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Biggest psychopath in history?

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  • 23-12-2012 5:29am
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    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Who in your opinion was the worst human being to ever walk this planet regardless of any innate mental health problems. I was thinking Hitler, what makes it even worse for him was that he wasn't suffering from psychotic tendencies, he was born perfectly normal. Another person I think of is Thug Behram, who was responsible for 931 murders in India in the 19th century, his name is the origin of the word thug in our language.


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    4zn76tysfajdxp
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    I was thinking Hitler, what makes it even worse for him was that he wasn't suffering from psychotic tendencies

    When he was a baby, like?


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    Arawn
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    Whoever invented the first god. They are dead thousands of years and are still causing deaths


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    Czarcasm
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    The fella who invented the internet.


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    feargalmcc1
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    The government


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    Where To
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    Stalin killed at least ten million of his own people, probably more than double that.

    That's pretty good going for a madman I reckon.


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    FanadMan
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    Adam.......from his first child, his offspring has killed billions


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    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Jamie Uneven Necktie wrote: »
    When he was a baby, like?

    A psychopath is born with the problem. Historian's in psycho analysing him found no signs of mental illness in his early development and early adulthood, he developed his crazy views over time. His final mind state was subject to outside influence, a psychopath is born bad. It's an innate feature.


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    Arawn
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    FanadMan wrote: »
    Adam.......from his first child, his offspring has killed billions

    History, as in people who existed. Thousands of years from now do you think people will believe in spiderman?


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    tommyboy2222
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Who in your opinion was the worst human being to ever walk this planet

    Louis Walsh


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    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    Where To wrote: »
    Stalin killed at least ten million of his own people, probably more than double that.

    That's pretty good going for a madman I reckon.

    Some estimates put that figure above 60 million.


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    Dartz
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    There're plenty of Popes, Kings and Immams who're known only to historians... A few Chinese emperors maybe.

    The only thing Hitler and Stalin had on their sides were notoriety and industry to make for the megadeaths. Pol Pot comes close. Maybe a few African generals.

    It's hard to beat Pol Pot for sheer malevolence.


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    CrackisWhack
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    Larry Murphy


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    WumBuster
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    Difficult to say. Hitler or Stalin never underwent psychological assessments to declare whether they were outright psychopaths or just delusional and misguided, products of their time. Of the two Stalin is the most likely as he reportedly never expressed any emotions.


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    dodderangler
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Who in your opinion was the worst human being to ever walk this planet regardless of any innate mental health problems. I was thinking Hitler, what makes it even worse for him was that he wasn't suffering from psychotic tendencies, he was born perfectly normal. Another person I think of is Thug Behram, who was responsible for 931 murders in India in the 19th century, his name is the origin of the word thug in our language.
    Hitler was not born normal
    He grew up basically a midget with a gimp leg
    Chap was nuts

    Psychopath wise I'd go with likes of Charles Manson
    And Jeffrey dalmer
    And any Cnut that killed children in my opinion


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    the_syco
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    Arawn wrote: »
    Whoever invented the first god.
    Gods are generally used to explain the unknown.


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    Sunnyisland
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    Dr harold shipman

    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=dr%20harold%20shipman&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHarold_Shipman&ei=dZHWUNHuM4mYhQef-IGwBA&usg=AFQjCNGcSHeWw9ksH0odBMyFTMmKm5-wBg&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.ZG4


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    Sunnyisland
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    Why am i awake ???


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    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Ted Bundy is another good example of a person born with psychotic tendencies. Jeffery Dahmer like somebody mentioned is another. The one striking feature about Dahmer was that he expressed remorse for his actions and was cleared to stand trial as a sane person, this bucks the trend somewhat. I think in his case there was a sexual aspect to his crimes, he achieved sexual gratification from dismembering bodies.


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    dr gonzo
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    Surely an impossible question to answer. Is this question being asked based on figures or methodology or what?


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    Sunnyisland
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    Just thinking here, My ex wife was a bit of the trolley :-)


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    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    dr gonzo wrote: »
    Surely an impossible question to answer. Is this question being asked based on figures or methodology or what?

    Yes I put it out there for a discussion. It's purely opinion based, I don't expect us to agree on any one name.


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    tdv123
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    Tommy DeSimone.


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    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Salvatore Gravano of the Gambino Mafia Family is another one. Jimmy Coonan the leader of the Irish mob 'The Westies' in Hell's Kitchen Manhattan was another deeply disturbed individual, his captains described his sadism in dept when Jimmy stood trial. Coonan came from a good middle class background but yet found a way to indulge his diseased mind. Gotti Jnr stated in court that the Mafia only took on the Westies because they were afraid of the consequences if they didn't.


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    Sunnyisland
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    Is any person who kills/murder people psychopaths ? what about eamon dunne who was alleged to have over 12/13 people murdered here ?


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    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    realies wrote: »
    Is any person who kills/murder people psychopaths ?

    No it's an innate feature in a person. The word is often misused in modern media.


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    Sunnyisland
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    No it's an innate feature in a person. The word is often misused in modern media.


    Explain more there please DEFTLEFTHAND, genuine interested :)


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    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    realies wrote: »
    Explain more there please DEFTLEFTHAND, genuine interested :)

    It's a personality disorder characterised by shallow emotions. No empathy, no fear, irresponsibility, egocentricity and lack of remorse. It often leads to anti social behaviour, because they lack such features as empathy or remorse they tend to veer off in the wrong direction in life. It's a recognised mental disorder, the person can't help the way they act. In most cases it's untreatable.


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    marcsignal
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    realies wrote: »
    Dr harold shipman

    the old dear hunter ?


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    Galwayguy35
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Ted Bundy is another good example of a person born with psychotic tendencies. Jeffery Dahmer like somebody mentioned is another. The one striking feature about Dahmer was that he expressed remorse for his actions and was cleared to stand trial as a sane person, this bucks the trend somewhat. I think in his case there was a sexual aspect to his crimes, he achieved sexual gratification from dismembering bodies.


    I watched a programme about Bundy, he was a well educated guy who socialised in well to do circles and was a sadistic killer behind it all.

    He admitted to 30 murders I think but it was reckoned he killed well over a hundred girls.


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    crazygeryy
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    Dartz wrote: »

    It's hard to beat Pol Pot for sheer malevolence.

    all he did was win britains got talent, he's hardly a psychopath.

    ted bundy


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