The Big Freeze ( Monday 11th January )

AfterDusk · 11-01-2010 7:26pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

By the way Cork Airport was shut until 2pm today yet it didn't even get a mention on the rte news (I mean the dublin news)

Yes it did. :rolleyes: They were reporting on Cork Airport for about 5 mins

GavinH · 11-01-2010 7:26pm

MB1380 wrote: »

Heres a few pics from macroom this morning. Headed to work in cork then where the sun was shining all day. Back home and there is a thick fog which hasent lifted all day.
[IMG]http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm475/MNCchop/DSCF0222 copy.jpg[/IMG]

excellent shots, of some very familiar spots.

WolfeIRE · 11-01-2010 7:28pm

jaffa20 wrote: »

Morelike, Risque de pluie

ou risque du frustration

By the way, the GFS indicates that Galway/Mayo (inland) are most likely to see snowfall for the longest period tomorrow.

Either way wherever snow falls tomorrow, in the main it will be shortlived and replaced by sleet/rain. The issue really is the flood risk: the impact of heavy rain falling on frozen surfaces in south, and heavy rain coupled with a thaw in areas that have experienced heavy snow in recent days. Driving conditions may very well be precarious tomorrow morning in the south and people need to be prepared for localised flooding and/or black ice.

MB1380 · 11-01-2010 7:30pm

GavinH wrote: »

excellent shots, of some very familiar spots.

Thanks, conditions werent the best with the fog. heres one of the square.

Snowaddict · 11-01-2010 7:31pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

Ok, here's my forecast for tomorrow.
Carlow, Portlaoise, Kildare will all have lying snow for at least an hour tomorrow.
Dublin will see at least falling snow for an hour, though it pbly wont lie.

And yes SA Cork will see rain and likely floods, though I would add at least another day before the flooding risk as ground frozen a foot down wont thaw that quickly. Wednesday will be the flood day after the rain has passed

What you must consider JS is that rainfall will not be able to soak downwards into the soil tomorrow because it is so frozen. Therefore, with percolation not very possible, ponding and surface water pooling will be more significant than usual, with flooding occuring more easily & rapidly than usual because of this.

WolfeIRE · 11-01-2010 7:32pm

11 January 2010 16:59

Today Any remaining showers will die out this evening with clear spells following.
Tonight

Temperatures will fall to between +2 and -2 degrees early tonight with frost and icy patches inland. Any frost will be gone by morning as wet and windy weather extends from the southwest.

Tomorrow

Heavy rain tomorrow over Munster and south Leinster with some local flooding and winds gusting to 100 km/h. Highest temperatures here 5 to 8 degrees. Cold, cloudy and windy elsewhere tomorrow with scattered outbreaks of rain, sleet and snow and highest temperatures only 1 to 4 degrees.

francie BradyII · 11-01-2010 7:33pm

Is there any truth that Trent killed the snow?

JanuarySnowstor · 11-01-2010 7:35pm

Snowaddict wrote: »

What you must consider JS is that rainfall will not be able to soak downwards into the soil tomorrow because it is so frozen. Therefore, with percolation not very possible, ponding and surface water pooling will be more significant than usual, with flooding occuring more easily & rapidly than usual because of this.

True, that's a good point

DOCARCH · 11-01-2010 7:46pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

By the way Cork Airport was shut until 2pm today yet it didn't even get a mention on the rte news (I mean the dublin news)

You're mad! They had the chief exec of Cork Airport on the news and talked about it (Cork Airport) for a few minutes. What more do you want?

Your problem isn't altitude there, it's attitude.

JanuarySnowstor · 11-01-2010 7:47pm

DOCARCH wrote: »

You're mad! They had the chief exec of Cork Airport on the news and talked about it (Cork Airport) for a few minutes. What more do you want?

Your problem isn't altitude there, it's attitude.

I see must have missed it so, sorry

WolfeIRE · 11-01-2010 7:47pm

Temperature didn;t rise above freezing today. However, there was a slight thaw but nothing significant

It was overcast all day.

I doubt that there was anywhere below 300 metres today that did not see a thaw. Thankfully it is a slow thaw so far as this diminishes the risk of flooding. The worrying thing is that 45-55mm forecast for tomorrow will lead to serious localised flooding in places, irrespective of a thaw.

Our man in Havana · 11-01-2010 7:57pm

Graphics fail there with Gerry Murphy.

Sounds like the apocalypse is coming for the south and south east.

WolfeIRE · 11-01-2010 7:58pm

Poor Gerry. I have done some graphics up from him for the nine o'clock weather just in case their commodore 64 computer system is still broken.

GavinH · 11-01-2010 8:00pm

MB1380 wrote: »

Thanks, conditions werent the best with the fog. heres one of the square.

Yes had recognised it too. Don't know why it didn't show in my reply.

Bishop_Donal · 11-01-2010 8:04pm

Bond-007 wrote: »

Graphics fail there with Gerry Murphy.

Sounds like the apocalypse is coming for the south and south east.

Met Eireann would be more reliable if they had no graphics, weather stations, sats, and staff on an ongoing basis.

Murphy (the donkey) and his severe flooding. We'll see.

WolfeIRE · 11-01-2010 8:06pm

Bishop_Donal wrote: »

Met Eireann would be more reliable if they had no graphics, weather stations, sats, and staff on an ongoing basis.

Murphy (the donkey) and his severe flooding. We'll see.

the poor fellow. he did very well to carry that off. I would guess the graphics went just seconds before he went live. He was very professional. Fair play to him.

Min · 11-01-2010 8:07pm

Seems a lot of things are breaking at the moment, the cold weather, the Shannon radar constantly and now the Met Eireann TV graphics.

Bishop_Donal · 11-01-2010 8:10pm

WolfeIRE wrote: »

the poor fellow. he did very well to carry that off. I would guess the graphics went just seconds before he went live. He was very professional. Fair play to him.

I just still havn't got over yesterday. From a Dublin perspective if we hadn't got the Saturday night snow (which ME hadn't spotted), and then suffered yesterdays disaster, it would have been too much!

You can't build up hops like they did.

Bishop_Donal · 11-01-2010 8:11pm

Bishop_Donal wrote: »

I just still havn't got over yesterday. From a Dublin perspective if we hadn't got the Saturday night snow (which ME hadn't spotted), and then suffered yesterdays disaster, it would have been too much!

You can't build up hops like they did.

oops hopes.

WolfeIRE · 11-01-2010 8:12pm

Bishop_Donal wrote: »

You can't build up hops like they did.

they are not in the business of building up one's hopes. I think you are confusing them with the Samaritans.

But you are right about them getting things somewhat wrong for the east coast.

snow ghost · 11-01-2010 8:13pm

Looks like there has been a Big thaw in the Wicklow mountains, I just saw it on Nationwide... something about Wicklow emigrants who had returned to live on islands in the Mountains... some Dublin guy was looking after them.

Anyone down that way know how they are getting on with the cold snap?

Bishop_Donal · 11-01-2010 8:15pm

WolfeIRE wrote: »

they are not in the business of building up one's hopes. I think you are confusing them with the Samaritans.

But you are right about them getting things somewhat wrong for the east coast.

It's all about the perception of the recipient of the forecast in my view:)

11-01-2010 8:17pm

snow ghost wrote: »

Looks like there has been a Big thaw in the Wicklow mountains, I just saw it on Nationwide... something about Wicklow emigrants who had returned to live on islands in the Mountains... some Dublin guy was looking after them.

Anyone down that way know how they are getting on with the cold snap?

Ask supercell about the thaw up there

There was a slight thaw on croghan mtn today alright I'm told but it's still several feet deep up there.

snow ghost · 11-01-2010 8:24pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Ask supercell about the thaw up there
There was a slight thaw on croghan mtn today alright I'm told but it's still several feet deep up there.

Does supercell live on one of those islands Black Briar?

JanuarySnowstor · 11-01-2010 9:24pm

The back roads are lethal in cork tonight - loads reporting on local radio station.
Frozen solid here aswell on foot, ther could well be a period of freezing rain in the morning

mad DIY · 11-01-2010 9:27pm

Well the thaw in south Meath has ended abruptly and the cold spell is back with a vengence. Little did I expect to come out of the office at 7pm to find all the remaining deep slush frozen solid and to have to hack away at ice on the car. The N3 is covered in black ice, it's the worst I've seen this winter, and Lucan village is so bad it's difficult to get traction to get moving. I dont know where all that cold air came from all of a sudden. In contrast here in Terenure it 1.3 degrees, the roads appear to be fine, and everyone is saying to me 'Ice, what ice? Haven't you noticed the thaw, are you going mad..'

I fancy there could be a bit of snow in Meath when the storm from the south meets this sudden balst of cold air

JanuarySnowstor · 11-01-2010 9:34pm

BB, SA any thoughts on when your thaw is coming?
NRA.ie is showing vast majority of roads freezing hard.
2 serious crashes on previously gritted main roads here tonight, one near Mallow & one near Watergrasshill

mad DIY · 11-01-2010 9:39pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

BB, SA any thoughts on when your thaw is coming?
NRA.ie is showing vast majority of roads freezing hard.
2 serious crashes on previously gritted main roads here tonight, one near Mallow & one near Watergrasshill

Most of the roads I drove on this evening had grit on them, but it didn't seem to be making a damn of a difference, they were all skating rinks, until I got to the N4 and M50 which where grand (but I think that was because I'd crossed the boundary between the cold and warm air). Maybe they are using the wrong type of grit (or just spreading gravel, it looked very coarse, even pebbly)

JanuarySnowstor · 11-01-2010 9:42pm

mad DIY wrote: »

Most of the roads I drove on this evening had grit on them, but it didn't seem to be making a damn of a difference, they were all skating rinks, until I got to the N4 and M50 which where grand (but I think that was because I'd crossed the boundary between the cold and warm air). Maybe they are using the wrong type of grit (or just spreading gravel, it looked very coarse, even pebbly)

I think it's just that Dublin has milder air over it than a lot of the country
I mean there's a southerly force 5 wind here and i just heard the roads around cobh are like glass, and cobh is as coastal as you can get
Ground frozen a foot down will take alot of thawing

munsterlegend · 11-01-2010 9:46pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

BB, SA any thoughts on when your thaw is coming?
NRA.ie is showing vast majority of roads freezing hard.
2 serious crashes on previously gritted main roads here tonight, one near Mallow & one near Watergrasshill

how serious was the crash in mallow and where? is it rathduff you mean?

The Big Freeze ( Monday 11th January )

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