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Hagz · 22-01-2013 05:12PM

Terenure v Belvo will be shown live on Setanta.

ormond lad · 22-01-2013 05:23PM

Wesley won vinnie semi 15-13.

Marist Athlone beat the Jes in connacht senior first round 16-3

jc4517 · 23-01-2013 04:59PM

ormond lad wrote: »

Wesley won vinnie semi 15-13.

Marist Athlone beat the Jes in connacht senior first round 16-3

The ref was a complete bollox who gave St.Andrews absolutely nothing. Winning Wesley try in the final minute came from a "missed" blatant knock on from the full back who kicked for touch, missed but was knocked on by Andrews in the ensuing counter attack. 14 minutes of injury time was also played, ring a bell anyone (michaels roscrea last year)?

Andrew.cole · 23-01-2013 06:17PM

Stop your moaning.. The better team won

breffnimartin1 · 23-01-2013 07:17PM

jc4517 wrote: »

The ref was a complete bollox who gave St.Andrews absolutely nothing. Winning Wesley try in the final minute came from a "missed" blatant knock on from the full back who kicked for touch, missed but was knocked on by Andrews in the ensuing counter attack. 14 minutes of injury time was also played, ring a bell anyone (michaels roscrea last year)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUCqFKXumBjqgo3LntNV9SEg&v=9EbqCsfbvNQ&feature=player_detailpage

not this guy?

captain should ask ref time left once regulation time is nearly up and shout it to the rest of his team and everyone else....

these things can be annoying - i remember a high school ref who was outragously biased - turned out he had past pupil kids at the school....

.ak · 23-01-2013 07:53PM

Personal abuse will not be tolerated. Anymore will result in a ban.

Rollingball · 23-01-2013 08:59PM

Having watched more school matches than I care to remember the standard of refereeing is appalling to say the least. The amount of time and effort put into the games by these boys and they are Children is not respected by the branches. The matches need to be refereed at the same standard as AIL. Non bias and impartial linesmen are also needed. Some Ref's seem to disregard the rule book.

breffnimartin1 wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUCqFKXumBjqgo3LntNV9SEg&v=9EbqCsfbvNQ&feature=player_detailpage

not this guy?

captain should ask ref time left once regulation time is nearly up and shout it to the rest of his team and everyone else....

these things can be annoying - i remember a high school ref who was outragously biased - turned out he had past pupil kids at the school....

ormond lad · 23-01-2013 09:11PM

Rollingball wrote: »

Having watched more school matches than I care to remember the standard of refereeing is appalling to say the least. The amount of time and effort put into the games by these boys and they are Children is not respected by the branches. The matches need to be refereed at the same standard as AIL. Non bias and impartial linesmen are also needed. Some Ref's seem to disregard the rule book.

Are all linesmen not appointed by ARLB so they would be impartial
The amount of time/effort put in is most certainly respected by the branches(certainly more than youths rugby in many ways). All cup games or virtually all cup games have a ARLB ref and independent touch judges.

Rollingball · 23-01-2013 09:18PM

Well they should be more consistent regarding extra time, allowing coaches on the field of play when clearly they should not be and on too many occasions I have seen teachers from the schools playing as linesmen.

ormond lad wrote: »

Are all linesmen not appointed by ARLB so they would be impartial
The amount of time/effort put in is most certainly respected by the branches(certainly more than youths rugby in many ways). All cup games or virtually all cup games have a ARLB ref and independent touch judges.

ormond lad · 23-01-2013 09:36PM

Rollingball wrote: »

Well they should be more consistent regarding extra time, allowing coaches on the field of play when clearly they should not be and on too many occasions I have seen teachers from the schools playing as linesmen.

Is allowing coaches onto the field such a big issue, to be water carriers etc
Nothing wrong with teachers as linesman if each competing school has a touch judge each. who would you want to be touch judge then if not teachers?
you mean added on time i assume considering extra time not allowed in underage rugby?

thetruth_time · 23-01-2013 10:58PM

ormond lad wrote: »

Is allowing coaches onto the field such a big issue, to be water carriers etc
Nothing wrong with teachers as linesman if each competing school has a touch judge each. who would you want to be touch judge then if not teachers?
you mean added on time i assume considering extra time not allowed in underage rugby?

Teachers as linesmen is a bad idea. I have seen flags stay down when a foot has gone in to touch stealing yards on penalty kicks etc. Not all are like this but unfortunately some are!! Refs have a hard enough job in concentrating on what's going on between the white lines without having to worry about what his linesmen are up to!!

Quint2010 · 24-01-2013 01:16PM

Tony Wards 23 page supplement is in tomorrow Indo. Get ready for lots of "make no mistake about it"'s and "they'd want it no other way"'s...

FrannoFan · 24-01-2013 10:32PM

Tony Ward will have to give Gerards a plug anyway,he will discuss Brewer and Dardis and a few representative players around the place but unlikely to demonstrate any more info on any team that isn't already been said on these pages. www.knockon.ie has a preview out as well.

charliemant · 24-01-2013 10:35PM

Any junior cup betting odds ??leinster and Munster

breffnimartin1 · 25-01-2013 12:02PM

cus beat pres in the junior godfrey quarters yesterday 20 - 5

charliemant · 26-01-2013 11:31AM

Best junior teams ??heard in Munster its Crescent ard scoil and Rockwell and leinster blevo and rock????

ormond lad · 27-01-2013 03:44PM

Anybody with a link for the terenure belvedere game? could they please PM me if they have one

Hagz · 27-01-2013 04:17PM

Pretty poor game. Schmidt and Dardis have been the only impressive ones for me.

Hagz · 27-01-2013 04:26PM

Terenure blow a certain try through no.8 Doyle.

Jesus, then the Belvo winger drops his third intercept..

Hagz · 27-01-2013 05:06PM

Well, can't see Terenure winning it after that. Michael's surely favourites.

ormond lad · 27-01-2013 05:10PM

Hagz wrote: »

Well, can't see Terenure winning it after that. Michael's surely favourites.

will depend on the draw and who each side will play in 1/4s.
when is the draw for next round?

Oldboy 92 · 27-01-2013 05:40PM

Hagz wrote: »

Well, can't see Terenure winning it after that. Michael's surely favourites.

Hard to judge on their first outing mainly due to the conditions. I'm sure they will improve. Would have been interesting if the referee had managed the choke tackle correctly. Once he called maul any nure player ahead of the ball carrier is in an off-side position from that point! Got nure out of trouble on several occasions. Onwards from here and the excitement of the open draw.

Hagz · 27-01-2013 06:40PM

Looking at the spread of quality Michael's seem to have I just can't see past them tbh. Nure look to have quality individuals and the weather would have hampered them today, but I was fairly unimpressed with them. I hope they come up against Blackrock or Roscrea in good weather, then I can really see how good they are.

Inspector Coptoor · 27-01-2013 06:51PM

Hagz wrote: »

Pretty poor game. Schmidt and Dardis have been the only impressive ones for me.

Schmidt was poor I thought, Weakliam played very well when he came on.
Dardis was good but wasnt given enough ball.
Nure 7 was excellent.
Nure had a much bigger pack than I thought & in better shape than last year - esp Borza.

Hagz · 27-01-2013 07:07PM

I thought Schmidt was one of the stand-outs when he was on. Quick service and he was able to put good width on it considering the conditions. He was also a threat in his own right with ball in hand.
Dardis was like a bar of soap. Had no right to get out of some tackles.
Nobody really impressed me in the pack. Thornton was lively and carried well but nothing to write home about imo.
Brewer looked worryingly slow but he showed that he has a good rugby brain at times.

All in all I thought for all the threatening talent they supposedly have, they were fairly blunt. Even Stephen O'Neill who I've only read good things about, looked fairly ordinary. Towards the end of the game Belvedere showed that if you can string some phases together you can definitely trouble them.

ormond lad · 28-01-2013 01:59AM

Irish Times match report on the game
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2013/0128/1224329368825.html

breffnimartin1 · 28-01-2013 01:13PM

pres kilkenny first round senior match has been switched from north kildare to ashbourne rfc and is going ahead...

ormond lad · 28-01-2013 09:05PM

Munster Senior Cup starts tomorrow with Ard Scoil Ris v Glenstal and continues with 2 games on wednesday, Rockwell v Crescent and Munchins v PBC with the final opening round game on thursday between Castletroy and CBC.
All the Limerick Schools are previewed below
Glenstal
St Munchins
Castletroy College
Ardscoil Ris
Crescent Comp

ormond lad · 28-01-2013 10:27PM

Also was anybody at the Kilkenny game today?
Did Sam Sterling start and where if he did?

breffnimartin1 · 30-01-2013 04:02PM

ormond lad wrote: »

Also was anybody at the Kilkenny game today?
Did Sam Sterling start and where if he did?

yes - he played well - #13 i think?

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