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iSpy has done it again! Let's compare the Roma to parasites ...

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  • 20-09-2010 4:12pm
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    KidKeith89
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    Apparently Ian O'Doherty sees nothing wrong with Sarkozy's expulsion of the Roma people, as he said: "France repatriates unproductive, unemployed and parasitic people to their own country." That's all he did.

    Now, I know a lot of people aren't too fond of the Roma people - I myself don't love 'em or hate 'em - but ya think this quote is a bit much for a column section in one of our national broadsheets? I find myself hating this fat gobsh!te more and more as I read his articles (although they are entertaining, sometimes!).


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    Sykk
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    He's dead right..
















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    Wolfe Tone
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    Just to get this out of the way early, Roma is not the same as Romanian.


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    SV
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    He's completely right for fúcks sake.

    Time to call a spade a spade.


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    flyton5
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    Undoubtedly someone will mention dole scoungers...in before that happens...


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    Morlar
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    http://www.answers.com/topic/parasite

    1. Biology. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
    2.
    1. One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.
    2. One who lives off and flatters the rich; a sycophant.
    3. A professional dinner guest, especially in ancient Greece.


    noun

    One who depends on another for support without reciprocating: bloodsucker, hanger-on, leech, sponge. Slang freeloader. See dependence/independence.


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    orourkeda
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    Sykk wrote: »
    He's dead right..
















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    Of course he is. I blame the romanians


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    Duck's hoop
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    I read it whenever I'm in the 'home place' as my ma reads it.

    Ian O'Doherty would appear to be Kevin Myers lite. Minus the classics references and verbiage.

    He's a controversialist. And an apologist for quasi-totalitarian regimes such as Israel.


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    pickarooney
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Just to get this out of the way early, Roma is not the same as Romanian.

    Should of putt that in the other thread on misused words


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    PeterIanStaker
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    Morlar wrote: »
    http://www.answers.com/topic/parasite

    1. Biology. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
    2.
    1. One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.
    2. One who lives off and flatters the rich; a sycophant.
    3. A professional dinner guest, especially in ancient Greece.


    noun

    One who depends on another for support without reciprocating: bloodsucker, hanger-on, leech, sponge. Slang freeloader. See dependence/independence.


    Funny, I looked up "Irish Independent columnist" and got the same definition.

    Wherever the Roma are sent, can they bring O'Doherty, His Holiness Quinn & Myarse with them?


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    thebigbiffo
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    i like the fat bastard, truth be told


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    orourkeda
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Just to get this out of the way early, Roma is not the same as Romanian.

    If a roma comes from Romania does that make then Romanian.


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    Viper_JB
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    I dunno....the Roma maybe getting singled out here as a group...but if you're an illegal immigrant surely you can't complain when you're kicked out of the country just enforcing the law really. I'm slightly biased as I hold no love for Roma gypsies....I doubt that many people do.


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    orourkeda
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    Morlar wrote: »
    http://www.answers.com/topic/parasite

    1. Biology. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
    2.
    1. One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.
    2. One who lives off and flatters the rich; a sycophant.
    3. A professional dinner guest, especially in ancient Greece.


    noun

    One who depends on another for support without reciprocating: bloodsucker, hanger-on, leech, sponge. Slang freeloader. See dependence/independence.

    Pretty accurate assessment.


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    KidKeith89
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    I know they're unproductive and unemployed but he probably wouldn't say that about one certain nationality who are known to not work and claim social welfare. Or would he? Maybe he would actually ...

    I just think the term "parasitic" is a bit much; it's like he's trying to say these people are like a bug or something on. Wouldn't say I'm sympathetic towards these people but I do kinda feel sorry for the kids who grow up in that environment. And before anyone comments: no, I'm not a do-gooder hippy. :rolleyes:


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    meditraitor
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    What have the romanians ever done for us?


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    curlzy
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    I was at a Romanian restaurant (amazing food btw) and the owner was romanian, I was outside having a smoke with him and Roma people came up, the man was spitting when he spoke of them. He said how would the Irish feel if the world thought all Irish were the same as Irish travellers, I could see his point.:(


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    KidKeith89
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    Viper_JB wrote: »
    I dunno....the Roma maybe getting singled out here as a group...but if you're an illegal immigrant surely you can't complain when you're kicked out of the country just enforcing the law really. I'm slightly biased as I hold no love for Roma gypsies....I doubt that many people do.

    They're not in France illegally as Romania and Bulgaria are members of the EU - free movement of people, capital and goods. So really it was illegal for him to kick them out.


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    Wolfe Tone
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    Basically Roma are like our travelers except about 5 times as bad.


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    Sheeps
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    KidKeith89 wrote: »
    They're not in France illegally as Romania and Bulgaria are members of the EU - free movement of people, capital and goods. So really it was illegal for him to kick them out.

    shut up


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    scientific1982
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    Im normally very liberal but Roma just take the piss. IOD is still a twat though.


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    KidKeith89
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    Sheeps wrote: »
    shut up

    Why is that now?


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    KidKeith89
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    scientific1982 wrote: »
    Im normally very liberal but Roma just take the piss. IOD is still a twat though.

    Agree.


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    Conor OH!
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    He's exactly right, and pretty much on point with most things he says in his column.

    do we not WANT opinion in our newspapers???? surely the whole point of reading news is to be able to understand things from many points of view, and not just slate it when you disagree?

    it's not racist, and it's not hateful towards them at all.

    he's merely proving a point with a bit of colourful language.


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    enda1
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    KidKeith89 wrote: »
    They're not in France illegally as Romania and Bulgaria are members of the EU - free movement of people, capital and goods. So really it was illegal for him to kick them out.

    Wrong there Ted.

    http://www.euractiv.com/en/socialeurope/free-movement-labour-eu-27/article-129648#
    1 Jan. 2014: All labour restrictions to be lifted within the EU 27.

    Until 2014, there is not free movement for the 2 newest states.


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    Sheeps
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    I will make sure to take your opinions in to consideration next time I'm stepping over the roma begging for change on the inner city streets of Dublin.


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    Biggins
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Just to get this out of the way early, Roma is not the same as Romanian.
    I'm tired of explaining that to people but the message isn't sinking in with some or they are conveniently ignoring it.


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    Nodin
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    Duck's hoop wrote: »
    I read it whenever I'm in the 'home place' as my ma reads it.

    Ian O'Doherty would appear to be Kevin Myers lite. Minus the classics references and verbiage.

    He's a controversialist. And an apologist for quasi-totalitarian regimes such as Israel.

    Yep.


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    KidKeith89
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    Biggins wrote: »
    I'm tired of explaining that to people but the message isn't sinking in with some or they are conveniently ignoring it.

    Yeah they're not necessarily Romanian, but I've heard a large number of them have lived in Romania and Bulgaria for several generations? I could be wrong there.


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    Biggins
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    KidKeith89 wrote: »
    Yeah they're not necessarily Romanian, but I've heard a large number of them have lived in Romania and Bulgaria for several generations? I could be wrong there.
    Case in point! :o
    Some still don't get it!

    Let me A.B.C. it for you.

    Roma = Cultural and ethnic traditional classification across borders.
    Romanians = A group of people defined by an actual land border.


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    thebigbiffo
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    Conor OH! wrote: »
    it's not racist, and it's not hateful towards them at all.

    you see, this is the weird thing when talking about this kinda stuff (and I mean absolutely no offence conor)..

    but have you met a roma that you have liked, respected or you felt wouldnt rob/beg from you? i haven't...and the sad thing about society is this makes me a racist. is it my fault that the 'race' has a tendency to lean toward the criminal?


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