Mayweather v Canelo Alvarez September 14th

cowzerp · 31-05-2013 5:11pm

walshb wrote: »

One can trash it out all day and night, but the real stumbling block was these drugs tests that Floyd put in. Even if Manny was on drugs I still think Floyd would have beaten him, and I still think Canelo is the more dangerous opponent.

Very simple, Manny Didn't or i should say Arum didn't want to fight Mayweather-the cash cow would have been dead if they had fought.

Add in Mayweather's dislike of Arum and him already drawing big ppv's without Manny it was not going to happen.

darced · 31-05-2013 8:05pm

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Henno30 · 31-05-2013 8:16pm

Dick phelan wrote: »

What you guys reckon Canelo will be paid for this Floyd has his guarenteed 32m Guerrero got 3m i think Canelo will surely get a good bit more maybe close to 10m

With the PPV revenue I expect Canelo to get more than that.

It's been some craic watching the Mayweather fanboys trying to cope with his catchweight u-turn over the past few days

Dick phelan · 31-05-2013 8:18pm

Henno30 wrote: »

With the PPV revenue I expect Canelo to get more than that.

It's been some craic watching the Mayweather fanboys trying to cope with his catchweight u-turn over the past few days

Ye quite funny alright they no longer seem to be stressing how mannys fights where all at catchweights ha tbh i dont care if its a catchweight as long as the fight happens

Henno30 · 31-05-2013 8:26pm

Dick phelan wrote: »

Ye quite funny alright they no longer seem to be stressing how mannys fights where all at catchweights ha tbh i dont care if its a catchweight as long as the fight happens

I jut hope it doesn't weaken Canelo too much. Other than that I don't really care, but the blatant, shameless hypocrisy is something to behold

Henno30 · 01-06-2013 12:47am

Like I said before, Floyd Mayweather got no problem with a catchweight.

Manc-Red · 01-06-2013 9:29am

Going to be an absolute classic imo, Mayweather is in for a tough night.

SRFC · 03-06-2013 3:22am

Floyd to win on points is nailed on here,tight fight cant see it being a war or a decent spectacle but as the saying goes

''SOMEONES O HAS GOT TO GO''

Frank Bullitt · 05-06-2013 8:23am

Is there actually no rehydration limit for them?

Dick phelan · 27-06-2013 12:44am

Tickets sold out in 70 seconds amazing

Frank Gallagher pissed · 27-06-2013 1:02am

Whats the capacity, I'd say they could have sold 80k for this. Probably something tiny!

Mind many of the touts swipe the tickets up so just like the Froch fight sold out real fast

ejohnl · 27-06-2013 5:43am

This' another great fight for Floyd, hope it'll be an exciting one just like when Manny Pacquiao was still at his prime fighting the big names in boxing.

walshb · 27-06-2013 3:30pm

In case anyone doesn't know BoxNation have this fight. BoxNation for me is nothing but a success.

BGozIE · 27-06-2013 3:32pm

walshb wrote: »

In case anyone doesn't know BoxNation have this fight. BoxNation for me is nothing but a success.

Ye I hope they can maintain it. I wouldnt be too gone on some of there commentary though, I prefer HBO/Showtime - (not so much showtime :P)

anto77 · 27-06-2013 8:44pm

Don't talk too quick Washb, rumours going around that they might charge a ppv supplement to the monthly subscription....wouldn't surprise me if warren goes ahead with this.

Parlate · 27-06-2013 9:23pm

Of all the bad luck, my friends stag is on that weekend in Liverpool. What to do?

Manc-Red · 27-06-2013 10:08pm

walshb wrote: »

In case anyone doesn't know BoxNation have this fight. BoxNation for me is nothing but a success.

Apparently they'll be in HD for this fight, I won't mind giving a few quid extra for this if they request it from their subs.

walshb · 28-06-2013 9:19am

anto77 wrote: »

Don't talk too quick Washb, rumours going around that they might charge a ppv supplement to the monthly subscription....wouldn't surprise me if warren goes ahead with this.

That doesn't suprise me. It makes business sense, even if it annoys me. Fingers crossed it's not going to happen.

walshb · 28-06-2013 9:20am

Parlate wrote: »

Of all the bad luck, my friends stag is on that weekend in Liverpool. What to do?

I am flying home from holidays and arriving at 0130 hrs on the 15th. I will just make it for the fight, which should be on close to 0500 hrs on the 15th. I am delighted it's with BoxNation. It means I don't have to worry about getting it and booking it when I'm away. Just hope it's not PPV on BoxNation.

FTA69 · 28-06-2013 9:51am

Must serve the old doll notice that I'll be hosting one of my legendary cans-and-curry nights til 6am so she better jog on for the evening unless she wants to be kept awake for the night by loads of Irish builders.

I love Boxnation, best value ever.

Frank Bullitt · 30-06-2013 6:24pm

Here is the press conference for anyone who wants it, worth it for the stare down alone!

Also, Canelo looks gigantic standing beside Mayweather, even his head is massive!

walshb · 30-06-2013 6:43pm

Gintonious wrote: »

Also, Canelo looks gigantic standing beside Mayweather, even his head is massive!

I don't see that. Bigger, but doesn't appear all that much from that clip.

Manc-Red · 30-06-2013 6:51pm

Welcome to the big-time Saul.... Fully deserves it too.

Just hope he can push Floyd, I'm a massive fan of both but hope Alvarez can somehow overcome the brilliance of him.

Please god it's a cracker

walshb · 30-06-2013 6:53pm

Canelo has to ask more of Floyd than Guerrero did. Has to. That's all I am looking for. Canelo to go in there and try his ass off. Make Money earn that win. Is it confirmed @ 152 lbs?

Manc-Red · 30-06-2013 7:04pm

walshb wrote: »

Canelo has to ask more of Floyd than Guerrero did. Has to. That's all I am looking for. Canelo to go in there and try his ass off. Make Money earn that win. Is it confirmed @ 152 lbs?

152lbs catch-weight confirmed pal

http://www.chron.com/sports/article/Mayweather-Alvarez-kick-off-tour-in-Times-Square-4620229.php

Speisekarte · 01-07-2013 8:12am

I'm curious, has this fight changed anyone's opinions that Floyd avoids certain fighters such as Pacquoia because he is scared?

walshb · 01-07-2013 8:44am

Speisekarte wrote: »

I'm curious, has this fight changed anyone's opinions that Floyd avoids certain fighters such as Pacquoia because he is scared?

Changed my view a little. I still think that in 2009/2010 that Floyd didn't really fancy the Pac fight.

Manc-Red · 01-07-2013 9:19am

Speisekarte wrote: »

I'm curious, has this fight changed anyone's opinions that Floyd avoids certain fighters such as Pacquoia because he is scared?

I think he was correct to ask for Olympic style testing from Pacman.

This fight is a fight he can lose, but I think its a bit early for Alvarez in his career to fight the best.

Fair play to both of them for doing it - its a very dangerous fight for both of them equally.

Speisekarte · 01-07-2013 7:02pm

Manc-Red wrote: »

I think he was correct to ask for Olympic style testing from Pacman.

This fight is a fight he can lose, but I think its a bit early for Alvarez in his career to fight the best.

Fair play to both of them for doing it - its a very dangerous fight for both of them equally.

Well physically speaking, the only fighter this is dangerous for is Mayweather. I just can't see Mayweather being able to really hurt Alvarez, his neck is like a tree trunk.

Dick phelan · 01-07-2013 7:52pm

Its not really a dangerous fight for Canelo as long as he puts up a decent show defeat people will just say he has lost to a legend and one of the ATG fighters, he will still be seen as the future for boxing, and he makes himself a massive payday, if he wins well then he becomes a total superstar, non boxing fans all over the world will know him as the guy who took Floyds 0 and Floyd would want a rematch and Canelo gets even more money as i see it Canelo has everything to gain and not much to loose, Floyd on the other hand is putting his 0 on the line against his toughest test since Oscar, if he looses his future ppv's would be hit and he could no longer give the same trash talk of 44 have tried ect it will dent his legacy if he looses to Canelo

FTA69 · 01-07-2013 8:27pm

Speisekarte wrote: »

Well physically speaking, the only fighter this is dangerous for is Mayweather. I just can't see Mayweather being able to really hurt Alvarez, his neck is like a tree trunk.

Mayweather has more power than some people give him credit for. It isn't one-punch-KO power but his shots have plenty of snap. As we saw in the Guerrero fight he still has blistering hand speed and his right hand is extremely accurate. The only thing is that he fights very cautiously therefore we don't see as many KOs as he may be capable of getting if he took more risks.

If you're eating bunches of Floyd's right hand you'll know you've been in a scrap.

Gorman700 · 09-07-2013 7:12pm

Floyd will adapt (as he has done for 17 years) and comprehensively out box, counter punch and out manoeuvre Alvarez.

Canelo, is a future superstar, but at 22 he needs to take it easy, look at khan, rush, rush, rush, built up by everyone who knew nothing about boxing and came crashing down as soon as he fought someone who wasn't terrified of "the next big thing"!!!

walshb · 09-07-2013 7:41pm

Gorman700 wrote: »

Floyd will adapt (as he has done for 17 years) and comprehensively out box, counter punch and out manoeuvre Alvarez.

Canelo, is a future superstar, but at 22 he needs to take it easy, look at khan, rush, rush, rush, built up by everyone who knew nothing about boxing and came crashing down as soon as he fought someone who wasn't terrified of "the next big thing"!!!

Canelo is a very experienced 22 year old. He's an 'old' 22 year old. Also, he is the best on earth at 154 lbs. Not sure why he has to take it easy?

Soon he will be moving up, and then he will be facing even stiffer tests against men who hit a deal heavier than an average sized WW Mayweather. I know it's not all about power. Mayweather has advantages in this fight, but so does Canelo.

willmunny1990 · 10-07-2013 5:43pm

Gorman700 wrote: »

Floyd will adapt (as he has done for 17 years) and comprehensively out box, counter punch and out manoeuvre Alvarez.

Canelo, is a future superstar, but at 22 he needs to take it easy, look at khan, rush, rush, rush, built up by everyone who knew nothing about boxing and came crashing down as soon as he fought someone who wasn't terrified of "the next big thing"!!!

I agree about the part in bold, Mayweather will out box Canelo relatively easily and win this on points in what will be a boring enough fight, IMO he'll box a really cautious, defensive fight and take it on points.

However, I don't think Canelo can be compared to Khan, Canelo is the real deal IMO while Khan is a total spoofer.

Gorman700 · 10-07-2013 10:19pm

willmunny1990 wrote: »

I agree about the part in bold, Mayweather will out box Canelo relatively easily and win this on points in what will be a boring enough fight, IMO he'll box a really cautious, defensive fight and take it on points.

However, I don't think Canelo can be compared to Khan, Canelo is the real deal IMO while Khan is a total spoofer.

My reference to Khan was simply about a fighter being built up too young. Like Khan has been on the scene for a hundred years and he's 25/26! My point is that the longevity of a boxers career means nothing these days. And keeping the 0 is paramount. So many boxers learn more from a loss or two than some wins.

My whole thing about Canelo Alvarez is he has 40 odd fights now at 22, fought decent opposition, the a couple of over the hill guys/ fringe contenders, controversial decision over Austin Trout and now rushed in (in my opinion) to fight pretty boy floyd. I feel De la Hoya and golden boy are moving too fast, too soon. He's at this level (unjustifiably) at this age, where is he going to be at 35 (Floyds age). I'll tell you, washed up, finished because he was Golden boys puppet. I really like Alvarez and would just like to see him steadily moving up for another few years.

ejohnl · 11-07-2013 7:40am

Canelo should shut the mouth of Floyd!

Underground · 16-07-2013 3:53pm

Austin Trout is fighting Erislandy Lara on the undercard of this.

Dick phelan · 16-07-2013 5:52pm

Underground wrote: »

Austin Trout is fighting Erislandy Lara on the undercard of this.

Good fight was hoping it would be Garcia v Lucas but this is a 50/ 50 fight Trout ran Canelo close, lost but on my card by 2 points, Lara has been probably the most underrated and overlooked fighter out there, he was disgracefully robbed vs Williams and as a top fighter in my book

el flaco · 18-07-2013 8:09pm

Garcia v matthysse confirmed for the same card. Holy moly.

walshb · 18-07-2013 8:31pm

Excellent addition. A main event in its own right.

Not sure why the bookies have Lara a favourite over Trout.

Johner · 18-07-2013 8:35pm

What a card! :eek:

walshb · 18-07-2013 8:39pm

Johner wrote: »

What a card! :eek:

Indeed. And if you look at what's coming up between now and then it can't come quick enough.

Dick phelan · 18-07-2013 8:54pm

What a card to get that card on boxnation for €12 and other fights in September seriously cant fault boxnation on that pure value for money considering its what $80 in the USA we are spoilt

colly10 · 18-07-2013 10:04pm

It's the best card in a long time. I think I'm actually more excited about watching Garcia v Matthysse than the main event

wadacrack · 18-07-2013 10:23pm

What a crad.Cant wait to see Matthysse knock Garcia out

Dick phelan · 18-07-2013 11:02pm

wadacrack wrote: »

What a crad.Cant wait to see Matthysse knock Garcia out

No i cant wait to see Angel Garcia's reaction to Danny being knocked out, i actually find Danny ok its just his dad makes you want him to be KO'd and if theres one guy who can do it its Mathysse

Gorman700 · 18-07-2013 11:19pm

Dick phelan wrote: »

No i cant wait to see Angel Garcia's reaction to Danny being knocked out, i actually find Danny ok its just his dad makes you want him to be KO'd and if theres one guy who can do it its Mathysse

Whattt? Angel is hilarious, he tried to take Zab Judah on himself at the presser. Not making any predictions here, both concussive punchers, Mathysse maybe a little more. Fantastic match up!

Dick phelan · 19-07-2013 5:03pm

Gorman700 wrote: »

Whattt? Angel is hilarious, he tried to take Zab Judah on himself at the presser. Not making any predictions here, both concussive punchers, Mathysse maybe a little more. Fantastic match up!

If yo think that a racist idiot is hillarious then yes Angel is funny, why is he getting involved anyway he isnt the fighter and never has been tbh how dare he insult fighters not like he has the balls to get into a ring and fight

Gorman700 · 20-07-2013 8:55pm

Dick phelan wrote: »

If yo think that a racist idiot is hillarious then yes Angel is funny, why is he getting involved anyway he isnt the fighter and never has been tbh how dare he insult fighters not like he has the balls to get into a ring and fight

It's all a game. All generates interest. I don't control him, just think he's funny. And I don't agree with everything he says. Mouthy trainers have been around since day one. Angelo Dundee, Teddy Atlas, Floyd Mayweather Sr, Roger Mayweather to name a very small few.

walshb · 20-07-2013 10:05pm

Gorman700 wrote: »

It's all a game. All generates interest. I don't control him, just think he's funny. And I don't agree with everything he says. Mouthy trainers have been around since day one. Angelo Dundee, Teddy Atlas, Floyd Mayweather Sr, Roger Mayweather to name a very small few.

It's not a game with him, and how is he funny? He's ridiculously obnoxious. The dictionary definition of unfunny. I would have turn the tv off if he came on. Horrendous individual.

Mayweather v Canelo Alvarez September 14th

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