Derek Mooney Show *MOD WARNING IN 1st POST*

TimmyTarmac wrote: »

Anyone else enjoying Mooney's Abba Special? - Mooney, Paul G and some other Eurovision lad over in Stockholm following in the footsteps of the great Benny, Bjorn, Anna and the other wan.
Apart from my Gaydar blowing up, it was a welcome relief after the pretentious w**kology of 'Other Voices' from some pub in New York, supported by Culture Ireland and other Quangos.

Radio One sure has variety in it's schedule today!

Great stuff, I agree. And Gaydar is still throbbing, so you'll be able to log in again after 30 minutes if you have mis-entered your password.


Hugo Brady Brown

Degringola wrote: »

Though I am still no wiser.

Hugo Brady Brown

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Dave McHugh me auld flower, heard you on the radio today and, objectively, stay the other side of the mic.

The Aston Martin and 'Mini Cewper' very high pitched delivery, especially when asking the question,very pronounced Dublin accent .

You would bust my balls with too much of that, just being honest.

Do yourself a favour , stick at the producing, sorry 'bout that man, just saying it as it is.

Nothing personal.

But does that comment not sound personal? Surely it can be nothing but personal? Are we now to insist on the extirpation of the variety of our own speech patterns in this country? Is the DART accent not a violation of the human rights of anyone who has to be on the receiveing end of it? Do we not find appealing the witty, musical, natural language found in the capital, the city where, according to the dramatist and advocate, Ulick O'Connor, the best English in the world was spoken? The city of Joyce and Wilde and Shaw and Stoker! It's part of what we are.

(Incidentally, I have been the beneficiary of a communication attempting to interpret the use of the term 'permanent hall monitor'. It may be a juvenile term applied to a respected figure in authority. I would wish my opinons to convince by their force, not by any sense of anyone feeling the need to be deferential to me personally.)


Hugo Brady Brown

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

No 'Ugo it does not.

Purely an objective observation on the subjects contribution to today's Mooney Show.

I'm sure the lad is an excellent person, but his place, with that diction and cadence is behind the mic.

'Ugo anyone who did not understand the term 'permanent hall monitor' is either a ree or taking the piss.

Unless of course you are as un -street wise as Aoife Kav. who on MI who did not understand the term 'Today bantam cock-tomorrow feather duster'. or something near that.

Tells one all one needs to know.

Thank you FlutterinBantam, but I find myself again perplexed, since I have no idea in the wide earthly world what a 'ree' is. Can you enlighten me, please? You may have no appreciation of how elusive a sound translation of such terms of art can prove to be, transparent as they may well appear to be to people who move in certain circles that do not intersect with mine.

On the matter of your earlier post itself, as you have enlarged upon it in the immediately preceding post to this, I would hold in rebuttal that it cannot in principle be for anyone, however well-informed and however sound their judgement, to assert with any credibility that their own view is an '[p]urely and objective observation' on any matter. These Boards are in fact a nexus of exchange of heightened subjectivity, not objectivity. And that is in the good moments.

We also, I feel, need to use state media so that every type of voice in the land is heard. We are no longer in the domain of the inter-war BBC talking down to people, simply on the basis of the timbre or tone of their voice, or because of their use of regional or other dialects. Happily, we have made some progress.

I appreciate that you yourself may have a special insight into the minds of farmyard fowls, but it is to make an extreme demand to expect such familiarity and ease of communication in others. In relation to the Aoife Kav. (who?) business, I think it is no cause for shame for anyone not to have heard or understood a particular idiomatic phrase, since it may be outside her experience, most especially if a person is young, inexperienced or the product of a sheltered upbringing. In a case such as this, it seems to me to involve a complex image that requires a person to understand what a bantam is (and urban dwellers might well walk past an escaped bantam on the roadside, taking it for an unusual pheasant), remembering immediately what a feather duster of old was, and imagining a feather duster composed of the corpse of a single entire bantam. If one has heard the fabricated novel but seemingly idiomatic phrase before, one has a headstart on someone who must generate a mental image from first principles.

So, I appeal for a little more consideration for our broadcasters and the difficult job they must do, simultaneously talking and controlling complex studio broadcasting equipment.



Hugo Brady Brown

'Ugo... you are some card!!

I did laugh at your reply and baulked somewhat at your defense of Aoife K. and her focking disastrous appreciation of what is going on.

Here is someone to whom people hang on their words, but in reality know fcuk all!! Surely she should have been able to deduce the meaning of what the lad said?

A frikken spa could figure out the meaning 'Ugo.


this is an ANCHOR on a hard news prog.


Cmon man ...give the licence payer a frikken break.:eek:

Slidey wrote: »

Hugo, might I be as forward as to suggest, that you lighten up a little and not take everything so literally.

You may find boards are rather more enjoyable experience if you do not feel the need to reply in such a rigid fashion.

As to the topic at hand, I am still of the opinion that the show is terrible. Were it not for the fact that the canteen radio's dial has been sabotaged so it will only receive Radio 1, I would never listen to the show.

Thank you Slidey, but I am afraid that some can never see a belt without hitting below it. But, as you suggest, I shall endeavour to tolerate the intolerable, endure the unendurable and avoid the unavoidable.

But seriously, isn't Derek really a fine young chap, every day the same happy, smiling self, affecting a form of gormlessness that can only be the product of long practice and effort? He is more like a dramatist of the radio than a compère, generating a quasi-real, quasi-fictional world out of the different turns that come in to see him, for the joyful consumption of the undemanding audience at that time of day, looking for something light and undisturbing. And who can ever forget him with Richard the swan man, and Éanna the naturist on those earnest programmes of long ago: how he must have suffered during his apprenticeship! (My researches once revealed that the odd name Éanna is a rendering in Irish of the adjective 'birdlike'. It's the kind of thing that can come up at a table-quiz.)



Byyyyyyyyyyeeeeeee,

Hugo Brady Brown

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

No probs 'Ugo

oooooh

Can one say that?


Hugo Brady Brown

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Jaysus ,I think so, once one doesn't identify anyone in particular.

Like ...make a statement like... like calling out some geezer 'coming the auld soldier'

:eek: Surely you know what that means:cool:

Indeed an' I do, though I know none personally. And for the 'geezer' I recall Spike Milligan's Wormwood Scrubs Tango.


Hugo Brady Brown

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

Indeed an' I do, though I know none personally. And for the 'geezer' I recall Spike Milligan's Wormwood Scrubs Tango.


Hugo Brady Brown

'Coming the old soldier' 'Ugo is what I was referring to.

I'll save you the trouble.


'trying to come across as somebody who tries to appear dimmer than they actually are'


good man, you don't fool the lads in here.;)

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

Why would Derek have to attend so many Civil Partnership ceremonies? Surely they could be scheduled for the mornings, in order not to clash with TX time? Why would he be required to go? Does he have some civil function to perform? Is he a part-time Registrar?

Yes, I know Myles is away; we can all feel it. But I know he will return, replenished and rejuvenated intellectually; we have endured something similar in the past, when Andy O'Mahoney decamped to Harvard for a few years.

It will, perhaps, lighten the atmosphere here when readers tumble to the conclusion that it's all but certain that Derek, too, will, when he's older, also pursue a doctoral course in Yale or somewhere like that.

The idea of provoking an innocent broadcaster under the stress of live radio conditions seems somewhat juvenile, I think we will all agree. I don't understand, though, why Derek would get hot under the collar. It occurs to me that since I have never heard him in such a state, it may be simply a matter of perception on the part of a few listeners.

And what, by the way, means the reference to Phillip?

Hugo Brady Brown

Paddy Gallagher!!!

The geezer with the bottle-end glasses?

WTF

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Hugo, I take it you listened to The Pat Kenny Show when Myles Dungan was filling in for him during the summer? In my opinion, the man is an insufferable bore and full of his own self-importance. I tolerated him on Rattlebag but I far preferred the musings of Mike Murphy on its previous incarnation as The Arts Show. Mike Murphy was an avuncular figure who made the arts more accessible to a wider appreciative audience, and someone who didn't talk down to people. I always felt that Dungan's presentation style on Rattlebag was somewhat akin to being sat in a lecture theatre - and not in a good way.

What Harry says interests me, and I cannot and would not try to dissuade a person from holding an opinion based their own inwardly arising feelings about a broadcaster. We cannot expect to like everyone, and so, in the rather intense experience of listening to a broadcaster, if someone is not to our taste, we may find them hard to bear. Objectively there may be nothing wrong with the broadcaster; there may be simply a mismatch with our own taste or temperament.

I agree about Mike Murphy on the Arts programme. It was a considerable surprise to me that he was such a good arts journalist and presenter; I had, as had everyone else in the land, thought that his morning show in the 1980's was really first-class use of the medium, incorporating music, running gags, news and his own brand of both absurdist and commonsensical humour. (In this he was like a forerunner of the succès d'estime that is Marty Whelan's show Marty in the Morning on RTE Lyric FM.) On his arts show he showed an unexpected side, and that most particularly, in my view, in his ability to deal in an audio medium with visual art. His unwillingness to be taken in by arrant nonsense from artists was one of the most refreshing aspects of that programme. That and, as Harry says, his ability to connect with the audience. Who would have expected 45 minutes of afternoon arts programming to be such a success, in the day when time-shifting of radio listening was not a practical proposition for listeners.

We must agree to disagree in relation to Myles; I will continue to see him as that rare beast, the intellectual radio presenter who can bring any subject down to earth. (I didn't listen to the Pat Kenny Show in the summer, so I can't comment on that; at the best of times, even when Pat himself is presenting, I find it one of the least alluring programmes on RTE 1. I accept that the fault is probably mine.)




Hugo Brady Brown

Wertz wrote: »

A degree in modern history of the Eurovision song contest perhaps or a masters in the works of Rodgers and Hammerstein?

And what, as all reasonable people will agree, could be wrong with that? Doctoral theses have been written about Coronation Street, The Riordans, the music of John Barry, the work of Bobby Darin, the list goes ever on - all very fine, and contributing in their small way to the joy & gaiety of the world.


Hugo Brady Brown