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  • #3242
    willmunny1990
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭willmunny1990


    niallo27 wrote: »
    The rest will do him good, he will come back stronger, liverpool fans will love him even more and oppositions fans will hate him more if possible. Everyone is a winner.

    Wouldn't be so sure of that mate. He has the tag of "racist" now. He will get an awful heckling of opposition fans etc...How will his team mates feel?

    I wouldn't be surprised if this incident unsettled him and he decides to jump ship to Spain or Italy where things like this aren't such an issue.

    Who knows how his head will be when he gets back, it could break him.


  • #3243
    th3 s1aught3r
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    So somebody remind me what Suarez actually said?... Or did he not say anything at all :confused:


  • #3244
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Technique wrote: »
    The same Maxi Pereira who is, in fact, white.

    And looks like a monkey


  • #3245
    Technique
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Technique


    Sappy404 wrote: »
    He admitted to using the inflammatory phrase once (not 10 times as Evra previously claimed) but we don't know what it is. As we understand it, it's a term of endearment, hence Suarez's admission to using it.

    There's a great post here about how it's used in South America.

    Again, we don't know the evidence for sure. Hopefully it's forthcoming and things will be clearer. The sentence would suggest there's more evidence against him. Liverpool's statement suggests there's not.

    Referring to someone's skin colour in the heat of the moment is not a term of endearment in the UK, Ireland and most other advanced nations. Please credit us with enough intelligence to know that it wasn't used as a term of endearment.


  • #3246
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,866 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Blatter wrote: »
    I'd be absolutely astonished if the FA backed down in anyway, shape of form from this.

    They didn't spend weeks investigating and have an extended verdict process for nothing. They will have explored any possible appeal that Liverpool could make and have made sure that everything is water tight.

    They won't be seen to be reducing the ban of a racism charge. Not a chance. If Liverpool are to be successful in eradicating or reducing the ban, they'll almost certainly have to go through another legal avenue IMO.

    A racism charge where neither the complainant nor the adjudicating body believe the person punished is a racist.


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  • #3247
    YouTookMyName
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭YouTookMyName


    Luis-Suarez-photographed-by-SuarezLabuschagne.JPEG

    What a big racist.


    Might as well give Luis the sandwich board from Die Hard 3 with this verdict, as that's how he's going to be seen by all other supporters.


  • #3248
    #15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭#15


    niallo27 wrote: »
    The rest will do him good, he will come back stronger, liverpool fans will love him even more and oppositions fans will hate him more if possible. Everyone is a winner.

    Absolutely. Utd might even win from this if Suarez is eligible for the City game and banned by the time the Spurs game comes around. A Suarez winning goal against City would be great. Everyone's a winner. Not sure about all Liverpool fans loving him even though.


  • #3249
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,402 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    CSF wrote: »
    Ah you got 2 mate, fair play to you. Next time tell them that you're actually thinking of becoming a Liverpool fan after the massive injustice that has been sent their way. You could get at least 20.

    PM him about it if you have an issue.


  • #3250
    Superbus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    Sure it probably suits Suarez, he gets his soon to be annual Winter Break - last year it was the biting thing, now this.


  • #3251
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Juniorhurler wrote: »
    Not interested in thanks. Just think its a ridiculous verdict given that Evra says that he believes that Suarez is not a racist. And a happy Christmas to yourself too CSF.

    You do understand that you can be guilty of a racial slur but not be an actual racist or be a member of the KKK?


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  • #3252
    DB21
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭DB21


    YouTookMyName wrote: »
    Luis-Suarez-photographed-by-SuarezLabuschagne.JPEG

    What a big racist.


    Might as well give Luis the sandwich board from Die Hard 3 with this verdict, as that's how he's going to be seen by all other supporters.

    Here come the strawmen


  • #3253
    pistolpetes11
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Kenneth Dalglish @kennethdalglish Close
    Very disappointed with today's verdict. This is the time when @luis16suarez needs our full support. Let's not let him walk alone. KD
    Retweeted by Simon Peach


  • #3254
    Ronan|Raven
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,152 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    #15 wrote: »
    Even more context for that word here.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=75475236&postcount=1033

    5'8" isnt all that small. Silly Suarez.


  • #3255
    Crazy Horse 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    Wouldn't be so sure of that mate. He has the tag of "racist" now. He will get an awful heckling of opposition fans etc...How will his team mates feel?

    I wouldn't be surprised if this incident unsettled him and he decides to jump ship to Spain or Italy where things like this aren't such an issue.

    Who knows how his head will be when he gets back, it could break him.

    Only a complete parcel would call him racist. Even Evra himself has said he's not racist.


  • #3256
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    Wouldn't be so sure of that mate. He has the tag of "racist" now. He will get an awful heckling of opposition fans etc...How will his team mates feel?

    I wouldn't be surprised if this incident unsettled him and he decides to jump ship to Spain or Italy where things like this aren't such an issue.

    Who knows how his head will be when he gets back, it could break him.

    No i think your wrong there matey


  • #3257
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Blatter wrote: »
    You do understand that you can be guilty of a racial slur but not be an actual racist or be a member of the KKK?

    Some people on here actually don't seem to grip that simple fact.


  • #3258
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    5starpool wrote: »
    A racism charge where neither the complainant nor the adjudicating body believe the person punished is a racist.

    Strange alright.


  • #3259
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,870 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    #15 wrote: »
    Absolutely. Utd might even win from this if Suarez is eligible for the City game and banned by the time the Spurs game comes around. A Suarez winning goal against City would be great. Everyone's a winner. Not sure about all Liverpool fans loving him even though.

    Ban starts in 14 days. So that rules him out of the City game as that is in 14 days, he will be back for the *United game if Liverpool win their cup game.

    *This will only happen if they do no ban him for giving the finger to Fulham fans too.

    ******



  • #3260
    Bodhisopha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    Way too harsh. What a joke.


  • #3261
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,452 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »
    Only a complete parcel would call him racist. Even Evra himself has said he's not racist.
    I don't think people rely on Evra to help them interpret the facts once they become fully clear. People will make their own judgement once the full facts have been made clear. Evra is not the guiding light on what determines a racist.


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  • #3262
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,349 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    YouTookMyName wrote: »
    Luis-Suarez-photographed-by-SuarezLabuschagne.JPEG

    What a big racist.

    Ahh, the Sepp Blatter move.


  • #3263
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    5starpool wrote: »
    A racism charge where neither the complainant nor the adjudicating body believe the person punished is a racist.

    I understand that, but if the ban were to be reduced it would still come across as undermining the campaign against racism to some.

    I'd be shocked if an appeal with the FA was successful tbh.

    And you can still be guilty of a racial slur without being an actual racist.


  • #3264
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    Wouldn't be so sure of that mate. He has the tag of "racist" now. He will get an awful heckling of opposition fans etc...How will his team mates feel?

    I wouldn't be surprised if this incident unsettled him and he decides to jump ship to Spain or Italy where things like this aren't such an issue.

    Who knows how his head will be when he gets back, it could break him.

    I'd say every point above is in your wish list .

    Such a great strong character Suarez is I can only see him returning stronger and more determined .

    I'm expecting this to be turned from a major negative into a massive positive and him having a long successful career at Liverpool .


  • #3265
    Crazy Horse 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Some horse**** coming out from the usual media clowns. "The FA have sent a strong signal out that racist comments won't be tolerated", yet they take no action against Evra for abusing Suarez in Spanish. :pac:

    Talk about double standards.


  • #3266
    bohsman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    Wouldn't be so sure of that mate. He has the tag of "racist" now. He will get an awful heckling of opposition fans etc...How will his team mates feel?

    I wouldn't be surprised if this incident unsettled him and he decides to jump ship to Spain or Italy where things like this aren't such an issue.

    Who knows how his head will be when he gets back, it could break him.

    Yea, definitely no racism issues in Spain, just ask Eto'o or Aragones.

    Very similar to the Aragones issue really, don't think either are racist but casual racist comments can't be tolerated.


  • #3267
    stumpypeeps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭stumpypeeps


    Blatter wrote: »
    I understand that, but if the ban were to be reduced it would still come across as undermining the campaign against racism to some.

    I'd be shocked if an appeal with the FA was successful tbh.

    I see this going to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.


  • #3268
    #15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭#15


    citytillidie wrote: »
    Ban starts in 14 days. So that rules him out of the City game as that is in 14 days, he will be back for the *United game if Liverpool win their cup game.

    *This will only happen if they do no ban him for giving the finger to Fulham fans too.

    I was working on the assumption that LFC will appeal.


  • #3269
    Juniorhurler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Juniorhurler


    Blatter wrote: »
    You do understand that you can be guilty of a racial slur but not be an actual racist or be a member of the KKK?

    Yes I do, but I think Suarez perceived or alleged character are what has blew this case out of all proportion.


  • #3270
    Technique
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Technique


    From a United forum:
    Liverpool supporters are never happier than when they've got a cause to rally behind and play the victim.

    They're probably all out there now plotting how to boycott Renault or something equally as pathetic.

    They'll have a banner at the next home game with Martin Luther King, Bob Marley and Malcolm X on it with Suarez on the end saying something like "let it be" or "Racism has many fathers, but mine's a negrito so chill out yeah?".

    :D


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  • #3271
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,659 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Man people have some fantastic imaginations in here.

    If my mother tongue is shaking the foundations of your state, it probably means you built your state on my land.

    EVENFLOW



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