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pistolpetes11 · 20-12-2011 11:07PM

Could Liverpool bring this Case to The Court of Arbitration for Sport ?

If they feel so strongly could they go over the heads of the FA ?

CSF · 20-12-2011 11:08PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

PM him about it if you have an issue.

Thanks for the guidance mod.

Will I Amnt · 20-12-2011 11:08PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

5starpool wrote: »

A racism charge where neither the complainant nor the adjudicating body believe the person punished is a racist.

Strange alright.

It's not a bit strange,if it was let go and he did call him something racist just to wind him up it would give everyone licence to do it.

20-12-2011 11:08PM

Technique wrote: »

From a United forum:

Classy stuff alright

opr · 20-12-2011 11:08PM

kennethdalglish Kenneth Dalglish
Very disappointed with today's verdict. This is the time when @luis16suarez needs our full support. Let's not let him walk alone. KD

Opr

Blatter · 20-12-2011 11:09PM

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Yes I do, but I think Suarez perceived or alleged character are what has blew this case out of all proportion.

In fairness, that is just wild speculation.

Wait until the FA releases their detailed report, read it and then make a judgement.

citytillidie · 20-12-2011 11:09PM

#15 wrote: »

I was working on the assumption that LFC will appeal.

If they do appeal I say the FA will want it out of the way ASAP

CSF · 20-12-2011 11:10PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Classy stuff alright

But pretty true nonetheless. My opinion of the Liverpool fanbase has gone down dramatically over the course of this debacle.

noodler · 20-12-2011 11:10PM

K-9 wrote: »

It would be a bit silly calling Suarez racist when even Evra doesn't think he his.

Pretty logical to me.

I know silliness is pretty common though, especially with football fans.

Mr Alan wrote: »

Strange alright.

Jesus Christ. Delusional lads.

Bit like saying the victim of a violent act on a pitch saying the aggressor isn't a violent person by nature is somehow "strange".

doc_17 · 20-12-2011 11:10PM

I don't like Patrice Evra...and it's not because I'm a racist! He is the most horrible and annoying footballer...a perfect replacement for that lad who works for sky and used to play right back!

Mr Alan · 20-12-2011 11:10PM

Blatter wrote: »

You do understand that you can be guilty of a racial slur but not be an actual racist or be a member of the KKK?

Saying a black man is black is not a racial slur?

This case is all about context, which is why I'm so eager to read the full findings.

amiable · 20-12-2011 11:11PM

CSF wrote: »

But pretty true nonetheless. My opinion of the Liverpool fanbase has gone down dramatically over the course of this debacle.

All clubs have idiot fans.

Get over it

Turtyturd · 20-12-2011 11:11PM

CSF wrote: »

Thanks for the guidance mod.

Plain to see that I am not a mod...just helping out those who obviously need it, what with it being Christmas and all.

Technique · 20-12-2011 11:11PM

Originally Posted by kkkenny
Whoever is the guilty party - the person who said it or the accuser - [should] get their due punishment.

Originally Posted by kkkenny
kennethdalglish Kenneth Dalglish
Very disappointed with today's verdict. This is the time when @luis16suarez needs our full support. Let's not let him walk alone. KD

Make your mind up, Kenny.

CSF · 20-12-2011 11:12PM

amiable wrote: »

All clubs have idiot fans.

Get over it

Yeah but this many?

willmunny1990 · 20-12-2011 11:12PM

amiable wrote: »

All clubs have idiot fans.

Get over it

Some have more than others...;)

#15 · 20-12-2011 11:12PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Probably good to have all the discussion of this in one thread tbh.

If Evra's claim that Suarez abused him at least 10 times & it can be seen on camera is proven to be false, he should have the book thrown at him. If its proven to be true, same for Suarez.

I agree with Alan, the book should be thrown at Suarez.

tommyhaas · 20-12-2011 11:13PM

Until the findings of the panel are published there's very little that can be disputed. From the FA statement, its unclear whether Suarez has admitted anything. The papers claim he has admitted using the word negrito, while the statement from LFC seems to imply that the whole case has been based purely on the word of Patrice Evra, and that Suarez has admitted nothing

So there is two possible scenario's here, either Suarez has been convicted solely on the word of Evra, in which case its only Evra's word against Suarez's, or Suarez has admitted using the above phrase and so only the context and hence severity of the ban can be disputed. Until this is clarified, any argument regarding either the ban imposed or guilt of Luis Suarez are based only on hearsay and unconfirmed reports

Le King · 20-12-2011 11:13PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

5starpool wrote: »

A racism charge where neither the complainant nor the adjudicating body believe the person punished is a racist.

Strange alright.

Calling Suarez a racist is defamation. To do so Suarez could sue them for a shed load considering what he must be worth in sponsorships and such in Uruguay.

That would be a silly thing for the FA to do.

Suarez could easily argue heat of the moment or some other crude legal terminology. Fortunately common sense applies to a greater extent within the rules of soccer.

They are saying he is a racist through this ruling without directly calling him a racist. It's actually pretty simple if you take those red tints off.

20-12-2011 11:13PM

CSF wrote: »

But pretty true nonetheless. My opinion of the Liverpool fanbase has gone down dramatically over the course of this debacle.

You judge a whole fanbase on something some posters say?

Every club has idiot fans. The SF is evidence of this

CSF · 20-12-2011 11:13PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Plain to see that I am not a mod...just helping out those who obviously need it, what with it being Christmas and all.

Oh sorry, my bad, just a misinterpretation based on the fact that you were moderating the thread.

Usually when I see a man outside a club telling people they aren't allowed in, I think they are bouncers, but occasionally they may turn out to just be powerdriven madzers. Ah well, you live and learn.

Juniorhurler · 20-12-2011 11:14PM

Blatter wrote: »

In fairness, that is just wild speculation.

Wait until the FA releases their detailed report, read it and then make a judgement.

Fair comment, but wild speculation is generally the staple diet of internet forums. What somebody (or an organisation) puts in a report and what they privately think can be two totally different kettles of fish.

niallo27 · 20-12-2011 11:14PM

#15 wrote: »

I agree with Alan, the book should be thrown at Suarez.

We'll just wait for the video evidence first though.

opr · 20-12-2011 11:14PM

People talking about how Suarez will be driven out by all this are mad. The fact the club have shown such vehement support will only strenghten the bond between the club and him. He comes across as the sort of guy who takes things very much to heart and will not forget how the club handled this circus on his behalf.

Opr

Blatter · 20-12-2011 11:15PM

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Fair comment, but wild speculation is generally the staple diet of internet forums. What somebody (or an organisation) puts in a report and what they privately think can be two totally different kettles of fish.

True, I never fully take FA reports at face value but I'll wait until I read it before passing comment on it.

20-12-2011 11:15PM

Suarez

Today is a very difficult and painful day for both me and my family. Thanks for all the support, I'll keep working!

CSF · 20-12-2011 11:15PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

You judge a whole fanbase on something some posters say?

Every club has idiot fans. The SF is evidence of this

I make a partial judgement on a fanbase based on the opinions of most of the supporters whose opinions I have available to me. Upon seeing some more reasonable Liverpool supporters I will gladly change my mind and report back to you on this.

mormank · 20-12-2011 11:15PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

8 game ban?

Not enough for me but their ya go. The FA made an example of him and rightly so, such abuse should never be tolerated. If John Henry had any character or decency he would sack that degenerate.

"The FA made an example of him". Tbh the whole idea of making an example out of someone is ridiculous in itself. Equal and fair bans should be given out to each individual who commits an offence, not one super penalty for one person to try make everyone else then tow the line. Ridiculous.

argosy2006 · 20-12-2011 11:15PM

I think Suarez defense was decent, And FA could not prove other wise , yet still charged him,
Like that cop who shot the black guy 15 times, They were alone at time,
'Worst case of suicide he had ever seen'' was his defense
He got cleared '',

Ronan|Raven · 20-12-2011 11:15PM

CSF wrote: »

Yeah but this many?

Your own club has a fair whack

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