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WikiLeaks & Sinn Fein

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    #782
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Lonesome Boatman wrote: »
    He will be in Afghanistan killing people for oil on behalf of the British government.

    He can't even accept he lives in Ireland (which is an island) and doesn't even accept northern Ireland is part of the island of Ireland. We don't need to persuade people who say things like 'so called united Ireland' he can't even accept Ireland is an island made up by 2 states. When these irrefutable facts are ignored its clear its a waste of time even talking to them.

    Frankly people like him have had it their own way for far to long, to the detriment of the Irish people as a whole and the nationalists in the North. If he can't accept that he shares an island with us why should be bend over backwards to persuade him? His ignorance on southern life and irrational fear of a united Ireland is laughable.

    Even when the Irish people vote for a united Ireland there is talk of 'loyalist resistance' anti democratic nonsense from them. Ive no interest in 'persuading' these people, its a waste of time. Just let nature run its course and the people will vote for re unification without needing to persuade.
    Look at the history of the island and there has always been violence. It would be no different if a United Ireland happened. Would just be a new campaign.


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    #783
    Lonesome Boatman
    Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭Lonesome Boatman


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Look at the history of the island and there has always been violence. It would be no different if a United Ireland happened. Would just be a new campaign.

    The campaign would have no legitimacy, there would be no viable political objectives. Disregarding a democratic vote in that manner would be fascism.

    Go back to killing innocent catholics because Britain can't wait to wash its hands of you and the people of the 6 counties voted for a united Ireland? :rolleyes:

    Would you support such a campaign?


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    #784
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Lonesome Boatman wrote: »
    The campaign would have no legitimacy, there would be no viable political objectives. Disregarding a democratic vote in that manner would be fascism.

    Go back to killing innocent catholics because Britain can't wait to wash its hands of you and the people of the 6 counties voted for a united Ireland? :rolleyes:

    Would you support such a campaign?
    Nope. But i know the kind of people who would get involved and resist Dublin rule.


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    #785
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Nope. But i know the kind of people who would get involved and resist Dublin rule.
    Terrific, so you will accept a UI then.


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    #786
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Terrific, so you will accept a UI then.
    Iv always said i would only resist in an armed way if the IRA killed a family member. As much as i would not want to, i think it would turn me completely from peace.

    But yeah, i will accept the majority.


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    #787
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Iv always said i would only resist in an armed way if the IRA killed a family member. As much as i would not want to, i think it would turn me completely from peace.

    But yeah, i will accept the majority.
    Well the IRA is gone


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    #788
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Well the IRA is gone
    You say that, still got nutters running about calling themselves the RIRA. And include the plastic UVF in that.


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    #789
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    You say that, still got nutters running about calling themselves the RIRA. And include the plastic UVF in that.
    So if oglaigh na heireann, the dissident lads, killed a family member you would take up arms and fight against the democratic will of the people?


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    #790
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    So if oglaigh na heireann, the dissident lads, killed a family member you would take up arms and fight against the democratic will of the people?
    No. In a UI. I have no doubt groups like that will still exist if a UI ever did happen.


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    #791
    junder
    Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    danbohan wrote: »
    nonsense , it will be just as welcome as nationalists in northern ireland were from 1922-1969 , surely you will be happy with that ?

    So it's revenge you seek in this do called united Ireland then?


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    #792
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Then in what possible scenario would you resist? Only if a non existent force killed a family member?

    Bravado to live up to the NO SURRENDER sh!te you blather


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    #793
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Then in what possible scenario would you resist? Only if a non existent force killed a family member?

    Bravado to live up to the NO SURRENDER sh!te you blather
    Ah, don't worry yourself. ;)


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    #794
    maxxie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 949 ✭✭✭maxxie


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Nope. But i know the kind of people who would get involved and resist Dublin rule.

    No sweat keith, we will bring back hanging in Ireland.


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    #795
    junder
    Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    maxxie wrote: »
    No sweat keith, we will bring back hanging in Ireland.

    Judging by the attitude of more then a few people on this thread I wouldn't be surprised if you brought back gas chambers if you ever got your so called united ireland.


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    #796
    maxxie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 949 ✭✭✭maxxie


    junder wrote: »
    Judging by the attitude of more then a few people on this thread I wouldn't be surprised if you brought back gas chambers if you ever got your so called united ireland.

    Im not paying that gas bill!

    Theres plenty of rope to go around, so behave yourself junder!


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    #797
    OhNoYouDidn't
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    junder wrote: »
    Judging by the attitude of more then a few people on this thread I wouldn't be surprised if you brought back gas chambers if you ever got your so called united ireland.

    Brought BACK gas chambers?

    More inane ****e.


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    #798
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    junder wrote: »
    Judging by the attitude of more then a few people on this thread I wouldn't be surprised if you brought back gas chambers if you ever got your so called united ireland.

    When did we ever have gas chambers in Ireland? Do they replace Nazis with Irish people in your history books or something? No wonder you're so fearful of us.

    The truth is junder - Unionists would be treated perfectly fine in a UI. Any rhetoric you see on this forum is reactionary banter from some posters, who are probably tired of your illogical and asinine suggestions and assumptions.


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    #799
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    junder wrote: »
    Judging by the attitude of more then a few people on this thread I wouldn't be surprised if you brought back gas chambers if you ever got your so called united ireland.
    We'll fight and don't surrender
    But come when duty calls
    With heart and hand and sword and shield! :D


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    #800
    mgmt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭mgmt


    dlofnep wrote: »
    The truth is junder - Unionists would be treated perfectly fine in a UI. Any rhetoric you see on this forum is reactionary banter from some posters, who are probably tired of your illogical and asinine suggestions and assumptions.

    Yes, they'll have to pay the same high taxes as the rest of us.


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    #801
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    mgmt wrote: »
    Yes, they'll have to pay the same high taxes as the rest of us.

    no , you forgot about the land repatriation taxes , they will be paying 2x everybody else !!


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    #802
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    We'll fight and don't surrender
    But come when duty calls
    With heart and hand and sword and shield! :D

    nice that the spirt of christmas has touched you so deeply keith !


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    #803
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    I love christmas :D lol.


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    #804
    mgmt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭mgmt


    Fianna Fail, the republican party, ended the United Ireland dream. Just forget it.


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    #805
    junder
    Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    dlofnep wrote: »
    When did we ever have gas chambers in Ireland? Do they replace Nazis with Irish people in your history books or something? No wonder you're so fearful of us.

    The truth is junder - Unionists would be treated perfectly fine in a UI. Any rhetoric you see on this forum is reactionary banter from some posters, who are probably tired of your illogical and asinine suggestions and assumptions.

    Illogical, How exactly?


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    #806
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    junder wrote: »
    Illogical, How exactly?

    I believe I already explained that.


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    #807
    OhNoYouDidn't
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    mgmt wrote: »
    Yes, they'll have to pay the same high taxes as the rest of us.

    This despite the fact that taxes are lower in the south than the 6?


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    #808
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »
    This despite the fact that taxes are lower in the south than the 6?
    I'd pay their taxes for their health service in a heartbeat.


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    #809
    Lonesome Boatman
    Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭Lonesome Boatman


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    We'll fight and don't surrender
    But come when duty calls
    With heart and hand and sword and shield! :D

    You claim to be majority
    Well you know that it's a lie
    You're really a minority
    On this sweet emerald isle

    You like being the dominant majority so you can bask in triumphalism and antagonise your nationalist neighbours.

    But the times they are a changin.... :pac:


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    #810
    BlaasForRafa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    Lonesome Boatman wrote: »
    He will be in Afghanistan killing people for oil on behalf of the British government.

    How big are the reserves of oil in afghanistan hmm?


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    #811
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Lonesome Boatman wrote: »
    You claim to be majority
    Yes.
    Lonesome Boatman wrote: »
    Well you know that it's a lie
    No it isn't.
    Lonesome Boatman wrote: »
    You're really a minority
    On this sweet emerald isle
    Not yet. And what makes you think even when catholics are a majority they will vote for a united Ireland?
    Lonesome Boatman wrote: »
    You like being the dominant majority so you can bask in triumphalism and antagonise your nationalist neighbours.
    Maybe their nationalist neighbours should just grow up and stop being antagonised about a war they lost many hundreds of years ago?


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