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  • Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Read the small print - which in effect says that the product is not proven to work. :rolleyes:

    Whoever called the company "Nutrabollix" clearly never lived in Dublin. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Mebbel


    *bump*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    Read the small print - which in effect says that the product is not proven to work. :rolleyes:

    Whoever called the company "Nutrabollix" clearly never lived in Dublin. :D

    I doubt there would be any misunderstanding if you said you were having a 'bolics shake' after your workout


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Gator


    Its n the shelves in holland and barret, has this been 'legalised' here again?

    Kept my trap shut when I bought it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    I heard it was illegal 'cos they had to use minced puppies to make it.

    sad-puppy.JPG


    *probably legal OTC in England and the order processing is being carried out there in some kind of cost cutting measure now.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    The stuff is overpriced junk anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Gator wrote: »
    Its n the shelves in holland and barret, has this been 'legalised' here again?

    Kept my trap shut when I bought it :)

    New formula I believe. I think its called NO-xplode 2.0 now.

    Personally I've no interest in pre-workouts any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Ya its in h&b in the UK at the moment. Think it was priced at £44 for 750g or maybe it was a kg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    I'd say rather than "re-legalising" it they simply changed the active ingredient, most likely to a less effective compound.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    HemoRage is pretty good...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭pachey100


    Kev M wrote: »
    HemoRage is pretty good...

    Thank you. At last someone who can get over the name without sounding like 15 year olds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭retenzo12


    Anyone else have any input on this? Thks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Duffman'05


    Mellor wrote: »
    As mentioned its a myth, its a misapplication of two different studies.
    Using a real world example highlights how silly it is, a steak easily has 90gs of protein. there is no way the body on'y absorbs less than half of this

    Can you please elaborate on why this is a myth? I would love to have this cleared up in my head. From what I learned in school excess protein is converted to urea which is literally pissed out and wasted and I have never heard anything more on it since.

    So is there actually a limit to how much protein the liver can break down in one go? Is it something that can be built up over time with consistent and steady increases of protein in your diet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Saviola


    Cant say for definite but i cant imagine taking 3 servings in the morning would equate to spreading them equally throughout the day. Would taking 3 servings at once not feel like a brick in your stomach anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,639 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    Why ask a question if you don't want an answer?
    Knock yourself out OP- you don't want any advice from some very knowledgeable people above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Parsley


    Duffman'05 wrote: »
    Can you please elaborate on why this is a myth? I would love to have this cleared up in my head. From what I learned in school excess protein is converted to urea which is literally pissed out and wasted and I have never heard anything more on it since.

    So is there actually a limit to how much protein the liver can break down in one go? Is it something that can be built up over time with consistent and steady increases of protein in your diet?

    1. you don't piss out protein. ever.

    2. your liver doesn't break it down. far as i know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Duffman'05


    Parsley wrote: »
    1. you don't piss out protein. ever.

    2. your liver doesn't break it down. far as i know.

    I didn't mean pissing out protein directly. I meant that afaik protein gets broken down into amino acids in the liver and the excess amino acids that the liver (or whatever organ it is) can't handle get converted to urea, which is what's pissed out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    Kev M wrote: »
    HemoRage is pretty good...
    What are the main effective ingredients? I've never heard of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭COH


    Owen_S wrote: »
    What are the main effective ingredients? I've never heard of it.

    Caffeine, semtex... and chuck norris's sperm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    It was never illegal, just technically a "prescribed" substance. It has been legalized since the health board realised PWO's wont kill you. I think the original reason it was banned was because some gobshíte overdosed on it and left himself in a bad way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    Kev M wrote: »
    HemoRage is pretty good...

    Made by a different company, Nutrex. Hemorush looks fairly normal, I'd go with White Flood as from reviews it sounds more potent and it's better value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    It's amazing that people haven't yet learned what is actually in a pre-workout supplement. Will Brinks youtube channel might help...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    I remember hearing something about it containing too much of a water soluble vitamin, yes water soluble, but our government...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,572 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    pachey100 wrote: »
    Thank you. At last someone who can get over the name without sounding like 15 year olds.
    It's a different product to the one you posted about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,572 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Duffman'05 wrote: »
    I didn't mean pissing out protein directly. I meant that afaik protein gets broken down into amino acids in the liver and the excess amino acids that the liver (or whatever organ it is) can't handle get converted to urea, which is what's pissed out.
    Excess protein, means more than the bodys daily need. Obviously this is more than 30g.
    I do believe that excessive protein causes an increase in urea, but how much this is I don't know. All/Most/Some of it will be converted to glucose.

    The body doesn't process any amount of protein in one go. It's can't even process 30g in one go. Protein digests slowly, whey is about 10g an hour. Basically, you body is almost constantly digesting food and converting protein, it makes sense to me to have a constant supply. Having more than 30g won't be wasted, it will just go to the back of the queue.

    The 30g idea came from a study that monitored the rate of protein absorption. 30g whey takes 3 hours. So this lead to the believe that 30g is the max and that you must eat every 3 hours to stay anabolic.

    Another study showed that protein aborption rates increase as you eat more, but the effect stops at around 30g. this doesn't mean that 30 is the max, it just means you don't process 40, or 60 any faster. Basically, 30g at breakfast then 30g 3 hours later is the same as 60g at 6 hour intervals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭xgtdec


    have you tried a "smartshaker"?, they have compartments for storing your protein so your still only bring one beaker with you, like today in mine i have my animal nitro in the main compartment, 2 servings of storm in the next and 1 of whey in the other!!

    on the casein front i take casein at 10am and 4pm and before bed, in the morning and after training i take whey....ive no logic..its just the way i do it...id say 3 scoops of casein could leave ya feeling very very bloated for the morning!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Mebbel


    *Bump*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭pachey100


    Mellor wrote: »
    It's a different product to the one you posted about

    I am aware of that thanks I was saying thank you for giving a sensible answer and not speculating if the product works or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭The Guvnor


    Gator wrote: »
    Its n the shelves in holland and barret, has this been 'legalised' here again?

    Kept my trap shut when I bought it :)


    I doubt the staff are aware of what is legal and what is not legal.

    I doubt they were going to do you for buying a food supplement OTC but then again it does say EXPLODE... -

    Next time why not ask for some C4 at the same time - then they will throw the book at you!:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod




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