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RTE 2 Broadcasting in HD now

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    They could broadcast right in front of me still would,nt watch there crap..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    patwicklow wrote: »
    They could broadcast right in front of me still would,nt watch there crap..

    Is that because it was Football (soccer) or the teams that were playing or just because it was RTÉ. On either count I figure it was worth watching.

    & rock on ICA Bootcamp & good luck to MS Ireland in the final:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,747 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    RTÉ has confirmed that the Rugby World Cup will be broadcast in HD on RTÉ Two HD on SAORVIEW
    RTÉ to broadcast over 130 hours of Rugby World Cup Coverage
    Wednesday, 17 August 2011

    RTÉ Sport today (Wednesday, 17 August) announced details of its 2011 Rugby World Cup campaign, which will include all of Ireland's games broadcast live from New Zealand as part of an astounding 130 hours of rugby coverage across television, radio and online.

    At the launch today, World Cup winner Ben Kay, Ireland legend Shane Horgan and Leinster coach Joe Schmidt, were announced as part of RTÉ's unrivalled team of rugby panellists for the 2011 World Cup. Also joining the team this autumn for the first time will be former Leinster defence coach and Ireland international Kurt McQuilkin, who will be co-commentating for radio from his native New Zealand.

    Ryle Nugent, RTÉ Group Head of Sport, said: "RTÉ is committed to bringing the best of international and national sporting events to the Irish public free-to-air. Fans can look forward to following the Irish team's progression every step of the way on all of RTÉ's platforms with the unique perspective and expert analysis that our panel bring, which is unrivalled by any other broadcaster. We look forward to sharing what is set to be a momentous sporting occasion with the Irish public".
    On securing the broadcast rights Mike Miller, Rugby World Cup Limited (RWCL) Managing Director paid tribute to RTÉ's quality coverage: "RWCL is delighted to be extending its association with RTÉ Sport to broadcast Rugby World Cup 2011 throughout Ireland. RTÉ is recognized as a leading broadcaster of quality sports coverage and a true champion of Rugby in Ireland and we are looking forward to working in partnership with RTÉ to further the promotion of Rugby World Cup."

    RTÉ Television

    RTÉ Television will broadcast all the top games with 13 key matches live and free-to-air, including all of Ireland's Pool matches, the Final, the Bronze Final, both semi-finals, all four quarter-finals and the opening match.

    For the first time ever coverage of the Rugby World Cup will be broadcast in HD in Ireland as RTÉ Television's live coverage of 13 key games is also available on RTÉ Two HD on SAORVIEW.

    In addition to the live games RTÉ Television will broadcast free-to-air highlights coverage of every game in the tournament shown exclusively in primetime (6pm - 9pm) on RTÉ Two each match day.

    RTÉ's unrivalled team of rugby presenters, analysts and commentators will be on hand throughout the tournament with Ben Kay, Shane Horgan and Joe Schmidt joining regulars George Hook, Brent Pope, Conor O'Shea, Victor Costello and Frankie Sheahan for their expert analysis of all the action. Tom McGurk and Daire O'Brien will anchor proceedings, while Hugh Cahill, Ryle Nugent, Donal Lenihan, George Hamilton, Tony Ward, Ralph Keyes and Kurt McQuilkin will provide the commentary.

    RTÉ.ie/Sport

    RTÉ.ie's dedicated Rugby World Cup 2011 section will provide live video and audio as well as comprehensive news, highlights, analysis, picture galleries and interactive text commentary.

    Focusing primarily on Declan Kidney's Ireland team, RTÉ.ie will provide the very latest news from the tournament while during matches the popular text commentaries will now include live in-match stats and analysis alongside minute-by-minute updates of the action as it unfolds. Users will also be able to offer their views and comments throughout the tournament.

    All text content will be available online at RTÉ.ie as well as on mobile via RTÉ 's News Now app on iPhone/iPad and Android devices, as well as on m.rte.ie/sport.

    RTÉ.ie's RWC 2011 section will also include the usual insights from top pundits including George Hook, Brent Pope and Conor O'Shea, along with a special series of articles by former Leinster defence coach and Ireland international Kurt McQuilkin. There will also be a RWC jumbo, colour, wall chart free with the RTÉ Guide on 29 August, which will help fans track how the thrilling tournament unfolds

    RTÉ Radio

    RTÉ Radio's resident rugby commentator Michael Corcoran will be bringing you complete coverage of all of Ireland's Rugby World Cup matches live from New Zealand. We will also be punctuating RTÉ Radio's usual schedule with exclusive news, interviews and updates throughout the RWC, brought to you by the country's top commentators and sports broadcasters.

    Michael Corcoran first toured with the Irish rugby team in 2000, when they travelled to Argentina, USA and Canada. He has completed two British and Irish Lions tours, to Australia in 2001 and to New Zealand in 2005.


    RTÉ Sport's Rugby World Cup coverage across television, radio and online is sponsored by O2.

    http://www.rte.ie/about/pressreleases/2011/0817/170811rugbyworldcup.html
    RTÉ to broadcast 130 hours of Rugby World Cup
    Wednesday 17 August 2011

    RTÉ Sport have announced details of its 2011 Rugby World Cup campaign - which will include all of Ireland's games broadcast live from New Zealand as part of an astounding 130 hours of rugby coverage across television, radio and online.

    At the launch today, RTÉ Group Head of Sport Ryle Nugent said: "Fans can look forward to following the Irish team's progression every step of the way on all of RTÉ's platforms."

    RTÉ Television will broadcast all the top games with 13 key matches live and free-to-air, including all of Ireland's Pool matches, the Final, the Bronze Final, both semi-finals, all four quarter-finals and the opening match.

    For the first time ever coverage of the Rugby World Cup will be broadcast in HD in Ireland as RTÉ Television's live coverage of 13 key games is also available on RTÉ Two HD on SAORVIEW.

    However, the coverage doesn't stop there as RTÉ Radio's resident rugby commentator Michael Corcoran will be bringing you complete coverage of all of Ireland's Rugby World Cup matches live from New Zealand - plus exclusive news and interviews.

    All text content will be available online at RTÉ.ie as well as on mobile via RTÉ's News Now app on iPhone/iPad and Android devices, as well as on m.rte.ie/sport.

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/2011/0817/worldcup.html
    RTÉ unveil a team of familiar and fresh faces
    JOHN O'SULLIVAN

    Thu, Aug 18, 2011

    ...

    The national broadcaster will provide 130 hours of rugby coverage across television, radio and online.

    The station will screen 13 matches live and free-to-air, including all of Ireland’s pool matches, the final, the bronze final, both semi-finals, all four quarter-finals and the opening match.

    For the first time coverage of the tournament will be broadcast in HD in Ireland, available on Saorview.

    In addition to the live games highlights coverage of every game in the tournament will be shown in primetime (6pm–9pm) on RTÉ Two each match day.

    Joining the new faces will be regulars George Hook, Brent Pope, Conor O’Shea, Victor Costello and Frankie Sheahan. Tom McGurk and Daire O’Brien will anchor proceedings, while Hugh Cahill, Ryle Nugent, Donal Lenihan, George Hamilton, Tony Ward, Ralph Keyes and McQuilkin will provide the commentary.

    RTÉ Radio commentator Michael Corcoran will provide coverage of all of Ireland’s games as well as regular news updates.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0818/1224302638523.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    mike65 wrote: »
    That was not HD.

    It was HD but the picture quality was pretty poor. Problem with the source material perhaps.
    patwicklow wrote: »
    They could broadcast right in front of me still would,nt watch there crap..

    Nice contribution. Do keep it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭The Dark Knight


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    ......
    Nice contribution. Do keep it up.

    +1


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭desaparecidos


    I have a recording of last seasons Champions League final from ITV1 HD which I came across today. I have to say the quality, clarity and motion surpass any of RTE's HD events so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    I have a recording of last seasons Champions League final from ITV1 HD which I came across today. I have to say the quality, clarity and motion surpass any of RTE's HD events so far.

    If the ITV HD transmission you've recorded was from satellite the RTÉ Two HD on DTT cannot compete. Bitrate available to ITV on satellite is higher than that available to RTÉ on DTT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Is the europa league game in hd tonight?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Nope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    My saorview signal disappeared today, after working perfectly fine for the last couple of months. Anybody got the same problem? I'm in Letterkenny.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭Kensington


    My saorview signal disappeared today, after working perfectly fine for the last couple of months. Anybody got the same problem? I'm in Letterkenny.
    Transmitter works up that way:
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    [Link]


  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Pat Gleeson


    +1

    +2


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    If the ITV HD transmission you've recorded was from satellite the RTÉ Two HD on DTT cannot compete. Bitrate available to ITV on satellite is higher than that available to RTÉ on DTT.

    true, and i'm sure someone will correct me if i am wrong, but the itv hd signal on sat is the lowest of the bitrates used by itv, bbc and sky. bbc bitrate for the hd channels on satellite was lowered to lessen the difference between freeview and freesat quality for the same channels, but the bitrate is still above what itv are using, and so it follows above what rte are using.

    kind of a chicken and egg question then, do you limit your quality due to an acceptable bandwidth, or fix your bandwidth to an acceptable quality. i understand the limitations on the muxes. but i must have a look and see what bitrate bbc hd channels are running at on freeview


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Not all ITV1 HD's are 1920*1080i so unless you know which one the recording came from you cannot compare in any way.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    neither is rte's, it's 1440 *1080, so if they aere all 1920 you could argue a direct comparision is reduandant

    it would be pretty easy to tell the resolution of the recording if it was done on a pc.

    according to the chart at the following link though, tough as it is to see, it would appear the itv hd channel on freeview is somewhere around the 8MB/sec though, which according to the post by sean here
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73871854&postcount=394

    is similar to rte. if the graph taken from the first link is 1920*1080, that's even more impressive

    i'd expect bitrate to have a more important influence on motion and perhaps quality than resolution would anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    mossym wrote: »
    neither is rte's, it's 1440 *1080, so if they aere all 1920 you could argue a direct comparision is reduandant

    I know, I was pointing out that not all ITV's are even the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    Notice tonight when RTÉ Two went from sports promo to the start of The Butcher Boy, the DOG moved slightly & drifted from whatever quality setting it was on to a less sharper DOG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,747 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Ireland v France in HD on RTÉ2.

    The "Available in HD on Saorview" info banner at the top of the screen made a briefer appearence on this occasion but should have been done before the match started.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    Saw the tail end of the Wales on BBC One HD earlier, in camparison the RTÉ HD picture seems to be clearer & sharper today. Maybe this was due to the fact that the Wales game was played with the stadium roof closed & lit by artifical light only, whereas the game in the Aviva is under natural light complimented by floodlights.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭ShaneOC


    The Cush wrote: »
    Ireland v France in HD on RTÉ2.

    The "Available in HD on Saorview" info banner at the top of the screen made a briefer appearence on this occasion but should have been done before the match started.

    The "Available in HD on Saorview" was also shown during the build up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,747 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    ShaneOC wrote: »
    The "Available in HD on Saorview" was also shown during the build up.

    Thanks for that Shane, missed some of the build up to the match.

    In that case they didn't need to do it again, enough clutter on screen already.


  • Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Is the pre match and half time analysis form the studios broadcast in hd today? It looks like it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭An Tarbh


    Saw the tail end of the Wales on BBC One HD earlier, in camparison the RTÉ HD picture seems to be clearer & sharper today. Maybe this was due to the fact that the Wales game was played with the stadium roof closed & lit by artifical light only, whereas the game in the Aviva is under natural light complimented by floodlights.

    the game on BBC 1 was probably only upscaled, the BBC didn't show the Ireland France game on BBC HD even though the feed would have been available from RTÉ. The Scotland Ireland game also wasn't shown in HD by the BBC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,747 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Is the pre match and half time analysis form the studios broadcast in hd today? It looks like it is.

    Whenever the analysis is done on site it's in HD, GAA from Croke Park, Rugby from the Lansdowne Road etc.

    If it's from the RTÉ studio at Donnybrook it's upscaled.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,989 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    One of the cameras at Landowne Road appears to give faulty colours to the Irish shirts - it did not affect the French ones though. They were very grey, rather than green, particularly noticed in close up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭homer911


    The quality of the picture today on RTE 2 HD looked great - switching to BBC2 showed just how bad SD is!


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭seanp_25


    homer911 wrote: »
    The quality of the picture today on RTE 2 HD looked great - switching to BBC2 showed just how bad SD is!

    True. Too bad it wasn't on BBC HD for comparison.

    It was shown in HD in France.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭An Tarbh


    you'll get the chance on Wednesday to compare the picture quality with both ITV and RTÉ showing the Udinese Arsenal match in HD.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭seanp_25


    An Tarbh wrote: »
    you'll get the chance on Wednesday to compare the picture quality with both ITV and RTÉ showing the Udinese Arsenal match in HD.

    Yes, although we saw last week that home-produced stuff on RTE HD like the rugby seems to be better quality than imported HD stuff anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭An Tarbh


    seanp_25 wrote: »
    Yes, although we saw last week that home-produced stuff on RTE HD like the rugby seems to be better quality than imported HD stuff anyway.

    assuming the Slovakia game is in HD on RTÉ you'll get the chance to compare with Sky then.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    How can you compare HD via DTT to HD via satellite?

    Satellite will win every time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,747 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    No posts today regarding the Mayo v Kerry and Tipp v Roscommon semi-finals in HD.

    Didn't see any glitches, liked the HD slo-mo shots. HD finally settling in on Saorview.

    Next up Udinese v Arsenal on Wed and Barcelona v Porto on Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    My son had a friend of his round today during the Kerry game, he was dutifully impressed by the PQ on RTÉ Two HD on our Panny 42" D25:) Looking forward to seeing the Gunners in HD failing to meet my expectations once again:(


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    My son had a friend of his round today during the Kerry game, he was dutifully impressed by the PQ on RTÉ Two HD on our Panny 42" D25:) Looking forward to seeing the Gunners in HD failing to meet my expectations once again:(

    you're not the kerry man who was on the phone in on today fm on saturday discussing arsenal are you? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    mossym wrote: »
    you're not the kerry man who was on the phone in on today fm on saturday discussing arsenal are you? :)

    God no. I wouldn't have the neck to go on air to try & defend their achievements or lack thereof over the past few years:mad::(:o


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭The Dark Knight


    An Tarbh wrote: »
    you'll get the chance on Wednesday to compare the picture quality with both ITV and RTÉ showing the Udinese Arsenal match in HD.
    ....or not!! ITV-HD are broadcasting in upscaled HD.... RTE's picture is definitely better!!, and looks to be fullHD (although still not as good as the home OB broadcasts!!
    Wonder why ITV are not showing full HD???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Full HD?

    Still looks like HD 0.75 to me. Not as crisp as the GAA/rugby games shown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭The Dark Knight


    mike65 wrote: »
    Full HD?

    Still looks like HD 0.75 to me. Not as crisp as the GAA/rugby games shown.

    Is that not what I just said!!! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    No no I mean RTE2 HD looks like 0.75 (not able to watch ITV1 HD)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Wonder what happened at ITV. STV HD was upscaling also.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭The Dark Knight


    mike65 wrote: »
    No no I mean RTE2 HD looks like 0.75 (not able to watch ITV1 HD)
    I Understand..... but I also ment that the HD quality was not as good as the home broadcasts of Rugby and GAA.
    ......although still not as good as the home OB broadcasts!!.....
    Nevertheless RTE were broadcasting in Native HD and not upscaled like ITV. Think we should give them a bit of credit now that the glitches seem to have been sorted.

    Looking forward to the Rugby World Cup in HD on RTE2..... I know ITV1-HD will probably have a slightly (..and relatively un-importantant) better picture, but I'll take RTE's Rugby coverage antime over ITV's!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Wonder what happened at ITV. STV HD was upscaling also.

    Wonder what the source feed was ? Apparently a lot of source is still shot @ 1440.

    In broadcast resolution RTE 2HD is 1440x1080.

    ITV HD Granada was 1920x1080 but probably subject to interpolation filtering, hence the softening.

    Havent the Beeb/ITV went back to 1440 on Freeview HD.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    ITV was SD.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    perhaps itv didn't want to pay for a HD feed as it was only a qualifier? if an english team weren't involved i doubt they'd even have shown it, so maybe it's part of their cost saving efforts?


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭The Dark Knight


    mossym wrote: »
    perhaps itv didn't want to pay for a HD feed as it was only a qualifier? if an english team weren't involved i doubt they'd even have shown it, so maybe it's part of their cost saving efforts?

    Ofcourse they would have shown the Game if it wasn't an English team involved. But it would have been over on ITV4 and ITV4HD like last weeks Bayern Munich game!!!
    These games are part of the overall Champions League contract, so I don't think price would come into it!!!!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    Ofcourse they would have shown the Game if it wasn't an English team involved. But it would have been over on ITV4 and ITV4HD like last weeks Bayern Munich game!!!
    These games are part of the overall Champions League contract, so I don't think price would come into it!!!!

    good point, was the Bayern match in HD on ITV4HD or just upscaled though?


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭The Dark Knight


    mossym wrote: »
    good point, was the Bayern match in HD on ITV4HD or just upscaled though?
    Don't know...... you need an UK HD subscription to pick up ITV4-HD.... maybe someone here has one and can answer the Q???

    One addation bit of info on last night game. The EPG said "(Upscaled HD)" on ITV1-HD.....so it was planned and not a last minute technical issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    According to people over on DS it was shown upscaled because ITV didn't have a HD studio for the evening. Al Jazeera had it booked. LOL if true.


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭The Dark Knight


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    According to people over on DS it was shown upscaled because ITV didn't have a HD studio for the evening. Al Jazeera had it booked. LOL if true.
    Seems a lame excuse to me..... Could they not have done what RTE do.... Studio in Upscaled HD and match in Narive HD.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Sky do the same. If the studio isn't HD then the game isn't. Must be a valid reason for it.


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