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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Winty


    [Quote=Fenian Army;81038739What a terrible shame he didn't stay up north and get shot in his big fat mouth. I hope he dies screaming.:mad:This "both sides are as bad as each other" nonsense gets on my nerves, big difference between some drunk guy in a pub and the carry on unionists get up to
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    Was it unionists who pulled out guns in Dublin at a funeral, that is not how society should act


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Winty wrote: »
    Was it unionists who pulled out guns in Dublin at a funeral, that is not how society should act

    That was condemned by every political party including SF. When so called 'loyalists' act like a bunch of animals their behaviour is downplayed by the DUP (the largest Unionist political party) and described as 'frustration'.

    Yep, frustration. They're frustrated that they can't act like a bunch of sectarian cretins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    That was condemned by every political party including SF. When so called 'loyalists' act like a bunch of animals their behaviour is downplayed by the DUP (the largest Unionist political party) and described as 'frustration'.

    Yep, frustration. They're frustrated that they can't act like a bunch of sectarian cretins.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15832376

    Attitudes like that led loyalists to murder Gerard Lawlor , and to smash up his memorial two days ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Its your sort of attitude that leads me to not give a monkeys if ye kill each other, just keep the vitriol up North. We don't want or need it down south. I've said my piece, enjoy your imaginary war.:rolleyes:

    Sorry but thats extremely easy for you to say. Your husband got threathened. Many who have posted here have lost family and friends over this. My uncle was one of first of the civil rights organisers (michael mcloughlin if anyone wants to check, heres a copy of the ruc officers report detailing his submission to march on civil rights). Anyway a couple of friends of his were a protestent-catholic couple and they were mutilated by knuckle draggers like these because they went to the wrong party. When people up the north were discrimnated because of their religion a lot of people in the south held your attitude and that reaped whirlwinds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15832376

    Attitudes like that led loyalists to murder Gerard Lawlor , and to smash up his memorial two days ago.

    Dinosaurs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Thanks for the link Fenian army. This stood out in particular
    The book also notes that nine out of 10 Orangemen think Protestants are discriminated against.

    Heres why it stood out for me. As I said my uncle was involved in civil rights marchs with protestents and catholics. The protestents that marched with him were threathened and called fenians. The OO thugs threathened them also and many of them left the north to live in the south. Including some protestent members of my family. Just like the northern part of the country was gerry mendered the oo gerry mandered a lot of the protestent population and anyone who didnt represent their bigoted views wasnt a real protestent. I find it insulting to think that these people represent protestents in the slightest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    The obvious solution to this, if you're a catholic, is to clap, cheer and/or dance when one of these marches rolls on in. Treat them like a mini parade.

    They'll get so confused they'll probably have to stop.

    Or start a mass irish dance session as they pass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    karma_ wrote: »
    Thought it was nice to see them honour the serial killer Edward McIlwaine on one of the platforms for the covenant celebration. That's right, one of the Shankill butchers on show.

    Not even Nick Griffin would do that. Imagine being worse than Nick Griffin :o Those marches attract some dregs and scummers. OO and BNP two cheeks of the same arse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭Il Trap


    karma_ wrote: »
    Thought it was nice to see them honour the serial killer Edward McIlwaine on one of the platforms for the covenant celebration. That's right, one of the Shankill butchers on show.
    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    That piece of filth came running down south with his tail between his legs decades ago, a local drunk propping up the bar. Fighting his war south of the border by venting his spleen on innocent tourists. Brave, brave men those lads.

    Lol wut, implying he is a coward because he is from the north and lives down here? have you forgotten the south abandoned its people up north to the brutality of the Brits? standing buy while unionist mobs killed Irish people in their homes... im ashamed of our government and people like you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Lol wut, implying he is a coward because he is from the north and lives down here? have you forgotten the south abandoned its people up north to the brutality of the Brits? standing buy while unionist mobs killed Irish people in their homes... im ashamed of our government and people like you.

    They did send the Army to the border to be fair...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭working fool


    These people call themselves loyalists
    Who are they loyal to ?
    The royal family couldent keep their future queens tits out of the papers .
    They need a quick update on their "situation"
    A march through the streets of Kabul might test their loyalty ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Lol wut, implying he is a coward because he is from the north and lives down here? have you forgotten the south abandoned its people up north to the brutality of the Brits? standing buy while unionist mobs killed Irish people in their homes... im ashamed of our government and people like you.
    i dont think the south treated its protestants that well itself,from a free state protestant population of 27% in 1920, its down to only 5% today ,and thats not by accident,yet the catholic population in the north has increased,dont know why that is ,because if i was a catholic living in the north ,i would pay my two euro bus fare,and head for the promised land.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭Slurryface


    These people call themselves loyalists
    Who are they loyal to ?
    The royal family couldent keep their future queens tits out of the papers .
    They need a quick update on their "situation"
    A march through the streets of Kabul might test their loyalty ?
    And leading lights in Sinn Fein allegedly couldn't help raping their own daughters!
    And your point is exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,534 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Slurryface wrote: »
    And leading lights in Sinn Fein allegedly couldn't help raping their own daughters!
    And your point is exactly?

    Slurryface wrote: »
    An individual trangreesed, an organization apologized, no story here folks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭working fool


    Slurryface wrote: »
    These people call themselves loyalists
    Who are they loyal to ?
    The royal family couldent keep their future queens tits out of the papers .
    They need a quick update on their "situation"
    A march through the streets of Kabul might test their loyalty ?
    And leading lights in Sinn Fein allegedly couldn't help raping their own daughters!
    And your point is exactly?

    And jimmy savile was a naughty boy
    But this thread isint about him

    Jim'll fix it
    Or
    The Adams family
    Is it ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭Slurryface


    And jimmy savile was a naughty boy
    But this thread isint about him

    Jim'll fix it
    Or
    The Adams family
    Is it ?
    Nor is about comparing Unionism / Loyalism with pictures (illegally taken)of a young woman on holiday in France.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    All the bigotry on both sides makes me sick. I live in Clare, my husband is English. The first time he came to Ireland, literally the 2nd day he was here, he went up to the bar to get us a drink. Some old Northern c@nt said ' if I was 20 years younger I'd f@cking shoot you dead'. WTF?:confused:

    That piece of filth came running down south with his tail between his legs decades ago, a local drunk propping up the bar. Fighting his war south of the border by venting his spleen on innocent tourists. Brave, brave men those lads.

    What a terrible shame he didn't stay up north and get shot in his big fat mouth. I hope he dies screaming.:mad:

    Was your husband taking responsibility for the people in England who put out signs saying 'No Dogs, No Irish'?
    Because if he wasn't then a drunk mouthing off in a bar in Clare is hardly the responsibility of SF or the IRA nor is he representative of sober and committed republican citizens.
    The idiocy and feigned victimhood of some of our English visitors is already legendary and laughable, your story is just another contribution to that long list!


  • Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭working fool


    Slurryface wrote: »
    And jimmy savile was a naughty boy
    But this thread isint about him

    Jim'll fix it
    Or
    The Adams family
    Is it ?
    Nor is about comparing Unionism / Loyalism with pictures (illegally taken)of a young woman on holiday in France.

    Sarcasm not ur forte ?

    What were u suggesting earlier
    Where they protesting about Sinn Fein ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    getz wrote: »
    i dont think the south treated its protestants that well itself,from a free state protestant population of 27% in 1920, its down to only 5% today ,and thats not by accident,yet the catholic population in the north has increased,dont know why that is ,because if i was a catholic living in the north ,i would pay my two euro bus fare,and head for the promised land.

    Catholics share parity of esteem, equal oppurtunities, and power in the North now, because of the efforts of some or had that escaped your attention?
    Protestants always had that in the South; where even allowed to and got funding for a distinct and separate education system, and had the unfettered ability to rise to the top-politically (and frequently did) and in all strands of life. Their decline is down to other reasons and not any directed or official policy of discrimination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    getz wrote: »
    i dont think the south treated its protestants that well itself,from a free state protestant population of 27% in 1920, its down to only 5% today ,and thats not by accident,yet the catholic population in the north has increased,dont know why that is ,because if i was a catholic living in the north ,i would pay my two euro bus fare,and head for the promised land.

    The south didn't discriminate against protestants, we had a protestant president ! while meanwhile in the north Catholics couldn't get jobs or homes and were routinely killed for being a different religion. Obviously the protestants who left were unionists and couldn't stand being under the rule of "free state bastards" or whatever else those lads like to call us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭AEDIC


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Was your husband taking responsibility for the people in England who put out signs saying 'No Dogs, No Irish'?
    Because if he wasn't then a drunk mouthing off in a bar in Clare is hardly the responsibility of SF or the IRA nor is he representative of sober and committed republican citizens.
    The idiocy and feigned victimhood of some of our English visitors is already legendary and laughable, your story is just another contribution to that long list!

    And that is your opinion, because you prefer to view it that way, however the people that are threatened with death or violence and their families have a different opinion....however you seem to not be able to let them have that opinion without trying to ridicule it. Odd really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    AEDIC wrote: »
    And that is your opinion, because you prefer to view it that way, however the people that are threatened with death or violence and their families have a different opinion....however you seem to not be able to let them have that opinion without trying to ridicule it. Odd really.

    Because it's straight out of the Joe Duffy School of hysterical indignation.....how often do you take somebody you recognise as 'propping up a bar, drunk' seriously?
    I can 'recognise' a partitionist bias hiding behind a hissy fit from a mile off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭AEDIC


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Because it's straight out of the Joe Duffy School of hysterical indignation.....how often do you take somebody you recognise as 'propping up a bar, drunk' seriously?
    I can 'recognise' a partitionist bias hiding behind a hissy fit from a mile off.

    If you were on the receiving end of it you might think differently, as you do in your car incident for example.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    AEDIC wrote: »
    If you were on the receiving end of it you might think differently, as you do in your car incident for example.

    I think you need to adjust your sense of proportion meter. :rolleyes:

    If you are going to make a drunken comment, (frequently said in jest, by insensitve louts btw) representative of anything other than drunken louts then I'm out of your sphere of influence I'm afraid. You have bigger problems just getting out of your house.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭AEDIC


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I think you need to adjust your sense of proportion meter. :rolleyes:

    If you are going to make a drunken comment, (frequently said in jest, by insensitve louts btw) representative of anything other than drunken louts then I'm out of your sphere of influence I'm afraid. You have bigger problems just getting out of your house.

    Again - resorting to getting personal. Are you really sure you are stable enough to be on boards?

    You need to read what is posted.... I am not making any opinion about the incident, I AM however, making comment about your blinkered view based on your own bias about the opinions and experiences that other people whose view does not agree with yours are 'allowed' to have.

    Simply because you refuse to have it register on YOUR scale of potentially violent threats, doesn't mean that it should be ridiculed or the honesty of the 'victim' questioned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    AEDIC wrote: »

    You need to read what is posted..

    I did and I reacted to it's validity as a contribution to the thread. Is that not allowed on Boards? Is it a platform for opinion or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    jugger0 wrote: »
    The south didn't discriminate against protestants, we had a protestant president ! while meanwhile in the north Catholics couldn't get jobs or homes and were routinely killed for being a different religion. Obviously the protestants who left were unionists and couldn't stand being under the rule of "free state bastards" or whatever else those lads like to call us.
    how can you stand there with a straight face and say that,we are talking about 18% of irishmen who left ireland to go to another country because they were protestant,it seems strange to me to see that northern irelands population never changes dispite the troubles,yet south of the border over 40,000 young irishmen are leaving the country every year to live in protestant foreign countries like england,scotland,wales and northern ireland,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Catholics share parity of esteem, equal oppurtunities, and power in the North now, because of the efforts of some or had that escaped your attention?
    Protestants always had that in the South; where even allowed to and got funding for a distinct and separate education system, and had the unfettered ability to rise to the top-politically (and frequently did) and in all strands of life. Their decline is down to other reasons and not any directed or official policy of discrimination.
    maybe you do not know,but the irish goverment is in breach of the european courts for child human rights,its about the church control of education...,many irish protestants and jews after 1920 found that they would have difficulty getting places in schools for their children,beds in the catholic run hospitals and the other state catholic run services,a research by a university in cork on the decrease in non catholics in the state believe that is the reason many left,another reason was the clampdown by the catholic church on mixed marriages,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    getz wrote: »
    how can you stand there with a straight face and say that,we are talking about 18% of irishmen who left ireland to go to another country because they were protestant,it seems strange to me to see that northern irelands population never changes dispite the troubles,yet south of the border over 40,000 young irishmen are leaving the country every year to live in protestant foreign countries like england,scotland,wales and northern ireland,
    Where are you getting the figure that 27% of the population of the 26 counties was protestant. Bit odd considering in the 1911 census it was less than 11%!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭AEDIC


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I did and I reacted to it's validity as a contribution to the thread. Is that not allowed on Boards? Is it a platform for opinion or not?


    Indeed - and it is also possible to put over your own opinion without ridiculing the experiences or opinion of another.

    Dismissing it out of hand because it doesn't fit with your own agenda is in my opinion puerile.

    My comment about not reading the posts btw was directed at you not reading mine properly and resorting to getting personal, not the original poster you took exception to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    AEDIC wrote: »
    Indeed - and it is also possible to put over your own opinion without ridiculing the experiences or opinion of another.

    Dismissing it out of hand because it doesn't fit with your own agenda is in my opinion puerile.

    My comment about not reading the posts btw was directed at you not reading mine properly and resorting to getting personal, not the original poster you took exception to.


    I don't have and never did have a problem ridiculing and dismissing, out of context, off topic, hysterical posts.
    The thread is about 'orange provocation not Clare barflys or English visitors who shouldn't be let out on their own. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    getz wrote: »
    we are talking about 18% of irishmen who left ireland

    Just as well they did...I married one of the women they left behind. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Was your husband taking responsibility for the people in England who put out signs saying 'No Dogs, No Irish'? Because if he wasn't then a drunk mouthing off in a bar in Clare is hardly the responsibility of SF or the IRA nor is he representative of sober and committed republican citizens.
    The idiocy and feigned victimhood of some of our English visitors is already legendary and laughable, your story is just another contribution to that long list!

    yeah, right.

    Feigned victimhood :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Where are you getting the figure that 27% of the population of the 26 counties was protestant. Bit odd considering in the 1911 census it was less than 11%!
    yes it is odd it was from a study by a cork university,but this may give some insite into the protestant decline,in 1989 the influential dublin magazine magill,printed figures showing that between the census of 1911-the last to preecede the treaty-and 1981, the protestant population in the 26 counties fell by 63%,the drop up to 1989 it is estimated at 68%,the causes of this dramatic decrease-from 10% in 1911 to 3.4% in 1981 and about 2.5% in the late 80 -were listed as :alianation from the ethos of the state,;emigration,and over later decades mixed marriges,the roman churches decree,backed by the irish courts that in mixed marriges children must be brought up as roman catholics,created ;social and cultural apartheid;which more often than not,heralded the end of the line for protestant families,the single bigest drop in protestant numbers says the magazine occurred between 1911 and 1926 when a third of the population left the state,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    yeah, right.

    Feigned victimhood :rolleyes:

    I made no comment on the 'signs', or tried to make them representative of anything, but I could have if I indulged in the same hysterical Duffyisms that the poster did. The poster was trying to make a generalisation of a glib drunken comment from somebody who may or may not have been involved in the conflict. There are plenty of fireside republicans just as there are plenty of moral high grounders.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    getz wrote: »
    yes it is odd it was from a study by a cork university,but this may give some insite into the protestant decline,in 1989 the influential dublin magazine magill,printed figures showing that between the census of 1911-the last to preecede the treaty-and 1981, the protestant population in the 26 counties fell by 63%,the drop up to 1989 it is estimated at 68%,the causes of this dramatic decrease-from 10% in 1911 to 3.4% in 1981 and about 2.5% in the late 80 -were listed as :alianation from the ethos of the state,;emigration,and over later decades mixed marriges,the roman churches decree,backed by the irish courts that in mixed marriges children must be brought up as roman catholics,created ;social and cultural apartheid;which more often than not,heralded the end of the line for protestant families,the single bigest drop in protestant numbers says the magazine occurred between 1911 and 1926 when a third of the population left the state,

    A link to source would be mannerly, as would punctuation. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I don't have and never did have a problem ridiculing and dismissing, out of context, off topic, hysterical posts.
    The thread is about 'orange provocation not Clare barflys or English visitors who shouldn't be let out on their own. ;)
    would you still be a happyman if none of the three million a year english visitors did not spend their money/holidays in ireland ?,you give me a good laugh anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I made no comment on the 'signs', or tried to make them representative of anything, but I could have if I indulged in the same hysterical Duffyisms that the poster did. The poster was trying to make a generalisation of a glib drunken comment from somebody who may or may not have been involved in the conflict. There are plenty of fireside republicans just as there are plenty of moral high grounders.

    You were doing exactly what you accused another poster of doing to be honest.

    I've never seen any English people feign victimhood on here either, so I'm not sure how you can dismiss this as laughable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    getz wrote: »
    would you still be a happyman if none of the three million a year english visitors did not spend their money/holidays in ireland ?,you give me a good laugh anyway

    Would the English have any decent roads to drive on if the Irish had taken seriously their incipient and latent rascism over the years? Get a grip and a sense of proportion!:rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42



    I've never seen any English people feign victimhood on here either, so I'm not sure how you can dismiss this as laughable.

    Exactly, it is generally stated secondhand by Irish posters with another agenda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Would the English have any decent roads to drive on if the Irish had taken seriously their incipient and latent rascism over the years? Get a grip and a sense of proportion!:rolleyes:
    that does not make sense


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Would the English have any decent roads to drive on if the Irish had taken seriously their incipient and latent rascism over the years? Get a grip and a sense of proportion!:rolleyes:

    English roads built by the Irish
    Irish Roads built by the Polish.
    I wonder who is building Polish roads?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    English roads built by the Irish
    Irish Roads built by the Polish.
    I wonder who is building Polish roads?:D
    dont know but i bet the money came from the german/french/UK taxpayers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Exactly, it is generally stated secondhand by Irish posters with another agenda.

    Not wishing to drag this off topic, but that may be because Irish people are more sensitive to it.

    I've had abuse for being English, but only from the usual ****wit who would also abuse a lampost if they thought it would react. I've always dismissed this because I don't care if a ****wit wants to abuse me for being English. I'm English by birth, they are a ****wit by choice.

    My Irish friends always react though, because they see it as an embarrassment and a slur on them, almost guilty by association if you like. There's no need for them to feel like that, but I guess I would feel the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    getz wrote: »
    that does not make sense

    Generalising drunken comments into them being representative of anything other that drunken slobbering is what didn't make any sense.
    If tourists are put off by such, it would have happened long ago, in darker and more unpolitically correct times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    There is a topic. Stick to it. And stop dragging the thread off that topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Not wishing to drag this off topic, but that may be because Irish people are more sensitive to it.

    I've had abuse for being English, but only from the usual ****wit who would also abuse a lampost if they thought it would react. I've always dismissed this because I don't care if a ****wit wants to abuse me for being English. I'm English by birth, they are a ****wit by choice.

    My Irish friends always react though, because they see it as an embarrassment and a slur on them, almost guilty by association if you like. There's no need for them to feel like that, but I guess I would feel the same.

    As I would...react whenever anybody slurs a foreign friend. But that is generally that, I don't go on to try and infer that the comment is representative of the mindset of any others, I wouldn't even infer that it is the view of the guy sitting next to the ****wit.
    As I say, some people need to get a sense of proportion when faced with common or garden ****wittery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    getz wrote: »
    yes it is odd it was from a study by a cork university,but this may give some insite into the protestant decline,in 1989 the influential dublin magazine magill,printed figures showing that between the census of 1911-the last to preecede the treaty-and 1981, the protestant population in the 26 counties fell by 63%,the drop up to 1989 it is estimated at 68%,the causes of this dramatic decrease-from 10% in 1911 to 3.4% in 1981 and about 2.5% in the late 80 -were listed as :alianation from the ethos of the state,;emigration,and over later decades mixed marriges,the roman churches decree,backed by the irish courts that in mixed marriges children must be brought up as roman catholics,created ;social and cultural apartheid;which more often than not,heralded the end of the line for protestant families,the single bigest drop in protestant numbers says the magazine occurred between 1911 and 1926 when a third of the population left the state,

    Any chance of a link to this study?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Any chance of a link to this study?
    i have been unable to get the link up from the magill archives in 1989,but i have found the study on a ian paisleys website, ianpaisley.org/artical.asap%3FArtKey%Dtreatment


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