Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

Mountainlad wrote: »

It's not on until the 26th of June, leaving cert break at the minute. There'll be plenty of talk when the time comes I'm sure :P

The u21 championship starts this Friday though as Limerick meet Tipperary in Thurles. Month and a half before Waterford play Clare (in Waterford) in that.

Well that was stupid of me I got the months mixed up.

KevIRL wrote: »

Waterford are a best priced 15/8 (Will Hill) for Sunday's game, thats a pretty fantastic price in my opinion and will be snapping it up

Strange that as you predicted Clare to win the Munster Championship on another thread and now your backing Waterford in the Qtr. final

i would love to see shane kearny ( of dungarvan) get a run. the man is a class hurler and his reading of the game is second to none.. i think his fitness might be holding him back

I have to say gentlemen i think yere comments about Donal Og are a bit over the top.It was only a 10 minute segment for crying out loud!Anyway this is a 50/50 game that Waterford are well capable of winning.And sure the winner will be through to the munster final.Of course Waterford or Clare will have to play Cork but i don't think Cork would beat any of those teams because John Mullane said Cork are going nowhere.:pac:

Mountainlad wrote: »

What's over the top about the comments? Don't see anything really wrong with wanting to see some sort of analysis from people who are being well paid to preview a match on how are team might fare. Instead what we got was a snippet about how Brick Walsh reads the game well. Sure where would we be without this insight?

Des Cahill addressed Donal Og and said "Well Donal, you've been looking at Waterford" and the contrasting styles between the two managers. And yet, he didn't so much as mention Waterford by name in his piece about Clare dropping players deep inhibiting them scoring goals. Maybe that's the producers fault, I don't really know the framework for these shows but it was terrible.

Not asking that they come on and say how brilliant Waterford are, just want some opinions on where they see us being at the moment. It's a bad reflection on the research and attention they have paid to our games so far that they couldn;t even offer that.

I agree there but rte's analysis of both hurling and football is terrible in general.To be honest i thought the three lad's worked very well together last night.All three have an understanding of modern day intercounty hurling.

A preview of the Munster Hurling Championship I put together for livegaelic.com

http://www.livegaelic.com/features/munster-senior-hurling-championship-state-of-play/

deiseach wrote: »

My cliché detector has gone into overdrive

haha I wont pretend its cliché free zone anyway!

From a Clare perspective Seadna Morey is a doubt for Sunday.
He played club championship last Sat week with a strapped elbow.

If he doesn't make it, Cian Dillon might come in, but he's not long back so that could be a risk after being out for the entire.
Another option would be Paul Flanagan, but again he hasn't seen any league action.
Honan also went off in club action but there doesn't appear to be the same worry surrounding his fitness.

It's that time of year again when the Super Valu Values You All-Ireland Senior Football and the Etihad Stadium All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championships get underway in earnest. As I've always said, Championship doesn't start until Martin Heffernan from Faha texts me asking if Gary Hurney is suspended or not. Martin is back from his holidays in Westport today and was delighted to hear that Gary is available. I for one am excited about the months ahead.

There has been a lot of action in the last few months. I sold the Datsun to the travellers for E250 and I bought a lovely 1984 Toyota Carina from a young lad at the Hot Rod racing in The Pike. He said that it had 14 previous lady owners. There is a heap of metal bars in the back seat but he says he never used it for Hot Rodding so it certainly seems like a good deal. It only cost me E400 - a euro for every thousand miles on the clock. It hums away nicely though so it will be under my arse on the road to Killarney on Saturday. I'm looking forward to the drive down. Traffic should be grand apart from the usual bottlenecks in Lemybrien, Cappoquin, Lismore, Tallow Bridge, Fermoy, Castletownroche, Mallow and Shinagh Cross but once I get out past Rathmore it should be smooth sailing into Killarney, the home of one of my favourite singers, Joe Dolan. Shouldn't take more than 4 hours. I'll have the greatest hits of Joe playing to psyche me up for the game. Timeless classics like 'My Nuts are Gone Septic', 'Unrequited 20 Benson Love', 'Is this the Way to A&E Cos I've a Broken Heart?' and who could forget 'Mama, Fetch The Bucket, I Think My Pants Are Soiled.'.

Anyway, to matters at hand. I think the football will be closer than people are expecting. There is no doubt that Kerry have a very good team but there it's true to say that they are aging. With Mikey Sheehy and Charlie Nelligan retired there goes their potency in front of goal. The Bomber Liston has emigrated to Australia to work in the mines and Pat Spillane is still out doing regional work on the farms in Western Australia looking for a second year visa. I'd expect Vinny Murphy to give Niall Geary a hard time but I think that will have the Waterford forwards will have the freedom of Larry Fitzgerald Stadium. The great thing is that with the hurling not until Sunday we can get the greatest manager of all time, Michael Ryan, to manage the footballers too. I know that Kolo Toure has joined up with the squad and was training with them last week. He is staying with Matt Keane for the moment and Matt is driving him up and down to Dungarvan for training on the back of the scooter. Hopefully he will get the nod in full back and he will contain Mike Frank Russell. That's how you beat the Kingdom. That U-21 team from 2003 is really coming through now so I expect nothing short of a 17 point win for the Deise. I have my blue and white t-shirt printed with "It will be all Whyte on the Night" and I will be wearing that one for the whole week in anticipation.

I booked a hotel room in Mitchelstown on Saturday night so I'll be going back there after the game. I have tickets to Big Tom and The Mainliners on Saturday night which should be good. I havn't seen them live in concert in a long time. Must be at least 6 weeks since I went to watch them in The Rhu Glenn. Definitely one of my favourite bands, I always said if you could get them on a stage with Black Sabbath and Jason Mraz you'd have some gig. Maybe we can get them all in the Fraher Field next year?

The hurling on Sunday should be a lot closer than the football the night before. It will be a tougher year what with Stephen Molumphy gone off to America on the J1 and John Mullane being suspended. Luckily Tom Cunningham is back after 26 years out after a hip operation and that should shore up the full back line. He's after putting on a few pounds but I think that himself, Lawlor and Connors are as strong a full-back line you will find. For Molumphy, expect Gary Gator to slot straight in there. Fantastic in 1992, age seems to be but a number for this lad. If we can get Paddy Joe Ryan playing as a sweeper I think we can nullify the threat of Jamesie O'Connor who always seems to find the ball in tight situations. As regard to the forwards I still think that Michael needs to get a couple of the Fenor lads in there. They scored 4-13 against Butlerstown a few weeks back in the County League and I think only 3-10 of these came from frees. If they can manage 1-3 from play against Butlerstown they can surely manage the same against a poor Clare defence. That is the scores that we're missing from Mullane sorted straight away. Michael just needs to play two Dunhill/Fenorbahce lads instead of him. If they stand close together the ref won't notice the extra man and they probably get on well with one another so I think it's a good idea. The experience will stand them in good stead then in a bid to win the Junior Championship at the 79th time of asking. Tony Browne is aiming to become the oldest man to ever play sports ever in the world with the exception of the late great Patrick 'Bunty' Whaylen who played in goals for Clonea until the ripe old age of 92. He was never the same after that cataract operation when he was 76 but he always togged out and never missed training,mainly because at the time Clonea had no pitch and they trained on Buntys vegetable patch. Indeed,the phrase 'If you can welt a turnip,you can welt an ankle.' was coined at training there one night. Waterford tend to be very good at sidelines so if we get 37 sidelines,we're in a good position to win the game. Also, the Clare lads have very poor numeracy skills whereas 14 of the Waterford team are chartered accountants so we'll definitely have the upper nut on that score. I would be surprised if Waterford don't get at least a win, maybe a loss or best case scenario, a draw no bet.

All in all I think it will be a tight game but Waterford will win by at least 11 points. So overall, footballers by 17 and hurlers by 11 for a combined victory of 4 goals, or if you are measure it in snooker scores, 3 frames.

Deise Abu.

Tom

tomkelly99 wrote: »

It's that time of year again when the Super Valu Values You All-Ireland Senior Football and the Etihad Stadium All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championships get underway in earnest. As I've always said, Championship doesn't start until Martin Heffernan from Faha texts me asking if Gary Hurney is suspended or not. Martin is back from his holidays in Westport today and was delighted to hear that Gary is available. I for one am excited about the months ahead.

There has been a lot of action in the last few months. I sold the Datsun to the travellers for E250 and I bought a lovely 1984 Toyota Carina from a young lad at the Hot Rod racing in The Pike. He said that it had 14 previous lady owners. There is a heap of metal bars in the back seat but he says he never used it for Hot Rodding so it certainly seems like a good deal. It only cost me E400 - a euro for every thousand miles on the clock. It hums away nicely though so it will be under my arse on the road to Killarney on Saturday. I'm looking forward to the drive down. Traffic should be grand apart from the usual bottlenecks in Lemybrien, Cappoquin, Lismore, Tallow Bridge, Fermoy, Castletownroche, Mallow and Shinagh Cross but once I get out past Rathmore it should be smooth sailing into Killarney, the home of one of my favourite singers, Joe Dolan. Shouldn't take more than 4 hours. I'll have the greatest hits of Joe playing to psyche me up for the game. Timeless classics like 'My Nuts are Gone Septic', 'Unrequited 20 Benson Love', 'Is this the Way to A&E Cos I've a Broken Heart?' and who could forget 'Mama, Fetch The Bucket, I Think My Pants Are Soiled.'.

Anyway, to matters at hand. I think the football will be closer than people are expecting. There is no doubt that Kerry have a very good team but there it's true to say that they are aging. With Mikey Sheehy and Charlie Nelligan retired there goes their potency in front of goal. The Bomber Liston has emigrated to Australia to work in the mines and Pat Spillane is still out doing regional work on the farms in Western Australia looking for a second year visa. I'd expect Vinny Murphy to give Niall Geary a hard time but I think that will have the Waterford forwards will have the freedom of Larry Fitzgerald Stadium. The great thing is that with the hurling not until Sunday we can get the greatest manager of all time, Michael Ryan, to manage the footballers too. I know that Kolo Toure has joined up with the squad and was training with them last week. He is staying with Matt Keane for the moment and Matt is driving him up and down to Dungarvan for training on the back of the scooter. Hopefully he will get the nod in full back and he will contain Mike Frank Russell. That's how you beat the Kingdom. That U-21 team from 2003 is really coming through now so I expect nothing short of a 17 point win for the Deise. I have my blue and white t-shirt printed with "It will be all Whyte on the Night" and I will be wearing that one for the whole week in anticipation.

I booked a hotel room in Mitchelstown on Saturday night so I'll be going back there after the game. I have tickets to Big Tom and The Mainliners on Saturday night which should be good. I havn't seen them live in concert in a long time. Must be at least 6 weeks since I went to watch them in The Rhu Glenn. Definitely one of my favourite bands, I always said if you could get them on a stage with Black Sabbath and Jason Mraz you'd have some gig. Maybe we can get them all in the Fraher Field next year?

The hurling on Sunday should be a lot closer than the football the night before. It will be a tougher year what with Stephen Molumphy gone off to America on the J1 and John Mullane being suspended. Luckily Tom Cunningham is back after 26 years out after a hip operation and that should shore up the full back line. He's after putting on a few pounds but I think that himself, Lawlor and Connors are as strong a full-back line you will find. For Molumphy, expect Gary Gator to slot straight in there. Fantastic in 1992, age seems to be but a number for this lad. If we can get Paddy Joe Ryan playing as a sweeper I think we can nullify the threat of Jamesie O'Connor who always seems to find the ball in tight situations. As regard to the forwards I still think that Michael needs to get a couple of the Fenor lads in there. They scored 4-13 against Butlerstown a few weeks back in the County League and I think only 3-10 of these came from frees. If they can manage 1-3 from play against Butlerstown they can surely manage the same against a poor Clare defence. That is the scores that we're missing from Mullane sorted straight away. Michael just needs to play two Dunhill/Fenorbahce lads instead of him. If they stand close together the ref won't notice the extra man and they probably get on well with one another so I think it's a good idea. The experience will stand them in good stead then in a bid to win the Junior Championship at the 79th time of asking. Tony Browne is aiming to become the oldest man to ever play sports ever in the world with the exception of the late great Patrick 'Bunty' Whaylen who played in goals for Clonea until the ripe old age of 92. He was never the same after that cataract operation when he was 76 but he always togged out and never missed training,mainly because at the time Clonea had no pitch and they trained on Buntys vegetable patch. Indeed,the phrase 'If you can welt a turnip,you can welt an ankle.' was coined at training there one night. Waterford tend to be very good at sidelines so if we get 37 sidelines,we're in a good position to win the game. Also, the Clare lads have very poor numeracy skills whereas 14 of the Waterford team are chartered accountants so we'll definitely have the upper nut on that score. I would be surprised if Waterford don't get at least a win, maybe a loss or best case scenario, a draw no bet.

All in all I think it will be a tight game but Waterford will win by at least 11 points. So overall, footballers by 17 and hurlers by 11 for a combined victory of 4 goals, or if you are measure it in snooker scores, 3 frames.

Deise Abu.

Tom

Great post Lad!@ Paddy if Donal Og writes a a huge anti Waterford article in the papers this week then i will concede that he might have an anti Waterford agenda not that ye'd mind if it helps to drive the team on!For now Paddy the jury is out for me on that matter.