Provincial Schools thread 2012-2013 *MOD WARNING POST 1*

breffnimartin1

Pres Kilkenny match here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/breffnimartin

My (admittedly prejudiced) account:

According to met eireann this game was played in a 54km/h gale but all credit to the ashbourne groundsmen given the good quality of the turf.

Pres dominated both territory and possession for the first 20 minutes and three times got within a few yards of the Kilkenny line but Kilkenny defence was solid. Rolling maul from the lineout the best opportunity. Passing the ball out the line where it was taken by the wind and not committing enough forwards to the breakdown didn’t help. Finally Pres opted to take a penalty that shaved the right hand post in the wind. Around the 20 minute mark the play switched to the half way and Kilkenny entered the Pres 22 for the first time. Kilkenny kept it tight but Pres defended well and kept them out. Around 25 minutes in, play switched back with Pres on the attack and they agein got into the Kilkenny 22 but Kilkenny defended well, won a penalty and from the resulting lineout mounted a rolling mall committing the whole pack bringing them to a few yards from the line, then short passes to crash runners produced a try from Kilkenny #12. Kilkenny failed to convert and first half was over. Pres should have taken their opportunity in those first 20 minutes when they had momentum.

Half time score 5 nil for Kilkenny.

In a reverse of the first half the second half started well for Kilkenny, playing into the wind, on the attack. For the first 10 minutes the Kilkenny forwards pushed forward, having changed tactics to keeping the ball in tight and breaking off the edge of rucks but Pres held firm. On about 15 minutes Pres got a penalty on the half way and Pres kicked for goal, the ball dropping about 2 feet short. Nevertheless the Kilkenny clearance set up an attacking platform lineout for Pres from which they set a rolling maul. Unfortunately ball carrier was interfered with by a Kilkenny player who had gone down and not rolled away and ref called a truck and trailer (I think refs sometimes call this because they like the roll of the words; the correct call should have been penalty for Pres for obstruction). From the scrum Kilkenny went back on the attack, keeping the ball in the forwards, playing the weather. With 15 minutes to go the horizontal rain hit and with a series of pick-and-go’s, Kilkenny crossed for a second try missing the conversion.

Score 10 nil for Kilkenny.

From the kick-off Pres were back on the attack winning a penalty on the 22 with 15 minutes to go, which they kicked.
Score 10 – 3 for Kilkenny with 15 minutes regulation time left.

At this point the Pres captain moved into scrum half position but it was too late; Kilkenny put the ball up their jumpers and held onto possession. A couple of missed kicks for touch didn’t help Pres, who fought valiantly to the end.
For Pres this has to be one that got away. Most of the past problems had been fixed. They actually dominated the scrum with a smaller pack, lineout worked well (despite bizarrely throwing to the back), kicks were mostly making touch (except near the end), and moves synced. However Kilkenny played the conditions better, keeping the ball tight amongst the forwards, against Pres risky expansive play in high wind. In decent weather the Pres backline would probably have done it for Pres.

Every player on the field gave it their all – for pres the front row, back row, #5 in lineout, 10, 11, 12 and 15 were outstanding. The Kilkenny back row and scrumhalf, as well as #11 and #13 were impressive – several players seemed to be carrying injuries though...hope not too serious.

Having seen most of this Pres team’s matches over the past six years, seen them win the 2009 Junior League, the Fr. Godfrey Cup in 2010, make the quarter finals of the Junior Cup in 2010 knocked out by Clongowes, beating Newbridge to make the senior quarter finals last year to be knocked out by the cup winners Michaels. Ironically the 2009 Junior Pres team were knocked out in the first round of the cup that year by none other than Kilkenny, on that occasion, very much against the run of play (if I’m not mistaken the Kilkenny try scorer that day was Triggs).

phog

Ard Scoil beat Glenstal 39 -6, I think it was 8 - 6 with about 20min remaining then the floodgates opened.

Imhof Tank

breffnimartin1 wrote: »

Pres Kilkenny match here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/breffnimartin

My (admittedly prejudiced) account:

According to met eireann this game was played in a 54km/h gale but all credit to the ashbourne groundsmen given the good quality of the turf.

Pres dominated both territory and possession for the first 20 minutes and three times got within a few yards of the Kilkenny line but Kilkenny defence was solid. Rolling maul from the lineout the best opportunity. Passing the ball out the line where it was taken by the wind and not committing enough forwards to the breakdown didn’t help. Finally Pres opted to take a penalty that shaved the right hand post in the wind. Around the 20 minute mark the play switched to the half way and Kilkenny entered the Pres 22 for the first time. Kilkenny kept it tight but Pres defended well and kept them out. Around 25 minutes in, play switched back with Pres on the attack and they agein got into the Kilkenny 22 but Kilkenny defended well, won a penalty and from the resulting lineout mounted a rolling mall committing the whole pack bringing them to a few yards from the line, then short passes to crash runners produced a try from Kilkenny #12. Kilkenny failed to convert and first half was over. Pres should have taken their opportunity in those first 20 minutes when they had momentum.

Half time score 5 nil for Kilkenny.

In a reverse of the first half the second half started well for Kilkenny, playing into the wind, on the attack. For the first 10 minutes the Kilkenny forwards pushed forward, having changed tactics to keeping the ball in tight and breaking off the edge of rucks but Pres held firm. On about 15 minutes Pres got a penalty on the half way and Pres kicked for goal, the ball dropping about 2 feet short. Nevertheless the Kilkenny clearance set up an attacking platform lineout for Pres from which they set a rolling maul. Unfortunately ball carrier was interfered with by a Kilkenny player who had gone down and not rolled away and ref called a truck and trailer (I think refs sometimes call this because they like the roll of the words; the correct call should have been penalty for Pres for obstruction). From the scrum Kilkenny went back on the attack, keeping the ball in the forwards, playing the weather. With 15 minutes to go the horizontal rain hit and with a series of pick-and-go’s, Kilkenny crossed for a second try missing the conversion.

Score 10 nil for Kilkenny.

From the kick-off Pres were back on the attack winning a penalty on the 22 with 15 minutes to go, which they kicked.
Score 10 – 3 for Kilkenny with 15 minutes regulation time left.

At this point the Pres captain moved into scrum half position but it was too late; Kilkenny put the ball up their jumpers and held onto possession. A couple of missed kicks for touch didn’t help Pres, who fought valiantly to the end.
For Pres this has to be one that got away. Most of the past problems had been fixed. They actually dominated the scrum with a smaller pack, lineout worked well (despite bizarrely throwing to the back), kicks were mostly making touch (except near the end), and moves synced. However Kilkenny played the conditions better, keeping the ball tight amongst the forwards, against Pres risky expansive play in high wind. In decent weather the Pres backline would probably have done it for Pres.

Every player on the field gave it their all – for pres the front row, back row, #5 in lineout, 10, 11, 12 and 15 were outstanding. The Kilkenny back row and scrumhalf, as well as #11 and #13 were impressive – several players seemed to be carrying injuries though...hope not too serious.

Having seen most of this Pres team’s matches over the past six years, seen them win the 2009 Junior League, the Fr. Godfrey Cup in 2010, make the quarter finals of the Junior Cup in 2010 knocked out by Clongowes, beating Newbridge to make the senior quarter finals last year to be knocked out by the cup winners Michaels. Ironically the 2009 Junior Pres team were knocked out in the first round of the cup that year by none other than Kilkenny, on that occasion, very much against the run of play (if I’m not mistaken the Kilkenny try scorer that day was Triggs).

Well Breffni, I for one have enjoyed your youtube videos and updates from within the Pres camp immensely.

This is the real essence of schools cup rugby for the mid tier teams - ok they will feel that this was an opportunity of a quarter final that got away, although to my eyes KK deserved the win - but all of those players can hold their heads high. Far better I think to go out after an honourable battle like that than to be drawn against a powerhouse and be destroyed.

I suppose its the end of the line for you as well now if your son is in 6th year?

breffnimartin1

Imhof Tank wrote: »

Well Breffni, I for one have enjoyed your youtube videos and updates from within the Pres camp immensely.

This is the real essence of schools cup rugby for the mid tier teams - ok they will feel that this was an opportunity of a quarter final that got away, although to my eyes KK deserved the win - but all of those players can hold their heads high. Far better I think to go out after an honourable battle like that than to be drawn against a powerhouse and be destroyed.

I suppose its the end of the line for you as well now if your son is in 6th year?

On the day KK were under real pressure for 20 minutes at the start - one lucky bounce and a try at that point would have been huge - but i agree, KK were better drilled and had better composure...i really thought Jay at scrumhalf on a day like that would have made a difference. But yes, better to go out like that...

Most of the lads seem to be joining Greystones rfc so ill probably be posting a few clips from there or whatever university Louis ends up in.

They might contest the "plate" but i doubt!

all the best

ormond lad

phog wrote: »

Ard Scoil beat Glenstal 39 -6, I think it was 8 - 6 with about 20min remaining then the floodgates opened.

Big win for Ard Scoil
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/11516

1/4 round 2 draw
Munchins v Crescent
Rockwell v loser of tomorrows Castletroy and CBC game
winner Castletroy/CBC v Glenstal
Ard Scoil v PBC

mrpdap

ormond lad wrote: »

Big win for Ard Scoil
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/11516

1/4 round 2 draw
Munchins v Crescent
Rockwell v loser of tomorrows Castletroy and CBC game
winner Castletroy/CBC v Glenstal
Ard Scoil v PBC

Not quite:
Pres play Crescent
Rockwell play tomorrow's loser
Tomorrow's winner play Glenstal
Ard Scoil play Munchins
??

thetruth_time

mrpdap wrote: »

Not quite:
Pres play Crescent
Rockwell play tomorrow's loser
Tomorrow's winner play Glenstal
Ard Scoil play Munchins
??

Anyone catch any of these games?

Paumcg1973

I think it is pbc vrs crescent and ard scoil vrs munchins

ormond lad

mrpdap wrote: »

Not quite:
Pres play Crescent
Rockwell play tomorrow's loser
Tomorrow's winner play Glenstal
Ard Scoil play Munchins
??

thanks
Rockwell and Ard Scoil look strong.

mrpdap

ormond lad wrote: »

thanks
Rockwell and Ard Scoil look strong.

Potential semi?
CBC beat Castletroy 13 11 today

charliemant

Munster and leinster junior cups startin next week ??teams to look out for or players?

ormond lad

charliemant wrote: »

Munster and leinster junior cups startin next week ??teams to look out for or players?

same teams as when you asked the last time.

Leinster Senior quarter finalists are below
Terenure Newbridge Kilkenny Roscrea
St. Michaels Monkstown Clongowes Blackrock

Draw is tomorrow

Junior Cups in Munster and Leinster start this week. who do people think will go far in both competitions?
St.Marys College v Kings Hospital
Terenure v Gonzaga
Cistercian Roscrea v St.Gerards
Blackrock v
Belvedere v Kilkenny College
Clongowes Wood v St.Michaels
v Newbridge

pbc v crescent
glenstal v castletroy
rockwell v munchins
cbc v ard scoil

ormond lad

Leinster 1/4s draw
Clongowes v 'Michaels
Roscrea v Terenure
Newbridge v CBC Monkstown
Blackrock v Kilkenny

Some interesting games. around when these games due to be played(i know times/dates etc will be confirmed later today)

fox_1973

ormond lad wrote: »

Leinster 1/4s draw
Clongowes v 'Michaels
Roscrea v Terenure
Newbridge v CBC Monkstown
Blackrock v Kilkenny

Some interesting games. around when these games due to be played(i know times/dates etc will be confirmed later today)

from the 19th to 25th

ormond lad

All games 4pm kickoff
Monday, February 18th:
Newbridge College v CBC Monkstown (Donnybrook)

Tuesday, February 19th:
Cistercian College Roscrea v Terenure College (Tallaght Stadium)

Wednesday, February 20th:
Blackrock College v Kilkenny College (Donnybrook)

Friday, February 22nd:
Clongowes Wood College SJ v St. Michael's College (Donnybrook)
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10957.php

ormond lad

Any results from todays connacht senior games?
Garbally v Sligo Grammar and Rice College v Marist

ormond lad

Junior Cup results
Blackrock 51 Pats Navan 0
Terenure 10 Gonzaga 0
Wesley 0 Newbridge 48

Castletroy 8 Glenstal 5

Quint2010

ormond lad wrote: »

Junior Cup results
Blackrock 51 Pats Navan 0
Terenure 10 Gonzaga 0
Wesley 0 Newbridge 48

Castletroy 8 Glenstal 5

Terenure 0 Gonazaga 10

the baby bull elephant

Marys 20 - KH 8

charliemant

ormond lad wrote: »

Junior Cup results
Blackrock 51 Pats Navan 0
Terenure 10 Gonzaga 0
Wesley 0 Newbridge 48

Castletroy 8 Glenstal 5

who played well in castle nd glenstal match would've thought glenstal would win that one!

ormond lad

charliemant wrote: »

who played well in castletroy and glenstal match would've thought glenstal would win that one!

match report from the munster website here says Castletroy had good performers in Jack O'Mara, Evan Slattery and David Rowsome with Conor Fleming and Jamie Heuston a sold halfback combination.
Glenstal had excellent backs in Jack Stafford, Charles Gavin and especially Gordon Daly with James Enright and Theo Broderick doing well in the pack.

shawneebuy

Today in Wexford
Vinnie Murray Plate
CBS Wexford....20 Templeogue College....17

themont85

shawneebuy wrote: »

Today in Wexford
Vinnie Murray Plate
CBS Wexford....20 Templeogue College....17

How the mighty have fallen. Such a pity to see Templeogue rugby the way it is. Congrats to CBS Wexford, however.

thetruth_time

Looks like the schools are back into FIRA.

ormond lad

thetruth_time wrote: »

Looks like the schools are back into FIRA.

where did you see that and from when?

opinionatedfan

thetruth_time wrote: »

Looks like the schools are back into FIRA.

good news

thetruth_time

ormond lad wrote: »

where did you see that and from when?

Just heard it from a reliable source.

Hagz

I'm fairly certain it's still the clubs. The Irish u-18 club team is playing Old Wesley u21's at Ashbourne RFC on Saturday @2.00pm as a warm up game to the European Competition.

thetruth_time

Hagz wrote: »

I'm fairly certain it's still the clubs. The Irish u-18 club team is playing Old Wesley u21's at Ashbourne RFC on Saturday @2.00pm as a warm up game to the European Competition.

Oh right, May not be true so.
I think the schools should be in the comp as they have a greater chance of winning.
But since the clubs have been preparing for fira it would be unfair of irfu to change their minds at this late stage. ( if true that is )

ormond lad

thetruth_time wrote: »

Oh right, May not be true so.
I think the schools should be in the comp as they have a greater chance of winning.
But since the clubs have been preparing for fira it would be unfair of irfu to change their minds at this late stage. ( if true that is )

There could be a change for next year so the schools are the irish representatives like they have been for the past 2 seasons but it will be the youths this season as there will not be any change so late in the season.