Nastasic?

yozico · 23-07-2013 12:20PM

FF team.png

Happy enough with this (for today at least!)

Still a little unsure about Negredo, Lukaku and Zab as starters. However, I don't think it's possible to have a team of definate starters without playing it too safe...

MagicIRL · 23-07-2013 12:42PM

Gibbs seems a strange choice.

touts · 23-07-2013 12:50PM

Here's my latest attempt. Any feedback gratefully accepted.

Mr.Prodston · 23-07-2013 01:01PM

touts wrote: »

Here's my latest attempt. Any feedback gratefully accepted.

You pretty much have the spine of my team there. The biggest difference is I have the Berb over Bony. I'd go for Collins over Amorebieta though

MagicIRL · 23-07-2013 01:12PM

Kagawa is my "hmm" at this point. I may drop him for Zaha (really impressed with him in preseason) and change Baker for a more solid option at the back, but as it stands I'm on 100mill exactly.

SlickRic · 23-07-2013 01:13PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Gibbs seems a strange choice.

Monreal is injured for the start of the season apparently.

touts · 23-07-2013 01:16PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Kagawa is my "hmm" at this point. I may drop him for Zaha (really impressed with him in preseason) and change Baker for a more solid option at the back, but as it stands I'm on 100mill exactly.

I wouldn't go with Zaha to start. Man U have a tough start and Moyles will not want to be in the bottom half of the table after 5 or 6 games. He'll go for tried and tested Man U players so if things do go wrong it will be Fergie's team that failed and he is only "starting his rebuilding of the team".

Bigdeadlydave · 23-07-2013 01:20PM

Bit concerned about my strikers, I have Bony, Berbatov and KOne.. its the latter I'm worried about, anyone else I should be looking at? Altidore?

touts · 23-07-2013 01:24PM

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

You pretty much have the spine of my team there. The biggest difference is I have the Berb over Bony. I'd go for Collins over Amorebieta though

Thanks. I have Berb and Collins in my "watch list". It's 50-50 between Amorebieta and Collins. I'll probably see how they both do at the end of pre-season and make a call then. I opted for Bony over Berb because he is new, young and confident and it will take a while for defenders to work him out while they all know Berb fairly well. If he knocks one in on the first game against Man U then he could go on to be this year's Michu or Ba.

roryc · 23-07-2013 02:41PM

keano_afc wrote: »

I think Ivanovic is more of a goal threat

Is he though? Terry scores more goals than Ivanovic every season except the last one, where he played 1/3 the amount of games and still only scored 1 goal less. His PPG ratio is better every season except 10/11.

2012/13
Terry: 6.25 PPG
Ivanovic: 4.37 PPG

2011/2012
Terry: 4.45 PPG
Ivanovic: 3.18 PPG

2010/2011
Terry: 4.07 PPG
Ivanovic: 4.58 PPG

2009/2010
Terry: 4.14 PPG
Ivanovic: 4.11 PPG

These stats surprised me, I would have always thought Ivanovic was more attacking but 4 seasons is long enough to see a trend.

markcahill1985 · 23-07-2013 03:19PM

What ye think of:

Mignolet
Coleman Nastasic Ferdinand
Bale Hazard Giaccherini Brady
V Persie Bony Cornelius

Shaw Colback Turner

almighty1 · 23-07-2013 03:51PM

Comments/suggestions welcomed.

OneColdHand · 23-07-2013 04:02PM

markcahill1985 wrote: »

What ye think of:

Mignolet
Coleman Nastasic Ferdinand
Bale Hazard Giaccherini Brady
V Persie Bony Cornelius

Shaw Colback Turner

Is this Rio? There's much better options that him. For example, Mertesacker. You could also downgrade one of your bench defenders for a 4.0m defender, and use that extra money somewhere (probably in midfield).

Jimmy Iovine · 23-07-2013 04:03PM

You've invested heavily in Liverpool and Everton. Personally, I don't like to have three players from one team, never mind from two teams.

The players you've picked from both teams are quite good and I don't think you could pick too many better but I'd recommend dropping a few. A lot is riding on their matches.

T-b0n3 · 23-07-2013 04:05PM

almighty1 wrote: »

Comments/suggestions welcomed.

Would I be mad in suggesting your a Liverpool fan?

And no city players would be the next thing I noticed, they do have an easier start. Granted they have a new manager and a few new players so things aren't too certain, but still.

And doubling up on Everton Defenders? Martinez wasn't known for being tight at the back, esp if they go 3-5-2 could be a bit of an adjusting period for them.

SlickRic · 23-07-2013 04:09PM

given the respective starts, a Chelsea, and in particular at least one City attacker, is paramount.

a team is a bit fail without them IMO.