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Dublin Marathon 2011 Novices Mentored Thread

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    #422
    elvis jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,197 ✭✭✭elvis jones


    Half marathon yesterday and got over the line in 2:06, that was a PB by 12 mins.

    The last 4km were hard but i had only done limited running so far this yr but my time was better even with the bad heat.

    I have another half in Portlaoise on the Aug bank holiday Monday and hope to get closer again to my season goal of sub 2hr.

    Running will be limited this week with a tri on sat but then i have 5 weeks of hard training for my 1st Olympic tri which will help me with my general fitness and i intend to be at 15 mile LSR by then !


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    #423
    cr17
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭cr17


    Week 1 of Intermediate 1 comleted last night.
    Swim,3,5,3,Rest,8,5.
    Was in pool at lunchtime stretching it out. Good week, I,ll see how I go on this plan, not going to be stupid though, if it starts becoming too much, i,ll go back to novice.
    Good work everyone.


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    #424
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles/km This Week|Comments
    RayCun|4|31.3km|two club sessions, two recovery runs|
    meijin|4|28.5km||
    Vagga|3|24 Miles|Being careful with an injury limited me to 3 runs|
    shels4ever|6|54|Mostly easy runs, 1 long run and one steady run|
    Bally8|4|20.85 miles|This is my second week of Novice 2. Got an easy run, a PMP, a easy run with strides and a 9 mile lsr in. Out on the kayaks twce this week too. Happy days!|
    Nules10|4|21.52 miles|On week 5|
    Duckee|4|24.4km|week 1 down. 1 long run, 3 easy. Trying to learn how to run slow on mid-week runs|
    liamog|3|27.64km|Week 1 finished, a 5km BHAA Race and then two more runs to round it off|
    Concerned2|5|27.17 miles|Missed 1 planned session, legs currently have loads of aches|
    cr17|5|24 miles||


    that right?


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    #425
    cr17
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭cr17


    Right... Thanks Raycun, tried editing the table but failed.


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    #426
    red face dave
    Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭red face dave


    Well lads, I have made up my mind. I am going to do the marathon. I'm currently training for the 15 mile race in Killarney which is in two weeks once that is out of the way I am going to start the hard road ahead. Always wanted to do one so this is it. Any suggestion for which plan would be best to follow. I don't think I am to late to start or am I.


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    #427
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    If you're ready for a 15-miler, you're okay to start marathon training. Have a look over the thread, we're using a Hal Higdon novice plan


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    #428
    red face dave
    Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭red face dave


    Thanks Raycun think I will jump into Week 4 in two weeks time. Do you think if I was to follow this plan would I get anywhere near under 4 hours. You would think I be happy with just finishing it:). Sorry for all the questions


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    #429
    ger664
    Registered Users Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭ger664


    red face dave wrote: »
    Thanks Raycun think I will jump into Week 4 in two weeks time. Do you think if I was to follow this plan would I get anywhere near under 4 hours. You would think I be happy with just finishing it:). Sorry for all the questions

    Your 15 mile time will give a very good indication, but primary aim is to enjoy and finish your first one with a smile on your face.


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    #430
    red face dave
    Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭red face dave


    That's what I was thinking today also. But one of my friends was talking about times and I was thinking if he can so can I but I think I will just be happy to finish it with a smile.


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    #431
    Nules10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Nules10


    red face dave wrote: »
    That's what I was thinking today also. But one of my friends was talking about times and I was thinking if he can so can I but I think I will just be happy to finish it with a smile.

    its hard not to get wrapped up in times when everyone around you is talking about it. I am the same but i remind myself that to get to the start line and to finish it is a huge achievement...... but then i still think hmmmm wonder should i aim for a time.... like 4.30 :) Good luck with it red face dave.... any sign of that log starting yet :D


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    #432
    red face dave
    Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭red face dave


    Nules I cant bring myself to do a log don't think its for me but I do enjoy reading yours but someday I will start one I swear.:P

    I will start training just hoping to finish but like you will have a time in the back of mind who would have thought a year ago that I would be training for my 1st marathon. Really I am only doing it because I have a free entry from a competition I entered and only came second so this a runner up prize, some prize this is 26.2 miles of pain


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    #433
    Nules10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Nules10


    red face dave wrote: »
    Really I am only doing it because I have a free entry from a competition I entered and only came second so this a runner up prize, some prize this is 26.2 miles of pain

    Dear god what was first prize.... entry for an Ultra marathon :D
    At least log your progress here so we can keep an eye on you ;)


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    #434
    red face dave
    Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭red face dave


    U prob know the comp it was run by a well known chain store. Wont say the name don't think its allowed. Got free gear and also entered into race series. Will defo log in here find this much easier.


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    #435
    Nules10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Nules10


    I am doing a 5 mile pace run in the morning what does this mean ???


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    #436
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Nules10 wrote: »
    I am doing a 5 mile pace run in the morning what does this mean ???

    In a Higdon plan, that would be Planned Marathon Pace - about 10 minute miles if you're thinking of of 4.30 finish, 9 minute miles for 4 hours, and so on.


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    #437
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    This week's group LSR will be as follows:

    Location: Phoenix Park
    Time: Saturday 9th July
    Meet: Papal Cross 9am
    Session: LSR 9:15 - 9:30 pace

    Confirmed:

    Pistol_75 12 miles
    Mr Slow 12 miles

    Don't be put off by the pace, we can have two pace groups if necessary.

    Here is the link to add your name to the list


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    #438
    tHE vAGGABOND
    Registered Users Posts: 6,686 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    There is a run on Saturday and Sunday - and I have put both on there now


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    #439
    RiderOnTheStorm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RiderOnTheStorm


    hi all .... I have decided to do the DCM this year, as time is passing and I want to have one marathon under my belt before its too late! (hope that doesnt sound too morbid)

    I am 43, and been running (jogging!) for a few years on and off. I did a few triathlons in 2008 & 2009 but not much since. Best time 5k about 26 mins , and 10k 56 mins. I am following the HH Novice 2 plan. I had to repeat the first week twice (as I could not do 8 miles in one attempt), so although I am on week 4 of the plan, I am actually in my 6th week..... if ya get me.

    I just heard of this thread from a work collegue, so I am delighted to find so many like-minded boardsies here !

    Whats this log thing? (I saw a table a few pages back) Should I re-post it at the end of the week with my milage?


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    #440
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »
    I had to repeat the first week twice (as I could not do 8 miles in one attempt), so although I am on week 4 of the plan, I am actually in my 6th week..... if ya get me.

    Try slowing down some more on those long runs. You might feel that you're going too slow, but better to go slow and finish the distance than faster and have to stop.
    RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »
    Whats this log thing? (I saw a table a few pages back) Should I re-post it at the end of the week with my milage?

    You can add your last week's runs to the table now if you like.


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    #441
    RiderOnTheStorm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RiderOnTheStorm


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles/km This Week|Comments
    RayCun|4|31.3km|two club sessions, two recovery runs|
    meijin|4|28.5km||
    Vagga|3|24 Miles|Being careful with an injury limited me to 3 runs|
    shels4ever|6|54|Mostly easy runs, 1 long run and one steady run|
    Bally8|4|20.85 miles|This is my second week of Novice 2. Got an easy run, a PMP, a easy run with strides and a 9 mile lsr in. Out on the kayaks twce this week too. Happy days!|
    Nules10|4|21.52 miles|On week 5|
    Duckee|4|24.4km|week 1 down. 1 long run, 3 easy. Trying to learn how to run slow on mid-week runs|
    liamog|3|27.64km|Week 1 finished, a 5km BHAA Race and then two more runs to round it off|
    Concerned2|5|27.17 miles|Missed 1 planned session, legs currently have loads of aches|
    cr17|5|24 miles| |
    Rider|4|17m|This is the 3rd wk of HH plan so quite easy. Didnt do a XT this week|


    thx Ray. I do about a 9 min mile . I thought that was slow. Hoping to do DSM in 4 hours.

    I had some trouble with my cotton T's on the long runs (they cling, and cause chaffing), and a quick search of Boards told me to try UnderArmour. So I got a couple in TK Max and it seems to have helped.


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    #442
    elvis jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,197 ✭✭✭elvis jones


    RayCun wrote: »
    If you're ready for a 15-miler, you're okay to start marathon training. Have a look over the thread, we're using a Hal Higdon novice plan

    I did my 2nd half on sunday and can't focus on the marathon until Aug 13th but i will be training hard for an olympic tri until then. I'll also be at about a 15 miler so is it possible.

    I have a probs with the auld ankles so will be doing some cycling and swimming instead of runs but will get out 3 times a week.


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    #443
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »
    thx Ray. I do about a 9 min mile . I thought that was slow. Hoping to do DSM in 4 hours.

    I had some trouble with my cotton T's on the long runs (they cling, and cause chaffing), and a quick search of Boards told me to try UnderArmour. So I got a couple in TK Max and it seems to have helped.

    A 9 minute mile is your planned marathon pace, if you want to finish under 4 hours. In the HH Novice 2 plan, most weeks will have a run at pace, which should be 9 minutes miles, but everything else should be slower, more like 10 minute miles.

    Cotton is bad for chafing, but any kind of technical fabric will be better - Nike Dri-fit, Mizuno Drylite, that kind of thing.


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    #444
    corked
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭corked


    Good luck folks - did DCM last yr and popped in and out of the boards thread.

    It looks fantastic this year with the lotto behind it.

    I'm sitting it out as did Cork last mth and dont want to cripple myself!

    Enjoy the training!


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    #445
    househunter
    Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭househunter


    RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »
    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles/km This Week|Comments
    RayCun|4|31.3km|two club sessions, two recovery runs|
    meijin|4|28.5km||
    Vagga|3|24 Miles|Being careful with an injury limited me to 3 runs|
    shels4ever|6|54|Mostly easy runs, 1 long run and one steady run|
    Bally8|4|20.85 miles|This is my second week of Novice 2. Got an easy run, a PMP, a easy run with strides and a 9 mile lsr in. Out on the kayaks twce this week too. Happy days!|
    Nules10|4|21.52 miles|On week 5|
    Duckee|4|24.4km|week 1 down. 1 long run, 3 easy. Trying to learn how to run slow on mid-week runs|
    liamog|3|27.64km|Week 1 finished, a 5km BHAA Race and then two more runs to round it off|
    Concerned2|5|27.17 miles|Missed 1 planned session, legs currently have loads of aches|
    cr17|5|24 miles| |
    Rider|4|17m|This is the 3rd wk of HH plan so quite easy. Didnt do a XT this week|
    Househunter|4|35m|First week of P&D, 1 long, 2 slow, 1 tempo|


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    #446
    Bally8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭Bally8


    Just a suggestion- feel free to ignore me but Im wondering if we could stick to either miles or kms on the table? I dont mind which one but think it would be easier to read if we all had the same units of measurement for the table


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    #447
    Mr abbey
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭Mr abbey


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles/km This Week|Comments
    RayCun|4|31.3km|two club sessions, two recovery runs|
    meijin|4|28.5km||
    Vagga|3|24 Miles|Being careful with an injury limited me to 3 runs|
    shels4ever|6|54|Mostly easy runs, 1 long run and one steady run|
    Bally8|4|20.85 miles|This is my second week of Novice 2. Got an easy run, a PMP, a easy run with strides and a 9 mile lsr in. Out on the kayaks twce this week too. Happy days!|
    Nules10|4|21.52 miles|On week 5|
    Duckee|4|24.4km|week 1 down. 1 long run, 3 easy. Trying to learn how to run slow on mid-week runs|
    liamog|3|27.64km|Week 1 finished, a 5km BHAA Race and then two more runs to round it off|
    Concerned2|5|27.17 miles|Missed 1 planned session, legs currently have loads of aches|
    cr17|5|24 miles| |
    Rider|4|17m|This is the 3rd wk of HH plan so quite easy. Didnt do a XT this week|
    Househunter|4|35m|First week of P&D, 1 long, 2 slow, 1 tempo|
    Mr Abbey|4|15 miles|Week 1 HH Novice 1. Nice & Easy No problems|
    [/QUOTE]

    Hi guys, have been keeping an eye on here but first post. Doing HH Novice 1. First marathon, couple of 10ks last year, average 52 mins. Did week 1 no problems. Everyone in table seems to be way ahead in mileage already, what plans are most people here following. Thanks


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    #448
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Mr abbey wrote: »
    Doing HH Novice 1. First marathon, couple of 10ks last year, average 52 mins. Did week 1 no problems. Everyone in table seems to be way ahead in mileage already, what plans are most people here following. Thanks

    Some people are on the same plan but started earlier, so they're doing longer runs.


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    #449
    tHE vAGGABOND
    Registered Users Posts: 6,686 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    Some people are on the same plan but started earlier, so they're doing longer runs.
    Others, like me, have changed things around a bit, due to missing weeks and weekends later on. So are running more now.

    The training plans are a guide, your own life circumstances may need you to change things, so as long as you roughly stick to the spirit of the plan your fine to change details :)


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    #450
    PDCAT
    Registered Users Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭PDCAT


    Week 1 - 4 runs Total mileage 17.65 miles.

    Looking at everyone elses, seems a bit short but that's what the plan says.


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    #451
    BobMac104
    Registered Users Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BobMac104


    hey guys

    I am new to these boards, I am looking to do dublin this year (my first) and will probably go with HAl higdon novice2 plan. but with 16 weeks to go where should i start from do you reckon?.

    a bit of backround...

    I only recently took up running again (3/4 months? ) I run around 20mpw on average , I do a 10k in 52 mins ( i know there is a sub 50 there for me soon!). My longest recent run was 16 miles which i couldnt walk up or down the stairs after for a couple of days and i am in my mid 20's.

    anyway , basically my (lofty?) goal would be to (finish ..) do a sub 4 hour is this do-able for me ?
    any advice is much apreciated (sorry if this is in the wrong place)
    thanks in advance


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