Euro 2012 Betting

PhlegmyMoses · 18-05-2012 11:08am

wprathead wrote: »

Richard Dunne to score a Goal at the Euro's @ 6/1

Mon Ireland

That's a great bet. Will be getting on that. Dunne has 8 in 71 for Ireland. 1 in 9 for a CB is fairly decent and he is a massive threat from corners. if only it included scoring OGs too. :pac:

RVP top goalscorer and Holland to win is at 20s on Betfred. Probably the best I've seen in that market. Don't really fancy Holland that much, though.

batistuta9 · 18-05-2012 11:45am

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

That's a great bet. Will be getting on that. Dunne has 8 in 71 for Ireland. 1 in 9 for a CB is fairly decent and he is a massive threat from corners. if only it included scoring OGs too. :pac:

RVP top goalscorer and Holland to win is at 20s on Betfred. Probably the best I've seen in that market. Don't really fancy Holland that much, though.

van persie probably won't even be holland's top scorer never mind the tournaments (having said that though now he'll go on to be :pac:)

thebison · 18-05-2012 1:41pm

A few mates saying Huntelaar @18/1 to be top scorer with Paddy is fantastic value.

Is he not a winger?

yesno1234 · 18-05-2012 2:20pm

thebison wrote: »

A few mates saying Huntelaar @18/1 to be top scorer with Paddy is fantastic value.

Is he not a winger?

No, striker, always has been as far as I can remember.

inforfun · 18-05-2012 9:54pm

Being Dutch this pains me but Holland not to get out of the group @2,5 (bet365) is worth considering.
Sure midfield and attack are 2nd to none but the defence is a worry.
The successor of Van Bronckhorst, Pieters, want too impressive already and he will not be in the squad due to injury. Most likely left back will now be Schaars from Sporting Lisbon who is not a regular left back but defensive midfielder.
A fwd duo of Van Persie and Huntelaar is not going to happen imo so that will leave Huntelaar on the bench or Van Persie being played out of position, right or left wing most likely.

If that isnt bad enough, there is the group.
Denmark should be a win and then it is Portugal.
Dutch teams, club and nation, have a terrible record against Portuguese teams.
Portugal eliminated Holland in Euro 2004 and WC2006.

3rd match is vs Germany and they are not going to do Holland any favours if they can help it.

DB74 · 18-05-2012 10:39pm

inforfun wrote: »

A fwd duo of Van Persie and Huntelaar is not going to happen imo so that will leave Huntelaar on the bench or Van Persie being played out of position, right or left wing most likely.

Both Van Persie & Huntelaar started the last 4 qualifiers together. Why would this change in the finals. Huntelaar was injured for the previous 2 and if memory serves, Van Persie missed a couple of the others through injury as well.

inforfun · 19-05-2012 8:31am

I am not saying they will not play both for sure, just not together up front in a 4-4-2.
They might have played that way in a couple of games in the qualifiers (San Marino for example) but in those matches there was only 1 of van Bommel/|De Jong playing.
With the defence being the weakest part, Van Marwijk will more than likely come up with a similar team as during the WC, which was basically a 4-5-1 (4-2-3-1 if you like)

So Van Persie and Huntelaar will probably both in the team but not as a fwd duo.

Hope this makes sense.

stingerro · 19-05-2012 10:19am

Totally agree with Inforfun. Recently the biggest match for Holland was a friendly match at Wembley. RVP was a starter and did nothing (as aften, when he is playing for NT), Huntelaar replaced him and scored a quick goal.

Pudsy33 · 19-05-2012 10:22am

thebison wrote: »

A few mates saying Huntelaar @18/1 to be top scorer with Paddy is fantastic value.

Is he not a winger?

Definitely a stricker, no pace at all :pac:

madma · 19-05-2012 2:26pm

bookies are gonna clean up with the amount of those bets been placed.. top goalscorer will be someone random... whats the odds on robbie keane :pac::eek:

lester0084 · 22-05-2012 12:06pm

nikica jelavic is at 40/1 had a good end to the season worth a look.

inforfun · 22-05-2012 2:44pm

inforfun wrote: »

Being Dutch this pains me but Holland not to get out of the group @2,5 (bet365) is worth considering........3rd match is vs Germany and they are not going to do Holland any favours if they can help it.

Well, got that wrong.
1st it is Denamrk
Then Germany
Then Portugal

Makes it even worse imo. Holland probably needing a positive result vs Portugal and as said, record against Portugal is terrible for clubs and country.

Tigerandahalf · 22-05-2012 3:29pm

lester0084 wrote: »

nikica jelavic is at 40/1 had a good end to the season worth a look.

I cant find him on PP. They just have combination of top scorer and winner.

I have backed Croatia to win at 40/1 and a German Cro final at 66/1.
I dont see the Spanish winning this one. They have problems at the back and upfront and will be a tired team.
Liam Brady has backed Croatia. I wouldnt be big on them but they are good odds.
Croatia could well top our group and play weak Fra/Eng in 1/4s. Even if they come 2nd group Id fancy them to take Eng or Fr.

If you have a lot of cash R Keane is 5/2 with PP for top Irish scorer. Since he is taking penos seems good value. Who else will score?

The few bets are making the thing interesting before I head out there.

DB74 · 22-05-2012 3:40pm

Jelavic is 50/1 with Paddy Power

Tigerandahalf · 22-05-2012 3:53pm

Ive also backed Ire to make the semis. Might be a v long shot but the chance to get one over Eng or France would be great motivation.
Green jersey on making that bet! :-)

Where did you find Topscorer bets? I couldnt find it under Euro2012 betting. Is it near top or bottom. Im using Android app btw.

lamoss · 22-05-2012 7:36pm

Done a little bit of research on past Euros going back to1996.
Looking at under/0vers 2.5 goals,3 out of the last 4 tournaments their has been more unders than overs.
Looking at the BTS , 3 out of the last 4 tournaments , BTS Not to score has come in the most.
Drawn games are quiet low in the results.

I think I might stick to Bts/ not to score daily doubles, could be a bit of value in these bets

lester0084 · 22-05-2012 8:54pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

I cant find him on PP. They just have combination of top scorer and winner.

I have backed Croatia to win at 40/1 and a German Cro final at 66/1.
I dont see the Spanish winning this one. They have problems at the back and upfront and will be a tired team.
Liam Brady has backed Croatia. I wouldnt be big on them but they are good odds.
Croatia could well top our group and play weak Fra/Eng in 1/4s. Even if they come 2nd group Id fancy them to take Eng or Fr.

If you have a lot of cash R Keane is 5/2 with PP for top Irish scorer. Since he is taking penos seems good value. Who else will score?

The few bets are making the thing interesting before I head out there.

I got it on bet 365. looks like david villa aint going to the euros.

Nuri Sahin · 22-05-2012 9:03pm

Yeah Villa is definitely out now.

eh i dunno · 22-05-2012 9:25pm

Jelavic only has 2 goals in 18 games for Croatia and I dont even think he'll start. Great form for Everton though and would score goals if he plays

batistuta9 · 22-05-2012 9:26pm

what's BTS, both teams to score?

eh i dunno · 22-05-2012 9:26pm

batistuta9 wrote: »

what's BTS, both teams to score?

Yep

keith16 · 22-05-2012 9:57pm

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

With Rooney not playing for the first two games,what do you reckon the odds are on England not scoring in the first two games.

Very hard to know what to make of England....

They play France first and could well draw a blank...Sweden after that who they also traditionally struggle against.

They were very lucky to get out of their group in the world cup and were badly shown up against Germany, and have a slightly worse squad this time around IMO.

You would also expect them to beat Ukraine most of the time, but Ukraine being the hosts, you just don't know

Dietsquirt · 22-05-2012 10:07pm

Ibrahimivic (sweden 50-1) or jelavic (croatia 50-1) for cheeky top scorer. Could be worth a euro or 2. I'm putting money on france or england to win. The media has laid off the english team for the moment; almost like they are expecting them to fail. This could work in their favour and i reckon they'll score few against ukraine and sweden. I'm not going near Spain, they have great players but they play boring soccer. Fair enough, they won the world cup but they only scored 8 goals in doing so.

You can't right off the germans

power2012 · 22-05-2012 10:20pm

A few months ago I would have fancied Croatia however after the draw Im gone off them as I think Italy and Ireland will qualify. Yes I think Spain might have a hangover and from reading and listening to some spanish media sources all is not that well in the camp. They will miss Puyol and Villa and Torres is unpredictable.

I fancy France to do well and fill your boots on them to qualify from group at 8/15 and have a bet on them to win at around 11/1

A nice treble is Poland , Germany and France to qualify from groups treble at 5/2

MoscowFlyer · 22-05-2012 10:37pm

I always do a winner/top gs double in a major tournament and I think im gonna go with

spain/ronaldo @ 80s!

inforfun · 23-05-2012 7:33am

Top GS is so hard to pick in the Euro's.
Some guy scoring a hat trick in one of the the group games is always going to be in the top straight on.

Top scorers since 1980:

And now look at who scored hat tricks during these tournaments.

So the trick is,imo, to find the match/player, most likely to get a hat trick

I am looking at one of the forwards in group A and C.
Too bad Dick Advocaat, Russia's manager, is such a coward otherwise i would certainly give Pogrebnyak a go.

Huntelaar, if starting for Holland could be a outsider but for that to happen Holland would need to spank Denmark.

razor425 · 23-05-2012 2:23pm

inforfun wrote: »

So the trick is,imo, to find the match/player, most likely to get a hat trick

I am looking at one of the forwards in group A and C.
Too bad Dick Advocaat, Russia's manager, is such a coward otherwise i would certainly give Pogrebnyak a go.

Huntelaar, if starting for Holland could be a outsider but for that to happen Holland would need to spank Denmark.

I think you might be looking at the wrong groups here. I see group A as a very low scoring group with group C similar.

Taking Group A goals scored in qualifying:
Russia - 17 goals(8 v Andorra and 9 in other 8 games)
Greece - 14 goals(4 v Malta and 10 in other 8 games)
Czech Republic - 12 goals(4 v Lithuania, 4 v Lichtenstein and 4 in other 4 games)
Poland obviously didn't have to qualify.
So excluding games against bottom team(bottom 2 teams) each side only scored on average 1 goal a game. Thus can't really see any player getting a hat-trick in this group.

Bear in mind also that Russia conceded only 4 in qualifying, Greece 5 and Czech Republic 8.

Group C while I see a hat-trick more likely I don't like either as I can see both Ireland and Italy just trying to win 1-0 if possible. The stats do look a bit better however:
Spain -26 goals scored(10 v Lichtenstein, 5 v Lithuania and 11 in other 4 games)
Ireland - 15 goals scored(5 v Andorra and 10 in other 8 games)
Italy -20 goals scored(6 v Faroe's and 14 in other 8 games)
Croatia - 18 goals scored(6 v Malta and 12 in other 8 games)

Here excluding games against the bottom team Spain and Italy average almost 2 a game, Croatia average 1.5 and Ireland average 1.

Spain conceded 6, Croatia 7, Italy just 2 and Ireland 7.

Group B looks to be the group for me, finding the player however might be more difficult.
Germany scored 34(9 v Azerbaijan, 7 v Kazakhstan and 18 in other 6 games)
Holland scored 37(16 v San Marino and 21 in other 8 games)
Portugal scored 21(8 v Cyprus and 13 in other 6 games)
Denmark scored 15(6 v Cyprus and 9 in other 6 games)

Excluding games against the bottom side Germany and Holland average almost 3 a game, Portugal 2 a game and Denmark 1.5 a game.

Germany conceded 7, Holland 8, Portugal 12 and Denmark 6.

I can see each of the Germany, Holland and Portugal all scoring against one another as all have much better attackers than defenders. I won't comment on Denmark as I know nothing about them.

For completeness here is Group D also:
France scored 15(4 v Luxembourg and 11 in other 8 games)
England scored 17(7 v Bulgaria and 10 in other 6 games)
Sweden scored 21(11 v San Marino and 10 in other 8 games)
Ukraine didn't have to qualify

Thus England average almost 2 a game while Sweden and France average just over 1 a game.

France conceded 4, Sweden 11 and England 5.

So in summary if following inforuns tactic of finding someone who will score a hat-trick I suggest the most likely group is Group B.

alfalion · 23-05-2012 4:06pm

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

I always do a winner/top gs double in a major tournament and I think im gonna go with

spain/ronaldo @ 80s!

Ronaldo plays for portugal

seanhynes · 23-05-2012 4:19pm

it doesnt matter, u could combine Mario Gomez with Ireland winning the Euro's if u so wished.. He meant Spain win and Ronaldo top scorer there

IncognitoMan · 24-05-2012 12:08am

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

I always do a winner/top gs double in a major tournament and I think im gonna go with

spain/ronaldo @ 80s!

At this price its worth a shout. Stranger things have happened. Might stick a cheeky €2 on it

Dolph Starbeam · 24-05-2012 10:40am

Anyone who did the card betting throughout the year will probably know this better than me, some good odds to be had. Any opinions?

stingerro · 24-05-2012 11:33am

Pronca was a refereeing CL final, IMO there is no chance he will get Euro final as well.

DB74 · 24-05-2012 11:34am

Howard Webb got the Champions League final and the World Cup final in 2010

inforfun · 24-05-2012 1:15pm

Kuipers was in contention for the CL final according to Dutch media. But the fact he gave his opinion on tv about the 2 penalties in the Barca - Ac Milan match he did not get the CL final.

I dont think UEFA will say, now to make it up to you, we give you the Euro final. Quite the opposite even, vindictive bastards over there.
He already had the Super cup between Barca and Porto already at the start of the season

And then again, Holland will be playing that match so he is without a chance anyway

That is something else to watch out for, referees whose country go far in the Euro's will be sent home, no matter how good they are doing.

DB74 · 24-05-2012 1:30pm

inforfun wrote: »

That is something else to watch out for, referees whose country go far in the Euro's will be sent home, no matter how good they are doing.

I think they got rid of that rule a good few years ago now

In 2008 Herbert Fandel (Germany) refereed the Spain-vs-Italy semi-final and Germany were in the other semi-final

sligoface · 24-05-2012 2:30pm

i think czech repub at 7/5 to qualify from their group could be really good value, they could easily come in 2nd to russia, only have to beat out greece who have the lowest goals tally of any teams in the tournament and poland who qualified automatically. i think some people are making too much of the home crowd for poland, plus czech republic is right there and they'll have plenty of fans there as well. they have cech in goal and a half decent squad, played ireland well in the friendly. russia is their first match as well which could set them up nicely if russia aren't firing on all cylinders straight away.

Warper · 24-05-2012 9:28pm

Anyone know who is Russia's main striker aside from Arshavin. Was looking back and they vary between Pavlychenko and Kershakov. They have a handy group and i am looking to back their striker for top-scorer.

okidoki987 · 24-05-2012 9:47pm

Current Money Backs are

Bet Victor: If Spain win Max 50 :mad:
Boyles: If Beaten in a peno shoot out Max 100
Lads: If Holland win Max 100
PP: None yet
Bet365: None yet
Hills: None yet
Stan James: None Yet

Check all the T&C's & their prices when having a bet.

inforfun · 25-05-2012 7:54am

Warper wrote: »

Anyone know who is Russia's main striker aside from Arshavin. Was looking back and they vary between Pavlychenko and Kershakov. They have a handy group and i am looking to back their striker for top-scorer.

Pogrobnyak (sp)?

Was thinking about him, i think he was 50/1 to be top scorer.
But going through the line ups of russia's last matches, it appears to be Pavlyuchenko who is starting up front.
What keeps me from taking that bet is the Russia manager, Dick Advocaat.
Coward of the first order, will take strikers off for midfielders when 1 or 2 up.

Dcuguy89 · 25-05-2012 9:28pm

Just emailed this quality offer from Setantabet.com

Looked at the video and sure enough one of my mates (who never placed a bet in his life) is in the advert

It's taken from an apparent news report in Estonia last November when he was over for the Ireland v Estonia match

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGeOLTtkvcM

Anyways, nice offer aswell!!

Dcuguy89 · 25-05-2012 9:29pm

okidoki987 wrote: »

Current Money Backs are

Bet Victor: If Spain win Max 50 :mad:
Boyles: If Beaten in a peno shoot out Max 100
Lads: If Holland win Max 100
PP: None yet
Bet365: None yet
Hills: None yet
Stan James: None Yet

Check all the T&C's & their prices when having a bet.

I'll be going with whoever has money back on Ze Germans

Reckon it could be PP

Nuri Sahin · 27-05-2012 10:53am

For those looking at top goalscorer bets. Soldado won't be there. 3 strikers are being taken - Torres, Llorente, Negredo.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 27-05-2012 11:03am

Wow, genuinely shocked

roryc · 28-05-2012 2:28pm

yesno1234 wrote: »

Just got an email from Vic Chandler, money back if Spain win the Euro's up to a max bet of €/£50.

I've already got on this. Wouldn't normally bet with VC but can't turn down this offer.

£40 on Holland at 13/2
£4 on Russia at 25's
£6 on Italy at 14's

Was going to go with France but they aren't a great price with VC (10's), so will go elsewhere, hoping to get higher than 12's. Will be avoiding Germany in all bets, really don't think either them or Spain will do it.

Rastapitts wrote: »

anybody else think Kherzakov for top goalscorer is a good bet? Handy enough group for Russia

I'm trying to figure out what Russia's strikeforce will be. Kerzhakov and Pav are both 66's with Fred's, and Pog is 80's. Once I find what the most likely pairing is I'll have £10 on each. Arshavin has drifted to 100's so something tells me he's going to get overlooked. My main bet is on RVP, will be looking at £50 - £100 on his head at 10's. Zlatan top GS for Sweden at 3's is a good price too.

Radonman · 28-05-2012 7:49pm

Radonman wrote: »

http://www.paddypower.com/football/football-specials/euro-2012-specials-betting?ev_oc_grp_ids=503682

Anyone got an opinion on this market - some interesting prices there, Bent 5/1, Phil Jones 8/15, even Jarvis @ 25/1 (stranger things have happened). Its an interesting market - must do some research tomorrow on it

I eventually settled on Jagielka @ 9/4 but that not the real reason i'm posting here - Those feckers @ PP had it settled as a looser!! got on to live chat and got it sorted but no apology, nothing just were fowarding it to our settlements department. Goes to show you need to keep track on your open bets and not rely on the "my bets" tab

Tigerandahalf · 28-05-2012 10:41pm

Ive backed Thomas Muller for topscorer @ 25/1 with PP.
He played well in the last tournament and seems to be a big game player. Scored in the champ league final despite being out of the Bayern team. Should be fresh and could have a big tournament.

Headshot · 29-05-2012 12:34am

-Ade- wrote: »

For those looking at top goalscorer bets. Soldado won't be there. 3 strikers are being taken - Torres, Llorente, Negredo.

wow im absolutely shocked by that

What makes it worse bringing a striker who has been awful this season

I reckon Soldado must of done somthing to upset managing and possibly he's attitude problems were his downfall during the season

carbon nanotube · 29-05-2012 1:03am

if Torres is top scorer I will streak at his first home game next season at whoever he is playing with.

Warper · 29-05-2012 10:13am

Spain are 4-1 in PP shops today for anyone interested - max stake €200

thebison · 29-05-2012 10:29am

Warper wrote: »

Spain are 4-1 in PP shops today for anyone interested - max stake €200

**** me that is tempting

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