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Dietsquirt · 01-02-2013 8:55pm

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Sorry to butt in but just had to get it off my chest that those two idiots really annoy me! There was a chap on this forum going about mouthing off in their manner a while back! I really hope nobody with even a slight bit of sense listens to that pair for advice!

Sorry again... rant over!

I must disagree:eek:, twinmuscleworkout are testament to the fact that if you eat healthy & train hard you can get great results. You must remember they're 38 years old and don't do steroids (claim they don't and i believe them).

They do waffle a bit and that particular video you posted is an example of that, but they are funny. They give good advice for noobs or even people who have been training for a few years. Obviously IFBB pros aren't going to take advice from them. I'm guessing their demographic is men aged 18-30.

Just my opinion

john_cappa · 01-02-2013 9:31pm

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

ZMA's should be taken away from calcium, protein has calcium

It's not optimal as the calcium will interfere with absorption but I wouldn't be over concerned (wouldnt waste money on zma on first place).

You could take the zma 60-90 mins pre bed and your protein just before bed.

john_cappa · 01-02-2013 9:32pm

Dietsquirt wrote: »

I must disagree:eek:, twinmuscleworkout are testament to the fact that if you eat healthy & train hard you can get great results. You must remember they're 38 years old and don't do steroids (claim they don't and i believe them).

They do waffle a bit and that particular video you posted is an example of that, but they are funny. They give good advice for noobs or even people who have been training for a few years. Obviously IFBB pros aren't going to take advice from them. I'm guessing their demographic is men aged 18-30.

Just my opinion

They are retards!

Just my opinion!

A_Sober_Paddy · 01-02-2013 9:36pm

john_cappa wrote: »

It's not optimal as the calcium will interfere with absorption but I wouldn't be over concerned (wouldnt waste money on zma on first place).

You could take the zma 60-90 mins pre bed and your protein just before bed.

Have found ZMA's to be very good for me personally also only paid €30 for 3 months supply

john_cappa · 01-02-2013 9:39pm

Never got on with it but I sleep well unless stressed and then nothing will help. Have used 'need to sleep' and it was reasonable!

double GG · 02-02-2013 1:03pm

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

True, but you're not going to take it right before or straight after you train when you need a fast absorbing protein are you? I also like a shake first thing in the morning to get my metabolism going and a fast acting protein like whey isolate is ideal! I only take casein at night but obviously you could take it whenever you felt like it but you could say that about anything?

The myth that you need a fast digesting protein like whey is still around. Many argue that chocolate milk is the best post workout drink right yet the majority of that is casein. Read Here-

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15570142

Acute ingestion of both WH and CS after exercise resulted in similar increases in muscle protein net balance, resulting in net muscle protein synthesis despite different patterns of blood amino acid responses.

And Here- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21045172

In conclusion, whey and casein intake immediately after resistance exercise results in an overall equal MPS response despite temporal differences in insulin and amino acid concentrations

john_cappa wrote: »

Water retention is over exaggerated as a side effect IMO.

It sure is. And when you consider that muscle is made up of around 70-75% water.....

john_cappa · 02-02-2013 2:23pm

^^^

Great post!!

jugger0 · 04-02-2013 9:59pm

Anyone take a greens supplement? can you recommend a good one if so?

A_Sober_Paddy · 04-02-2013 10:48pm

jugger0 wrote: »

Anyone take a greens supplement? can you recommend a good one if so?

Like spirulina?

AH92 · 04-02-2013 11:17pm

Tbh just stick with your whey protein, Fish oil, Multi and optionally vit d and you should be fine. Anything else is just a waste of money.
Towards a weight lifters goal may I add

double GG · 04-02-2013 11:35pm

AH92 wrote: »

Tbh just stick with your whey protein, Fish oil, Multi and optionally vit d and you should be fine. Anything else is just a waste of money.
Towards a weight lifters goal may I add

Creatine perhaps?

AH92 · 04-02-2013 11:39pm

double GG wrote: »

Creatine perhaps?

Yea that's a good addition as well! Haven't used it in a while that's why I forgot about it :rolleyes:

Lago · 04-02-2013 11:46pm

AH92 wrote: »

Tbh just stick with your whey protein, Fish oil, Multi and optionally vit d and you should be fine. Anything else is just a waste of money.
Towards a weight lifters goal may I add

I tend to try food every now and then as well, seems to do the job

AH92 · 05-02-2013 12:23am

Lago wrote: »

I tend to try food every now and then as well, seems to do the job

jugger0 · 05-02-2013 3:50pm

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Like spirulina?

Hmmm never heard of this til now, i was thinking of powdered green vegetables you add to water.. whats spirulina like? would ya recommend?

A_Sober_Paddy · 05-02-2013 4:56pm

jugger0 wrote: »

Hmmm never heard of this til now, i was thinking of powdered green vegetables you add to water.. whats spirulina like? would ya recommend?

Its powdered sea greens, never taken it cause I eat a sh!t load of veg with my dinner most days...

Here is the nutritional breakdown of it
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2765/2

jugger0 · 05-02-2013 5:24pm

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Its powdered sea greens, never taken it cause I eat a sh!t load of veg with my dinner most days...

Here is the nutritional breakdown of it
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2765/2

Thanks for that, how much veg would you eat by the way? i usually eat around 500 grams of brocolli with my dinner, maybe carrots and parsnips on the weekend... not a big veg man to be honest but i dont want to be missing out on the health benefits!

A_Sober_Paddy · 05-02-2013 5:41pm

jugger0 wrote: »

Thanks for that, how much veg would you eat by the way? i usually eat around 500 grams of brocolli with my dinner, maybe carrots and parsnips on the weekend... not a big veg man to be honest but i dont want to be missing out on the health benefits!

I'd normally have 250-300g broccoli, 50-100g Carrots...Those are cooked weight, I'd also have around 30-50g spinach too...

I thought my veg amounts were high but obviously not:o

carly_86 · 05-02-2013 5:44pm

has anyone tried b supreme. i am on this at the moment

jugger0 · 06-02-2013 4:12am

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

I'd normally have 250-300g broccoli, 50-100g Carrots...Those are cooked weight, I'd also have around 30-50g spinach too...

I thought my veg amounts were high but obviously not:o

You can never get enough veg!

A_Sober_Paddy · 06-02-2013 9:43pm

jugger0 wrote: »

You can never get enough veg!

Oh i love veg, I'd rather have an extra plate of veg instead of potatoes

john_cappa · 06-02-2013 9:49pm

Powder greens taste like ****. The worst of the worst.

hollypink · 07-02-2013 12:56pm

I placed an order with iherb for fish oil (capsules and liquid) on the 29th and received it today - 9 days, that's quite good. Never ordered from them before and I went for the cheapest shipping option so I thought it would take a while. I got fish oil from myprotein in the past but wasn't very happy with how long the last delivery took and read here that other people had similar problems with them.

ooPabsoo · 07-02-2013 9:04pm

Just after getting some Beta Alanine. How do you guys take it?...on the pack it says four 1.5g scoops a day, but would it be ok to just take say 5g at once?

RidleyRider · 07-02-2013 9:37pm

Anyone any recommendations for a good pre-workout?

ooPabsoo · 07-02-2013 9:41pm

RidleyRider wrote: »

Anyone any recommendations for a good pre-workout?

I use craze. Its good! Different to the usual per workouts that are full of caffeine. Loads of reviews on bodybuilding.com and other sites so check them out and see if you like the sound of it

double GG · 07-02-2013 10:55pm

RidleyRider wrote: »

Anyone any recommendations for a good pre-workout?

A strong coffee and a handful of winegums.

Oisinjm · 08-02-2013 2:02am

RidleyRider wrote: »

Anyone any recommendations for a good pre-workout?

As was mentioned a strong coffee does it for most, but if you want an actual pre-workout product Gun Powder by ROS is quality. One of the best I've ever tried.

Oisín

RidleyRider · 08-02-2013 2:35am

For the price of some of them I might just stick to redbull. Never tried coffee but it if it tastes how it smells- no way:P

jugger0 · 08-02-2013 2:40am

RidleyRider wrote: »

Anyone any recommendations for a good pre-workout?

Jack3d was the best, nothing else comes close...

Gosh i miss it

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